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Topic: New to microstock and wondering where I should start, or if I should even try.  

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Rensik

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« on: December 12, 2010, 18:13 »

Hello. I'm new to microstock and am interested in 'dabbling' in it, try it out to see what I can do with it. Problem is, yes I can do photography, but my biggest thrill is experimenting with images and designs in GIMP/Photoshop. A few examples can be seen here: http://rensiknosaj.deviantart.com/gallery

The ones I wish to point out are the ones labeled BT with a number.

First off, would those(and similar) be worth trying as microstock? Second, I'm wondering which company to try to start with. Earlier posts suggest Dreamstime, but I'm all too unfamiliar...


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Perry



« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 18:51 »

Sorry, but I don't think these have potential.


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aeonf

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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 19:15 »

Sorry, but I don't think these have potential.

I disagree. I do think they have potential. why not try and upload a few dozens as an experiment ?


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madelaide
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2010, 19:24 »

I don't know if they have potential, but I don't believe they are in high demand anyway.  Some may be used as backgrounds.  However, to be approved in any site you must show more variety. 


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donding



« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2010, 19:32 »

I don't know if they have potential, but I don't believe they are in high demand anyway.  Some may be used as backgrounds.  However, to be approved in any site you must show more variety. 

I agree with madelaide....I don't know rather they would sell or not, but most of the stock sites need a variety for the initial inspections...such as a isolation, people shot or landscape ect. They usually won't approve the application unless you can show variety of styles.


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stockmarketer


« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2010, 20:33 »

These seem almost like fractals, which I believe have a hard time getting approved by the major sites these days. 

But assuming they do get approved, think about the uphill battle they will face getting seen by potential buyers.  It's all about the keywords.  You'll probably be hard-pressed coming up with more than a dozen for each image (background, color (list the major ones), shape, abstract, geometric, etc.)  Now imagine how many images will come up in a search on those keywords.  I think it would be nearly impossible for a newcomer to find any success with this approach. 

But I don't like to discourage anyone, so here's some positive advice... instead of creating generic backgrounds that will fight against tens of thousands of other generic backgrounds that have already generated sales, try creating backgrounds around a specific theme, something that's niche and marketable.  Then you'll have deep and rich keywords that will get your images seen.  What do I mean by "creating backgrounds around a specific theme?"  I'm not even sure, but you'll need to do something different, something that addresses a specific need, if you want to generate sales.  I hope this helps.


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sjlocke

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2010, 20:40 »

Sorry, but I don't think these have potential.

Agreed, and speaking to iStock, they wouldn't even get you in the door.


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Blufish



« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2010, 01:22 »

I'm going with the minority here. I do think they have potential. To get your foot in the door, you do need to show a variety of styles. Theme-wise, think that is a good idea. Start with holiday type colors and cover the big ones, Christmas, hannnuka, Easter, valentines, red white blue etc.

Just my 2 cents. If you're going to start, I'd go with middle and low-tier first.


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nruboc

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2010, 01:33 »

I would go with only the best, and so far I think this is your best:

http://rensiknosaj.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2u3bkp

Good luck!


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helix7


« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2010, 11:10 »

If you're going to take the time to try and get involved in the microstock business, I think your time is best spent creating some images that have the potential to fill a need in the market. And frankly, these fractals don't fill any sort of need. Even among established artists who create these types of images, I have yet to see any convincing evidence that fractals are a worthwhile endeavor in microstock at all.

Some people have entered this business in the last year or so and done well. No doubt it's harder to enter into this business now than it was a few years back, but it's still possible. But you had better bring something interesting if you're going to stand out and actually generate any decent amount of sales. And fractals are just about the most unoriginal thing you can bring to the table.

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disorderly


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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2010, 11:22 »

I'll agree with the majority.  To succeed, your images have to be seen.  That means getting to the front or at least high up in a site's image search.  How is that going to happen for images that can't be described at all well?  If a site allowed clients to search by color scheme or pattern type (stripes vs. plaid or spirals or something), then maybe abstract backgrounds could do well, assuming clients have interest in such things.  But they (the sites) don't, and they (the clients) probably don't, so you won't.

I have a few fractals in my portfolio on a few sites.  Sold a few copies, but not enough to make me want to make more.


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Rensik

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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2010, 08:59 »

Alright, "fractals" aside (I do have 'themed' versions, btw), say I want to start in microstock but don't want to get into the 'photography' side of it yet, meaning I'd like to stick with 'illustrations' for the most part. Which site would be best to start out in? I'm looking at the mid-tier companies for now. Someplace I can learn.


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cuppacoffee



« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2010, 09:16 »

If a site allowed clients to search by color scheme or pattern type (stripes vs. plaid or spirals or something), then maybe abstract backgrounds could do well, assuming clients have interest in such things. But they (the sites) don't, and they (the clients) probably don't, so you won't.

Just a note - DT lets you search by primary and secondary color (and even percentage of color) if you go into their advanced search area.


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leaf
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2010, 04:32 »

Alright, "fractals" aside (I do have 'themed' versions, btw), say I want to start in microstock but don't want to get into the 'photography' side of it yet, meaning I'd like to stick with 'illustrations' for the most part. Which site would be best to start out in? I'm looking at the mid-tier companies for now. Someplace I can learn.

I don't quite understand why you would start out with a mid-tier company.  Start out with the best so you can be the best.  If you start out with the best sites you will be more encouraged by the sales you receive and get pickier reviews, pushing you to create better content.  Start with the top 3-4 sites.  Shutterstock, iStock, Dreamstime, and Fotolia


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Rensik

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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2010, 06:52 »

Alright, so I'll try a top-tier or two. Which ones would work best for Illustrations/non-photography images?


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ibogdan


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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2010, 07:41 »

Dreamstime and Shutterstock imho


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