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« on: October 15, 2015, 21:58 »
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What in your opinion are the main differentiating factors between stock photography and hobby/creative photography?

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What is the one piece of advice you would give to someone starting out in stock photography?

Thanks so much for any replies!  :-*
« Last Edit: October 16, 2015, 16:03 by condra »


« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2015, 22:35 »
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1. Stock photos need to be useful to the buyer, not just pretty, or a function of the creator's artistic vision.

You'll need excellent technical quality for most stock (some agencies taking mobile shots may be more forgiving). You need to be aware of legal issues - intellectual property rights (can't use logos, copyrighted written or visual works, model releases, property releases) - for stock. You need to be able to keyword well - if your images can't be found, they won't sell. Learn how to light an image - or manage natural light; what works for family vacation shots won't do for stock. Think about how someone could use an image - magazine, web site, advertising - not whether you like the scenery or the model is gorgeous.

2. Be prepared to work at this and learn - don't assume that because you know how to take a good photograph that you're all set. If you don't have a thick skin and tolerance for rejection, you'll get frustrated and give up pretty quickly.

« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2015, 02:42 »
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1. With stock you (may) earn some money

2. shoot what you like

ACS

« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2015, 10:47 »
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I can classify my photographs in 2 categories: 1-Stock oriented, 2-Art/Creativity oriented. Most of my artsy images will not sell in Microstock agencies and only a few of my microstock bestsellers can be exhibited in an art gallery. In Microstock "business", subject, composition and technics are the most important things you should consider, whereas for the other stuff you just shoot for the sake of art, I believe..

« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2015, 13:46 »
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Amazing replies. Very helpful. I'm starting to get my head wrapped around this. Thanks so much.  :-*

« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2015, 14:56 »
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Stock is work.

You need to have a very high level of resilience to deal with the daily frustrations - rejections of your favorite images, lack of sales, glitches that make agencies unworkable, often in the most important buying season.

Lack of communication or simply being completly ignored and left out in the cold. People that copy your bestsellers, especially if the agency shows visible downloads, people who will steal your file and upload it as their own. Etc...

Then the lack of sales, it can take a few years until you understand which niche you will do well in or until your quality is good enough. Even professional photographers or art students are often frustrated with the strict quality demands.

The frustration that everybody around you uploads work that is so much better and yet...is often amazingly young. Especially for artists who have won prizes and have some local or national recognition, it can be very hard to accept that the big bad world has so many people with more talent and dedication than they do.

Competing in a globalized market where many stock artists benefit from living in countries with lower running costs for daily life and staff.

Most people I know give up on stock very quickly. Last year I worked with a talented guy who had set aside enough money for a year and wanted to produce 2000 images. i think he had 800 in the end and never made more then 50 dollars a month. He then got himself a dayjob in a different field and is back to doing either art or portrait assignments.

The daily discipline needed when you have no deadline and also it is very easy to get lost in details and lose track of time.

Especially if you do it all alone, it is very hard.

And it is so much easier to make money faster if you invest the same time into assignments. plus...your client gives you a deadline...

Photography is one of the most popular hobbies in the world, but to become a successful stock artist you need a lot more skills than just to be creative and make pretty pictures. Artistic talent is nothing rare, most people can do it, they just don't have the time to.

For stock you need the same kind of determination of a stubborn engineer who keeps going over his project again and again until he has what he wanted.

If you cannot challenge yourself to go beyond what makes you personally happy it is unlikely you will make serious money.

Art can exist for itself alone, doesn't have to please anyone and it doesn't matter if 1 cent or 100 million are virtually assigned to it as a financial value. Even art with no commercial value can be extremly important for the evolution of art itself, just like music.

But stock has to convince somebody to part with their hard earned cash and a stranger you will never meet uses it for something. Perhaps to print designer toilet paper...

If nobody ever buys it, stock has failed it's purpose.

It can still be (only) art, but stock has to be useful for others or it is simply not stock.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2015, 04:37 by cobalt »

« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2015, 15:09 »
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Wow, cobalt - nicely stated!

« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2015, 16:05 »
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Thanks for that Cobalt! I promise I will put this information to good use.

« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2015, 16:07 »
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Very well put the first sentence is key "Stock is Work".

« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2015, 16:24 »
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Well said Cobalt!

« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2015, 08:34 »
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Very well put indeed Cobalt.


The only thing that I would add, is that you need to be your own strongest critic. Just because you have been accepted to contribute to "Agency X" and just because they are accepting the work that you upload, does not necessarily mean that you those images will sell. Most of us who have been doing this for some time have some idea of what will and won't sell, but even so "best sellers" often seem to be a matter of luck.
 

« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2015, 15:45 »
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Very helpful. Thanks!

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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2015, 18:52 »
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What in your opinion are the main differentiating factors between stock photography and hobby/creative photography?

2
What is the one piece of advice you would give to someone starting out in stock photography?

Thanks so much for any replies!  :-*

1. Stock vs Hobby

With a hobby usually you create images that please your creative side without any goal of making money. For some hobbyists who have a golden finger the opportunities and money come anyway but these don't seem to be common. This is where I started. Taking pictures of flowers and tons of other pretty stuff no stock buyer wanted to pay for.

With stock the focus is to create images that sell. Either by stumbling upon a scene, or by creating one, where you say "oh yeah that's money right there". After a while in this business if I didn't think I could make money from a photo I wouldn't take the picture. My need for creative satisfaction was replaced by the satisfaction of money.

2. Advice

Be a great businessperson first and a good photographer second. Everybody is a photographer these days. I think a person with great business skills and mediocre photography skills will do way better than an amazing photographer with mediocre business skills. Taking a picture is only one small piece of the big puzzle. Sales, marketing, finance, social media, networking, SEO, and other business skills are what will help grow a profitable microstock business and lead to other money generating opportunities beyond microstock.

« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2015, 21:40 »
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The words- "Marketing -Marketing"-Marketing" covers it all. That covers what photos you take. What agency you send them to, and what subjects you specialize in.

Smiling Jack


 

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