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fujiko

« Reply #125 on: March 13, 2012, 13:07 »
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The first generation of history that said to their grandchildren they will live worse than their parents, this never happened before in whole history.

That's not due to greed, just simple mathematics.

Is someone forgetting the Dark Ages already? How were times during the ice ages? What about the world wars and great depressions or runaway inflation in the past?   :D

fujiko can you define "live worse" and explain what's so bad about now or the future?

I'd rather see room for hope and things will always be getting better because of knowledge and advances in technology and science.

On those past times that have seen war or other crisis, the feeling was always that they were fighting for survival of their children, for the future. The fight against the worse, the fight to improve. There was always the though that the children would have a better life. Children have been the reason of life for generations.

Instead, today the feeling is just the opposite. There is no fight for the future, there is no hope of having what our parents had. As in 'Son, the party is over, we enjoyed it and there is no cake left for you. Go and fight with the others for the trash that we left behind and be sure to pay the huge debt you are going to inherit from us while we enjoy our accumulated wealth and pass laws to make your future even worse so that our retirement doesn't suffer from the current crisis'.

This generation is so full of itself that it forgot the ties with previous and next generations. This generation is the same that started putting grandparents in old people's homes and children in nurseries at earlier ages so they didn't have the burden of caring of their families. They are so disconnected that they don't care of others.

I'm not saying that this is the first time a generation lives worse than the previous, I'm saying that it is the first time that the previous generation is telling the next that they are going to live worse, will have less, there is no other way and they are not going to do anything to prevent it. They are not going to fight for their children as has been done always in the past.

Of course the reason is that it's their fault. They are the reason of this debt and resource depletion. Pure greed and egoism.

Again, an opinion and a generalization that doesn't apply to all.


« Reply #126 on: March 13, 2012, 13:14 »
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I saw something about semi-transparent solar panels recently.  They're also working on glass that produces electricity.  I wonder if cameras wont need batteries :)  Lots of houses have solar panels in the UK now and they can drastically reduce the amount of electricity a household requires.

wut

« Reply #127 on: March 13, 2012, 13:25 »
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I saw something about semi-transparent solar panels recently.  They're also working on glass that produces electricity.  I wonder if cameras wont need batteries :)  Lots of houses have solar panels in the UK now and they can drastically reduce the amount of electricity a household requires.

Wow, how many centuries are needed for the panels to pay off? ;D

« Reply #128 on: March 13, 2012, 13:53 »
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^^^The technology will get cheaper.  The old ugly expensive panels will be replaced by more practical cheaper options.  Just like digital cameras that once cost a fortune and were useless have now become relatively cheap.

wut

« Reply #129 on: March 13, 2012, 13:58 »
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^^^The technology will get cheaper.  The old ugly expensive panels will be replaced by more practical cheaper options.  Just like digital cameras that once cost a fortune and were useless have now become relatively cheap.

I meant more in the line of how many centuries will it take to get that 5.000 hours of sunshine in the UK to get back the money you've spent for the panels ;)

« Reply #130 on: March 13, 2012, 14:33 »
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We can't rely on any 'one' source of energy, but luckily there are plenty of sources out there.
Solar, geothermal, wind just to name three and also one of my favorites: harnessing the oceans tides to produce power.

There is no doubt that cars need to be electric based.
Battery tech is starting to catch up and that has been the greatest hurdle, because recharging is a lot slower than refueling.
People need to feel confident that their vehicles have a decent range. No one wants to run out of power in the middle of stop and go traffic.

« Reply #131 on: March 13, 2012, 16:20 »
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China is leader with use of electric cars...
Lately they notice some unexpected contamination of compounds that occur as a product of using electric engines ... I watched a documentary about it...

P.S.

I think that technology isn't problem...
In fact problem is replacement and cost of existing technologies and production lines....

« Reply #132 on: March 14, 2012, 04:39 »
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Right now I am watching american documentary film "War for oil" They said that USA and GB are creators of two states Iraq and Iran, only to get  fake and cheap concession on oil fields... They were armed those two countries during cold war...
Conclusion is that today problems are their boomerang production...

lagereek

« Reply #133 on: March 14, 2012, 04:52 »
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Who is worried about oil? petrol or any fuel?  just fill her up and drive the damned thing. Who is worried about disease? when you gonna die of something anyway, or about wars? when we need it for stabilization.
Are we going to walk around worrying for this c@@p, when we cant do a sodding thing about it? nobody is really worried about all this BUT! its a brillant and prosperous seller,  so go on feed them your monies,  cycle to work, even better cycle to your holliday resort, put the wife and two kids on a tandem-bike. Start heating up your homes with coal and wood and then take a deep breath and enjoy the cancer fumes. So its time to go to the hospital, where all of us will end up on a stainless steel slab, deep down in the dungeons of the Pathology-.dept.

have a nice day and think about oil! :)

Moral of it all: if earth is drained on its oil, etc, SO?  it wont happen in any of our lifetimes and the kids we leave behind will laugh their heads off.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2012, 04:55 by lagereek »

CarlssonInc

« Reply #134 on: March 14, 2012, 04:54 »
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Who is worried about oil? petrol or any fuel?  just fill her up and drive the damned thing. Who is worried about disease? when you gonna die of something anyway, or about wars? when we need it for stabilization.
Are we going to walk around worrying for this c@@p, when we cant do a sodding thing about it? nobody is really worried about all this BUT! its a brillant and prosperous seller,  so go on feed them your monies,  cycle to work, even better cycle to your holliday resort, put the wife and two kids on a tandem-bike. Start heating up your homes with coal and wood and then take a deep breath and enjoy the cancer fumes. So its time to go to the hospital, where all of us will end up on a stainless steel slab, deep down in the dungeons of the Pathology-.dept.

have a nice day and think about oil! :)

* you're good Christian - can fit yourself, the wife and two kids on a tandem! ;)

lagereek

« Reply #135 on: March 14, 2012, 05:05 »
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Who is worried about oil? petrol or any fuel?  just fill her up and drive the damned thing. Who is worried about disease? when you gonna die of something anyway, or about wars? when we need it for stabilization.
Are we going to walk around worrying for this c@@p, when we cant do a sodding thing about it? nobody is really worried about all this BUT! its a brillant and prosperous seller,  so go on feed them your monies,  cycle to work, even better cycle to your holliday resort, put the wife and two kids on a tandem-bike. Start heating up your homes with coal and wood and then take a deep breath and enjoy the cancer fumes. So its time to go to the hospital, where all of us will end up on a stainless steel slab, deep down in the dungeons of the Pathology-.dept.

have a nice day and think about oil! :)

 you're good Christian - can fit yourself, the wife and two kids on a tandem! ;)

I know :D  but you see my point, dont you?  sitting around worrying about all this is nonsense. Its like a friend of mine, top athlete, sportsman, healthy living beyond belief, never a drink, never a cigarette, what happens?  Pancreal-cancer and dead withion 9 months at 57. Bad luck.
Enjoy life to its full! wine, women and song and ofcourse the new Canon MIII and a few HD4s, thats it BOBs your uncle. ;D

wut

« Reply #136 on: March 14, 2012, 05:06 »
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Who is worried about oil? petrol or any fuel?  just fill her up and drive the damned thing. Who is worried about disease? when you gonna die of something anyway, or about wars? when we need it for stabilization.
Are we going to walk around worrying for this c@@p, when we cant do a sodding thing about it? nobody is really worried about all this BUT! its a brillant and prosperous seller,  so go on feed them your monies,  cycle to work, even better cycle to your holliday resort, put the wife and two kids on a tandem-bike. Start heating up your homes with coal and wood and then take a deep breath and enjoy the cancer fumes. So its time to go to the hospital, where all of us will end up on a stainless steel slab, deep down in the dungeons of the Pathology-.dept.

have a nice day and think about oil! :)


 you're good Christian - can fit yourself, the wife and two kids on a tandem! ;)


He's a bloody amateur, check the pros ;D http://www.omgsoysauce.com/800/the-things-asians-carry-on-their-scooters/

rubyroo

« Reply #137 on: March 14, 2012, 05:15 »
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I totally agree with you there, Lagereek.  I can cite a number of similar examples among my relatives.  As they say, if you do all the right things, you won't necessarily live longer... it'll just FEEL longer..  ;)

« Reply #138 on: March 14, 2012, 05:58 »
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How to reduce oil consumption?

Release artificial virus and reduce world population by half...

CarlssonInc

« Reply #139 on: March 14, 2012, 06:00 »
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Who is worried about oil? petrol or any fuel?  just fill her up and drive the damned thing. Who is worried about disease? when you gonna die of something anyway, or about wars? when we need it for stabilization.
Are we going to walk around worrying for this c@@p, when we cant do a sodding thing about it? nobody is really worried about all this BUT! its a brillant and prosperous seller,  so go on feed them your monies,  cycle to work, even better cycle to your holliday resort, put the wife and two kids on a tandem-bike. Start heating up your homes with coal and wood and then take a deep breath and enjoy the cancer fumes. So its time to go to the hospital, where all of us will end up on a stainless steel slab, deep down in the dungeons of the Pathology-.dept.

have a nice day and think about oil! :)


 you're good Christian - can fit yourself, the wife and two kids on a tandem! ;)


He's a bloody amateur, check the pros ;D http://www.omgsoysauce.com/800/the-things-asians-carry-on-their-scooters/


loving those images, and also what they might be saying...they just get on with things, not having a car/van ain't going to stop them from doing business - we don't need all the things we think we do, just make do and get on with it.

wut

« Reply #140 on: March 14, 2012, 06:02 »
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How to reduce oil consumption?

Release artificial virus and reduce world population by half...

No, way! Then the pharmaceutical industry would loose 90% of their "customers" (that's right, since mostly the old and sick ppl would die). And we all know those lobbies are as strong as the oil ones

CarlssonInc

« Reply #141 on: March 14, 2012, 06:03 »
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Who is worried about oil? petrol or any fuel?  just fill her up and drive the damned thing. Who is worried about disease? when you gonna die of something anyway, or about wars? when we need it for stabilization.
Are we going to walk around worrying for this c@@p, when we cant do a sodding thing about it? nobody is really worried about all this BUT! its a brillant and prosperous seller,  so go on feed them your monies,  cycle to work, even better cycle to your holliday resort, put the wife and two kids on a tandem-bike. Start heating up your homes with coal and wood and then take a deep breath and enjoy the cancer fumes. So its time to go to the hospital, where all of us will end up on a stainless steel slab, deep down in the dungeons of the Pathology-.dept.

have a nice day and think about oil! :)

 you're good Christian - can fit yourself, the wife and two kids on a tandem! ;)

I know :D  but you see my point, dont you?  sitting around worrying about all this is nonsense. Its like a friend of mine, top athlete, sportsman, healthy living beyond belief, never a drink, never a cigarette, what happens?  Pancreal-cancer and dead withion 9 months at 57. Bad luck.
Enjoy life to its full! wine, women and song and ofcourse the new Canon MIII and a few HD4s, thats it BOBs your uncle. ;D

Of course I see your point. We don't know what the future hold, so we have to make the most out of life, not let worry consume you.

See no need springing for the MKIII, wouldn't mind the H4D though.

wut

« Reply #142 on: March 14, 2012, 06:07 »
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Who is worried about oil? petrol or any fuel?  just fill her up and drive the damned thing. Who is worried about disease? when you gonna die of something anyway, or about wars? when we need it for stabilization.
Are we going to walk around worrying for this c@@p, when we cant do a sodding thing about it? nobody is really worried about all this BUT! its a brillant and prosperous seller,  so go on feed them your monies,  cycle to work, even better cycle to your holliday resort, put the wife and two kids on a tandem-bike. Start heating up your homes with coal and wood and then take a deep breath and enjoy the cancer fumes. So its time to go to the hospital, where all of us will end up on a stainless steel slab, deep down in the dungeons of the Pathology-.dept.

have a nice day and think about oil! :)


 you're good Christian - can fit yourself, the wife and two kids on a tandem! ;)


He's a bloody amateur, check the pros ;D http://www.omgsoysauce.com/800/the-things-asians-carry-on-their-scooters/


loving those images, and also what they might be saying...they just get on with things, not having a car/van ain't going to stop them from doing business - we don't need all the things we think we do, just make do and get on with it.


I tottally agree! That's what I'm saying all the time, but I'm just a communist because of that for most ppl around here. Those ppl consider consumerism, buying things they don't even need, as their birth right. Which of course leads to destruction of our planet, pollution etc. To get back to cars, 99% of the people don't really need SUVs and pickup trucks. They just want it and they're driving them on tarmac exclusively. It's like buying a trailer to go to the grocery shop...

« Reply #143 on: March 14, 2012, 06:09 »
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How to reduce oil consumption?

Release artificial virus and reduce world population by half...

No, way! Then the pharmaceutical industry would loose 90% of their "customers" (that's right, since mostly the old and sick ppl would die). And we all know those lobbies are as strong as the oil ones

But who will be "reduced"?  Only poorest people in 3rd countries... For now you have to help them beacause we are "moral" people even if we need more their Iridium or Oil than they our "precious" help...

CarlssonInc

« Reply #144 on: March 14, 2012, 06:14 »
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Who is worried about oil? petrol or any fuel?  just fill her up and drive the damned thing. Who is worried about disease? when you gonna die of something anyway, or about wars? when we need it for stabilization.
Are we going to walk around worrying for this c@@p, when we cant do a sodding thing about it? nobody is really worried about all this BUT! its a brillant and prosperous seller,  so go on feed them your monies,  cycle to work, even better cycle to your holliday resort, put the wife and two kids on a tandem-bike. Start heating up your homes with coal and wood and then take a deep breath and enjoy the cancer fumes. So its time to go to the hospital, where all of us will end up on a stainless steel slab, deep down in the dungeons of the Pathology-.dept.

have a nice day and think about oil! :)


 you're good Christian - can fit yourself, the wife and two kids on a tandem! ;)


He's a bloody amateur, check the pros ;D http://www.omgsoysauce.com/800/the-things-asians-carry-on-their-scooters/


loving those images, and also what they might be saying...they just get on with things, not having a car/van ain't going to stop them from doing business - we don't need all the things we think we do, just make do and get on with it.


I tottally agree! That's what I'm saying all the time, but I'm just a communist because of that for most ppl around here. Those ppl consider consumerism, buying things they don't even need, as their birth right. Which of course leads to destruction of our planet, pollution etc. To get back to cars, 99% of the people don't really need SUVs and pickup trucks. They just want it and they're driving them on tarmac exclusively. It's like buying a trailer to go to the grocery shop...


All true, but we are humans, not known to be rationale.... Absolutely loved my Jeep Grand Cherokees (had 3)....but with petrol constantly increase in price and now pushing 16kr/litre it made more sense (unfortunately) so settle for a more economical....Volvo...hahah and also no longer living in the remote parts of the Scottish highlands also came into play. I still feel a tug in my heart whenever I see a Jeep drive by....

Caring about the planet, being smart regarding usage of natural resources and caring for fellow people in the world ain't being a communist, not that it is something wrong with that if that is your cup of tea.

rubyroo

« Reply #145 on: March 14, 2012, 06:18 »
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I agree with the points on excess too.

It's also a form of false worry and mental stress... believing that you 'must' have this and this and this in order to simply function or to 'be' something.  

If someone has a luxury item that gives them fun and freedom, then good luck to them.  But if it's become something that represents a 'standard' they must adhere to in order to feel credible, then it's just a prison of their own making.

 

velocicarpo

« Reply #146 on: March 14, 2012, 08:35 »
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Just saw on the TV that a german family built a house which produces more Energy by solar cells that they can spend. They even charge cars etc with it. How can it get better? Zero co2, no bills, no painful stops at the gas station, no monthly energy costs....those who want to pay overpriced and dirty energy from the brainwashing oil industry can continue if they enjoy it so much! You can see the house here:
http://www.rbb-online.de/etc/medialib/rbb/rbb/portal/themen/energieeffizienzhaus/dossierbild_1.file.52759.512.218.jpg
http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/image/view/2012/2/4/11761502,9686243,highRes,maxh,480,maxw,480,23-05%252371-31984480.JPG.jpg
« Last Edit: March 14, 2012, 08:38 by velocicarpo »

« Reply #147 on: March 14, 2012, 09:49 »
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Just saw on the TV that a german family built a house which produces more Energy by solar cells that they can spend. They even charge cars etc with it. How can it get better? Zero co2, no bills, no painful stops at the gas station, no monthly energy costs....those who want to pay overpriced and dirty energy from the brainwashing oil industry can continue if they enjoy it so much! You can see the house here:
http://www.rbb-online.de/etc/medialib/rbb/rbb/portal/themen/energieeffizienzhaus/dossierbild_1.file.52759.512.218.jpg
http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/image/view/2012/2/4/11761502,9686243,highRes,maxh,480,maxw,480,23-05%252371-31984480.JPG.jpg

Yes! But who will pay easy and rich life of energy lobbies and their children around the world...?
They don't want this...

wut

« Reply #148 on: March 14, 2012, 09:59 »
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I agree with the points on excess too.

It's also a form of false worry and mental stress... believing that you 'must' have this and this and this in order to simply function or to 'be' something.  

If someone has a luxury item that gives them fun and freedom, then good luck to them.  But if it's become something that represents a 'standard' they must adhere to in order to feel credible, then it's just a prison of their own making.

 

I'd say 90% of Apple products users are like that. It's more of a religion for them. Almost everyone I know is always buying the new version of iphone/ipad and also most of them never skip more than a generation of macbooks. Some of them are tech geeks, some of them really need new macbooks all the time, but 99% of the ppl really don't new to buy every new iteration of iphone. All of them are paying huge bills to the operators every month, on average 3 times higher than than most ppl.

Slightly offtopic, but I like this quote: Some ppl are so poor the only thing they have is money. It relates to those relying on material goods all the time. They forget to live their lives, to love, laugh and have real relations with ppl (instead of just their possessions and working 12h/day)

lagereek

« Reply #149 on: March 14, 2012, 10:47 »
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Who is worried about oil? petrol or any fuel?  just fill her up and drive the damned thing. Who is worried about disease? when you gonna die of something anyway, or about wars? when we need it for stabilization.
Are we going to walk around worrying for this c@@p, when we cant do a sodding thing about it? nobody is really worried about all this BUT! its a brillant and prosperous seller,  so go on feed them your monies,  cycle to work, even better cycle to your holliday resort, put the wife and two kids on a tandem-bike. Start heating up your homes with coal and wood and then take a deep breath and enjoy the cancer fumes. So its time to go to the hospital, where all of us will end up on a stainless steel slab, deep down in the dungeons of the Pathology-.dept.

have a nice day and think about oil! :)


 you're good Christian - can fit yourself, the wife and two kids on a tandem! ;)


He's a bloody amateur, check the pros ;D http://www.omgsoysauce.com/800/the-things-asians-carry-on-their-scooters/


loving those images, and also what they might be saying...they just get on with things, not having a car/van ain't going to stop them from doing business - we don't need all the things we think we do, just make do and get on with it.


I tottally agree! That's what I'm saying all the time, but I'm just a communist because of that for most ppl around here. Those ppl consider consumerism, buying things they don't even need, as their birth right. Which of course leads to destruction of our planet, pollution etc. To get back to cars, 99% of the people don't really need SUVs and pickup trucks. They just want it and they're driving them on tarmac exclusively. It's like buying a trailer to go to the grocery shop...


All true, but we are humans, not known to be rationale.... Absolutely loved my Jeep Grand Cherokees (had 3)....but with petrol constantly increase in price and now pushing 16kr/litre it made more sense (unfortunately) so settle for a more economical....Volvo...hahah and also no longer living in the remote parts of the Scottish highlands also came into play. I still feel a tug in my heart whenever I see a Jeep drive by....

Caring about the planet, being smart regarding usage of natural resources and caring for fellow people in the world ain't being a communist, not that it is something wrong with that if that is your cup of tea.


Good on you Martin! one of my cars right now is a Jeep grand Cherokee, 2009, model, big V8 engine, now, it doesnt consume more petrol then a new Volvo XC, etc, since the new Vortex engines, its a fallacy that big cars, SUVs, should be so thirsty. Look at the new Mercs, the 500 amg, bloody hell, 2,3 litres per swedish mile.
as I said, in Europe we drive on 95 and 98, its so clean it cant be any cleaner.


 

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