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« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2017, 12:25 »
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Simplified: those who can't do microstock, write books about microstock.  :P

I don't need to do only Microstock or write books.

I'm a finalist for "Travel Photographer of the Year 2017" - image attached.

Nice, hope you win.


Brasilnut

  • Author of the Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock
« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2017, 14:04 »
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. Nice, hope you win.   

Thanks. I don't like to boast, but I had to here in my defence to the cliche of "those who can't do, teach" statement directly at me and fellow authors.

At least we now have the Sheriff to lay down the law  ;)

Sheriff

« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2017, 14:10 »
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In the end, we want to sell more! Time to kill this topic and move on to creating better images...

Shelma1

« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2017, 14:25 »
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. Nice, hope you win.   

Thanks. I don't like to boast, but I had to here in my defence to the cliche of "those who can't do, teach" statement directly at me and fellow authors.


When you start a thread making fun of somebody, other people might make fun of you.

BTW, how'd you get permission to use that photo of Oringer in your book? Or is it available to license somewhere?

Brasilnut

  • Author of the Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock
« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2017, 14:51 »
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BTW, how'd you get permission to use that photo of Oringer in your book? Or is it available to license somewhere?

Michelle, my dear, let's create beauty and inspire others, not get into petty lovers' quarrels.  :-*

But seriously now, Sheriff and I both apologise for that initial thread. I hope you accept it and we can move on.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2017, 15:29 by Brasilnut »

« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2017, 15:58 »
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And just 'like that' he's gone again. The next alias will be #9 by my count.

Brasilnut

  • Author of the Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock
« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2017, 16:52 »
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And just 'like that' he's gone again. The next alias will be #9 by my count.

Looks like someone shot the Sheriff.  :-\

« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2017, 17:50 »
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You think?

« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2017, 18:06 »
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But they didnt shoot the deputy,...

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #59 on: November 14, 2017, 18:11 »
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So it was a chap-door-run all along.
No surprise there.

« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2017, 19:54 »
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I would rather listen to someone who has demonstrably been very successful in this business, like michelle, than follow lists from anonymous forum posters no one even remembers. And don't get me started on books, classes and portfolio reviews from people who's performance has been pedestrian at best.

She's  a success? I wouldn't know financials, but from the complaining about lack of sales, downward income, dropping earnings, plus other surveys motivated by attempts at intimidating agencies, plus obvious dissatisfaction, that a success? I'd think someone who's a success would actually be happy instead of always finding things wrong?

I disagree with  19. Dont try to analyze this business. We can analyze as we wish, use math and just don't over analyze. Don't find conspiracies or patterns where there are none, like people do about sales times or regions or up and down swings in downloads. The natural swings will be up and down, without outside interference, not up and up. This whole market is unreliable and unpredictable, don't have unrealistic expectations based on some random good days.

33. The agency is not your enemy. But they aren't your friend either.

Why don't you tell us who you are, and we can compare successes? I'm assuming since you're on the SS forums you're not McBurney, but you sure sound like him.

Never mind, figured it out.

I didn't bring that up, I was answering this, and asking. I guess it's wrong to ask a question and always get slapped by some unhappy person, who never stops complaining how bad it is, but then someone else says that's success? It is? I'd say if I'm happy doing this kind of work, that's a measure of success.

I would rather listen to someone who has demonstrably been very successful in this business, like michelle, than follow lists from anonymous forum posters no one even remembers. And don't get me started on books, classes and portfolio reviews from people who's performance has been pedestrian at best.

I say make the forum without anonymous people I'd be all for that. Lets here from people their opinion of that? Or stop blasting anonymous people, just because they disagree with you or you disagree with them, as a way to discredit anything they write. More than half the people here are anonymous, are we all unable to post what we think because of that?

I thought the OP was posting a joke, now it's all flames and serious.

You're not anonymous. And starting a thread with a joke about a specific person isn't particularly funny.

You've been complaining on this forum since 2009. You have a blog complaining about Getty. And you started a thread here complaining about what I'd been saying on the SS forums. I don't believe I've ever started a thread about you...have I?

I don't think it was specifically about you, it was meant as a joke I presume ... poking the fire. I do however think that it's just another ploy to promote his book and to stir up this forum with their pitchforks and all ... I think he singled you out because you do have a history of ... being honest and blunt.

Why don't we ditch this thread and start up a preliminary December 2017 thread?

« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2017, 00:37 »
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I do however think that it's just another ploy to promote his book and to stir up this forum with their pitchforks and all ...

Exactly!
Because those who can't do, write books about doing.  :P
And cliches are statistically correct, especially in his case, lol!
« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 00:45 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #62 on: November 15, 2017, 00:57 »
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To clarify my point I wasn't accusing anyone of not being able to take a nice photo. Maybe I should have said "those who aren't particularly successful at the microstock business seem to want to tell others how to become successful at it, in exchange for money, a lot more than people who are actually successful at it as a business". I thought "those who can do" was a bit catchier.

A lot of these books and services are targeted at making people successful at microstock in particular. If just being a good photographer was the objective there are already thousands if books/ youtube videos out there that would get the job done.

Brasilnut

  • Author of the Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock
« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2017, 03:46 »
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Why don't we ditch this thread and start up a preliminary December 2017 thread?

I agree. Let's move on from this raucous thread (of which I take some of the blame).

You guys/gals are a lot of fun but there's much work to be done!

I bid you a good day.


Shelma1

« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2017, 04:56 »
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I would rather listen to someone who has demonstrably been very successful in this business, like michelle, than follow lists from anonymous forum posters no one even remembers. And don't get me started on books, classes and portfolio reviews from people who's performance has been pedestrian at best.

She's  a success? I wouldn't know financials, but from the complaining about lack of sales, downward income, dropping earnings, plus other surveys motivated by attempts at intimidating agencies, plus obvious dissatisfaction, that a success? I'd think someone who's a success would actually be happy instead of always finding things wrong?

I disagree with  19. Dont try to analyze this business. We can analyze as we wish, use math and just don't over analyze. Don't find conspiracies or patterns where there are none, like people do about sales times or regions or up and down swings in downloads. The natural swings will be up and down, without outside interference, not up and up. This whole market is unreliable and unpredictable, don't have unrealistic expectations based on some random good days.

33. The agency is not your enemy. But they aren't your friend either.

Why don't you tell us who you are, and we can compare successes? I'm assuming since you're on the SS forums you're not McBurney, but you sure sound like him.

Never mind, figured it out.

I didn't bring that up, I was answering this, and asking. I guess it's wrong to ask a question and always get slapped by some unhappy person, who never stops complaining how bad it is, but then someone else says that's success? It is? I'd say if I'm happy doing this kind of work, that's a measure of success.

I would rather listen to someone who has demonstrably been very successful in this business, like michelle, than follow lists from anonymous forum posters no one even remembers. And don't get me started on books, classes and portfolio reviews from people who's performance has been pedestrian at best.

I say make the forum without anonymous people I'd be all for that. Lets here from people their opinion of that? Or stop blasting anonymous people, just because they disagree with you or you disagree with them, as a way to discredit anything they write. More than half the people here are anonymous, are we all unable to post what we think because of that?

I thought the OP was posting a joke, now it's all flames and serious.

You're not anonymous. And starting a thread with a joke about a specific person isn't particularly funny.

You've been complaining on this forum since 2009. You have a blog complaining about Getty. And you started a thread here complaining about what I'd been saying on the SS forums. I don't believe I've ever started a thread about you...have I?

I don't think it was specifically about you, it was meant as a joke I presume ... poking the fire. I do however think that it's just another ploy to promote his book and to stir up this forum with their pitchforks and all ... I think he singled you out because you do have a history of ... being honest and blunt.

Why don't we ditch this thread and start up a preliminary December 2017 thread?

Two threads were started about me specifically this week.

How many have been started about you specifically?

Shelma1

« Reply #65 on: November 15, 2017, 05:02 »
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BTW, how'd you get permission to use that photo of Oringer in your book? Or is it available to license somewhere?

Michelle, my dear, let's create beauty and inspire others, not get into petty lovers' quarrels.  :-*

But seriously now, Sheriff and I both apologise for that initial thread. I hope you accept it and we can move on.

Tell me more about the copyright violations in your book. (I notice your "apology" only came after I pointed that out.)

« Reply #66 on: November 15, 2017, 06:17 »
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BTW, how'd you get permission to use that photo of Oringer in your book? Or is it available to license somewhere?

Michelle, my dear, let's create beauty and inspire others, not get into petty lovers' quarrels.  :-*

But seriously now, Sheriff and I both apologise for that initial thread. I hope you accept it and we can move on.

Tell me more about the copyright violations in your book. (I notice your "apology" only came after I pointed that out.)
There can't be any copyright violations in the book. The book is an expert guide on how to license your work successfully. That would have been the first thing the authors would have had pinned down. I haven't seen the book but can tell you now that they certainly wouldn't have implied an endorsement from one of the world's richest image licensing business people by including their photo without legally clearing it first. Move along.


Shelma1

« Reply #67 on: November 15, 2017, 06:32 »
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BTW, how'd you get permission to use that photo of Oringer in your book? Or is it available to license somewhere?

Michelle, my dear, let's create beauty and inspire others, not get into petty lovers' quarrels.  :-*

But seriously now, Sheriff and I both apologise for that initial thread. I hope you accept it and we can move on.

Tell me more about the copyright violations in your book. (I notice your "apology" only came after I pointed that out.)
There can't be any copyright violations in the book. The book is an expert guide on how to license your work successfully. That would have been the first thing the authors would have had pinned down. I haven't seen the book but can tell you now that they certainly wouldn't have implied an endorsement from one of the world's richest image licensing business people by including their photo without legally clearing it first. Move along.

I asked earlier whether he got permission. He wouldn't answer.

Expert guide...well...sure, if you say so. :D

Brasilnut

  • Author of the Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock
« Reply #68 on: November 15, 2017, 07:06 »
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Two threads were started about me specifically this week.

How many have been started about you specifically?

You know what's worse than being talked about? Not being talked about.

- Oscar Wilde

« Reply #69 on: November 15, 2017, 07:36 »
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« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 07:42 by cathyslife »

« Reply #70 on: November 15, 2017, 07:39 »
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Thought you were moving on?  :D 
« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 07:42 by cathyslife »

Brasilnut

  • Author of the Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock
« Reply #71 on: November 15, 2017, 09:48 »
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Thought you were moving on?  :D

This is my home. How could I ever leave you ladies?  ;)

« Reply #72 on: November 15, 2017, 12:29 »
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BTW, how'd you get permission to use that photo of Oringer in your book? Or is it available to license somewhere?

Michelle, my dear, let's create beauty and inspire others, not get into petty lovers' quarrels.  :-*

But seriously now, Sheriff and I both apologise for that initial thread. I hope you accept it and we can move on.

Tell me more about the copyright violations in your book. (I notice your "apology" only came after I pointed that out.)
There can't be any copyright violations in the book. The book is an expert guide on how to license your work successfully. That would have been the first thing the authors would have had pinned down. I haven't seen the book but can tell you now that they certainly wouldn't have implied an endorsement from one of the world's richest image licensing business people by including their photo without legally clearing it first. Move along.

I asked earlier whether he got permission. He wouldn't answer.

Expert guide...well...sure, if you say so. :D

Expert? Come on! Someone who only makes some hundreds bucks a month on Shutterstock has a lot to learn and a lot more selling to do before earning the "expert" badge  ::)
« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 12:32 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #73 on: November 15, 2017, 12:35 »
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Thought you were moving on?  :D

This is my home. How could I ever leave you ladies?  ;)

Move along or the deputy gets it.

« Reply #74 on: November 15, 2017, 13:15 »
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I assume everyone knows I was being sarcastic...


 

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