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Title: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: caspixel on June 12, 2011, 17:27
So this has been making the rounds as a "real" photo. I first saw it on a Yahoo photo stream. What do people think? It looks so obviously fake to me, but maybe I should give it the benefit of the doubt? I'd love to see it at high res.

(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/28/article-1306604049145-0C4F907C00000578-835724_636x401.jpg)

This is the description:

This adds a whole new dimension to bird engineering, because this eagle looks for all the world like it's jet-propelled - just look at those vapour trails streaking across the sky from the eagle's talons

Not quite, perhaps, but snapper Pam Mullins captured an extraordinary moment when aircraft were flying above the eagle, exactly in line with the trajectory of the bird's feet.

She said: 'The eagle was just gliding through the sky and I was panning with my camera trying to get a good shot.

'As I took the photo I just thought I had taken a normal picture. But when I looked back I realised how extraordinary it looked. I thought my photo had been ruined by the jet trails! I don't know if I would have been able to take the photo if I had tried.'

The shot of a lifetime was taken close to her home in Prince Rupert, British Columbia, Canada.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/864683-introducing-the-jet-powered-eagle#ixzz1P6TNYwsC (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/864683-introducing-the-jet-powered-eagle#ixzz1P6TNYwsC)
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: SNP on June 12, 2011, 17:32
I don't think it's a fabulous photo to begin with, but I suppose if two plane contrails were positioned there, it's possible that it's real....
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: luissantos84 on June 12, 2011, 17:34
the supereagle!!  ;D
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: PaulieWalnuts on June 12, 2011, 17:46
Totally real. We have jet powered eagles all over the place where I live.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: caspixel on June 12, 2011, 17:47
The lighting, the angle, and the head all look strange to me. And what is going on with the right foot? Can anyone determine what the angle of the sun is?
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: SNP on June 12, 2011, 18:02
I think she might have used some sort of flash. speedlight maybe? I've read about on a few sites now, the Telegraph posted it in their pic of the day section. nothing to suggest it's fake to me but if she did photoshop it, it's still a boring picture. I'm sure she probably got a good laugh out of her inner circle.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: click_click on June 12, 2011, 18:04
Obviously this photo was taken with a flash - I read somewhere it was an Alienbees B500,000 as the eagle was still about 500 yards away.

Shot with a 1200mm lens and a 3x teleconverter.

Due to the lens distortion the wings of the plane behind the eagle are not visible.

 :P
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: luissantos84 on June 12, 2011, 18:09
Obviously this photo was taken with a flash - I read somewhere it was an Alienbees B500,000 as the eagle was still about 500 yards away.

Shot with a 1200mm lens and a 3x teleconverter.

Due to the lens distortion the wings of the plane behind the eagle are not visible.

 :P

you forgot the tripod :)
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: click_click on June 12, 2011, 19:00
Obviously this photo was taken with a flash - I read somewhere it was an Alienbees B500,000 as the eagle was still about 500 yards away.

Shot with a 1200mm lens and a 3x teleconverter.

Due to the lens distortion the wings of the plane behind the eagle are not visible.

 :P

you forgot the tripod :)

No I didn't. It was actually shot hand held. There was no time for the photographer to set it up. It was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

 ;D
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: RacePhoto on June 12, 2011, 22:08
Totally real. We have jet powered eagles all over the place where I live.


And the con trails have chemicals in them that the aliens and the Govt. are using for mind control.

I guess if anyone believes the photo or any of the description, it explains much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory)
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: luissantos84 on June 12, 2011, 22:10
Obviously this photo was taken with a flash - I read somewhere it was an Alienbees B500,000 as the eagle was still about 500 yards away.

Shot with a 1200mm lens and a 3x teleconverter.

Due to the lens distortion the wings of the plane behind the eagle are not visible.

 :P

you forgot the tripod :)

No I didn't. It was actually shot hand held. There was no time for the photographer to set it up. It was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

 ;D

at 1/8000
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Microstock Posts on June 13, 2011, 00:08
The national bird of Indonesia is the Eagle (Garuda) and the national airline carrier is named after the bird too. And the planes often plummet, similar to this eagle or overshoot their runways :-) I think they should change the name of the carrier to something like Swan Air.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Graffoto on June 13, 2011, 00:46
The national bird of Indonesia is the Eagle (Garuda) and the national airline carrier is named after the bird too. And the planes often plummet, similar to this eagle or overshoot their runways :-) I think they should change the name of the carrier to something like Swan Air.


Totally off topic, but I made the mistake of flying Garuda once. Never again.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Microstock Posts on June 13, 2011, 01:13
The national bird of Indonesia is the Eagle (Garuda) and the national airline carrier is named after the bird too. And the planes often plummet, similar to this eagle or overshoot their runways :-) I think they should change the name of the carrier to something like Swan Air.


Totally off topic, but I made the mistake of flying Garuda once. Never again.
Lol! Last year flights to Europe were allowed again after a 6 year ban. So if u live in Europe there maybe no escaping them.  :'(
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: lthn on June 13, 2011, 01:14
It's real.... it's my domesticated eagle, but it's not in the sky, it's sliding on ice trying to to stop with its clws after my domesticated lynx roundhouse kicked it on the face fighting last  winter.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: borg on June 13, 2011, 03:15
Isolated eagle from other background, placed on blue sky background with plane traces... Not too much real...
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: caspixel on June 13, 2011, 09:21
Isolated eagle from other background, placed on blue sky background with plane traces... Not too much real...

That's what it looks like to me.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on June 13, 2011, 09:47
Very fake.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Microbius on June 13, 2011, 10:22
soooo fake
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: jamirae on June 13, 2011, 13:32
the description says right there that the contrails are from jets and not the eagle.  the photographer just claims that she happened to snap the shot of the eagle as it was just in the exact spot to make it look as if the contrails were coming from it, but to the trained eye the angles are obviously all wrong.  so it could be real in that she got it just at that point where the contrails appear to be coming from the eagle.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: click_click on June 13, 2011, 13:41
the description says right there that the contrails are from jets and not the eagle.  the photographer just claims that she happened to snap the shot of the eagle as it was just in the exact spot to make it look as if the contrails were coming from it, but to the trained eye the angles are obviously all wrong.  so it could be real in that she got it just at that point where the contrails appear to be coming from the eagle.
huh?
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: click_click on June 13, 2011, 13:45
I looked at few contrails images and I'm missing the plane in this shot here.

Even if the eagle happened to be in this spot (being shot with a flash or under completely different lighting conditions) the plane or the wings/tips of the wings should be visible somewhere.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on June 13, 2011, 13:58
the description says right there that the contrails are from jets and not the eagle. 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure we all got that, lol...
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: bad to the bone on June 13, 2011, 16:30
Fake...at this look of the jetstreams, the end/behind of the plane have to be seen between the feet of the eagle...
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: lisafx on June 13, 2011, 17:11
Shocking what people are willing to believe!  This obvious fake is taken on faith to be real, while OTOH there is a growing number of people who think the moon landing was faked.  I will never understand human nature!   ::)
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on June 13, 2011, 17:49
All that image needs is a squirrel.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Suljo on June 13, 2011, 19:04
Yeah
marmot for president
WooYay
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: qwerty on June 14, 2011, 02:50
All that image needs is a squirrel.

or jumping goldfish.

Maybe this one should be called a testeagle
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Microbius on June 14, 2011, 05:44
the description says right there that the contrails are from jets and not the eagle.  the photographer just claims that she happened to snap the shot of the eagle as it was just in the exact spot to make it look as if the contrails were coming from it, but to the trained eye the angles are obviously all wrong.  so it could be real in that she got it just at that point where the contrails appear to be coming from the eagle.
I don't think the the eye has to be all that trained to see that the trails aren't coming from the eagle. We get that that was never claimed to be the case.
The point is that it is still a fake. For one thing air traffic control would have something to say about two commercial airliners big enough to make trails that size flying exactly parallel only a few dozen feet apart  ;)
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: caspixel on June 14, 2011, 09:28
The point is that it is still a fake. For one thing air traffic control would have something to say about two commercial airliners big enough to make trails that size flying exactly parallel only a few dozen feet apart  ;)

I felt like the contrails were photoshopped too. Like you say, since when do commercial jets fly that close together - unless they are military jets?
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: click_click on June 14, 2011, 09:39
It's just a plane with four engines that's all. something like this:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_pOL2fx30clw/ScbVnhIbiJI/AAAAAAAAAIg/JXsgzCgbxds/s400/contrail.jpg)
http://polvera-art.blogspot.com/2009/03/952-contrails.html (http://polvera-art.blogspot.com/2009/03/952-contrails.html)

P.S. In case you guys haven't been sarcastic...
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: briciola on June 14, 2011, 09:52
I prefer this one
(http://assets.perfectlytimedphotos.com/hashed_silo_content/silo_content/9407/resized/Fhwn4.jpg)
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: caspixel on June 14, 2011, 09:55
^ROFL.

So I a little photoshopping of my own with click_click's image. If it is that size jet that makes those kind of contrails, there is no way the eagle's feet could have hidden the plane.

(http://www.pixelgraphixdesign.com/images/EagleFake.jpg)
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: click_click on June 14, 2011, 10:10
... If it is that size jet that makes those kind of contrails, there is no way the eagle's feet could have hidden the plane.

That was my point.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: caspixel on June 14, 2011, 10:23
... If it is that size jet that makes those kind of contrails, there is no way the eagle's feet could have hidden the plane.

That was my point.

Right, but if it was two smaller planes, it could almost have been believable.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Microbius on June 14, 2011, 10:34
I assumed it was supposed to be two smaller planes, because a big one wouldn't have been hidden by the feet. But maybe it was a big one that flew up its a*se?
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: RacePhoto on June 15, 2011, 00:25
Shocking what people are willing to believe!  This obvious fake is taken on faith to be real, while OTOH there is a growing number of people who think the moon landing was faked.  I will never understand human nature!   ::)

When Elvis was over last night with his date, Marilyn, we were discussing how gullible some people are...  ;)

What I find disconcerting is, some people won't believe the truth and mistrust almost everything, then turn around and believe silly UFO, bigfoot or Loch Ness monster stories, as if they are confirmed facts. I just don't get it.

Now I see the photoshop was a Gull and someone put the eagle in it's place. Many of us know of Jonathan Livingston Seagull and his book. It was a true biography, wasn't it?
 
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: VB inc on June 15, 2011, 01:16
"believe silly ufo"

I tend to think we're not the only life forms on one planet in this vast universe. religion aside, if there are millions of years since time began, we as a race barely scratch the surface when it comes to being in existence. Just imagine if there might be intelligence somewhere else that had a head start of lets say 500 million years. What part of the evolutionary ladder would they be at right now? Considering the vast amount of change within our last hundred years, its kind of scary to think what will be possible in the next 100 years for us.

Edited to say that i believe that there are a lot of bogus and silly ufo sightings that are clearly fake...
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Microbius on June 15, 2011, 03:50
Just imagine if there might be intelligence somewhere else that had a head start of lets say 500 million years. What part of the evolutionary ladder would they be at right now?

Judging by the way our society's heading I'm thinking somewhere in the basement?
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on June 15, 2011, 05:17
Just imagine if there might be intelligence somewhere else that had a head start of lets say 500 million years. What part of the evolutionary ladder would they be at right now?

Judging by the way our society's heading I'm thinking somewhere in the basement?

No, just extinct. Intelligence probably isn't a very good long-term survival trait.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: Microbius on June 15, 2011, 05:39
Well, fortunately I think we are evolving to be less intelligent so we could have that problem licked before too long  ;)
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: click_click on June 15, 2011, 07:40
Judging by the way our society's heading I'm thinking somewhere in the basement?

Priceless  ;D

But let's assume they ARE way ahead of us in terms of world peace, no hunger, energy problems solved etc.

Why would they even wanna be in touch with us?
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: SNP on June 15, 2011, 12:55
one thing is certain....some of you know nothing about airplanes.... ;D but the comments are amusing.....
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: caspixel on June 15, 2011, 16:53
one thing is certain....some of you know nothing about airplanes.... ;D but the comments are amusing.....

Why don't you share your expert knowledge then?
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: VB inc on June 15, 2011, 19:21
Just imagine if there might be intelligence somewhere else that had a head start of lets say 500 million years. What part of the evolutionary ladder would they be at right now?

Judging by the way our society's heading I'm thinking somewhere in the basement?

Are we assuming intelligent life will behave/evolve the same way as us?
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: lagereek on June 16, 2011, 00:31
one thing is certain....some of you know nothing about airplanes.... ;D but the comments are amusing.....

I do!!!  I have a PPL, and for twin-engined planes!  hows that.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: SNP on June 16, 2011, 00:44
one thing is certain....some of you know nothing about airplanes.... ;D but the comments are amusing.....

I do!!!  I have a PPL, and for twin-engined planes!  hows that.

then you're my new best friend, lol....very cool Christian.
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: lagereek on June 16, 2011, 01:10
one thing is certain....some of you know nothing about airplanes.... ;D but the comments are amusing.....

I do!!!  I have a PPL, and for twin-engined planes!  hows that.

then you're my new best friend, lol....very cool Christian.

Yup!  and you have a hovercraft!!  what a combo! ;D,  very handy for photography!
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: SNP on June 16, 2011, 10:28
one thing is certain....some of you know nothing about airplanes.... ;D but the comments are amusing.....

I do!!!  I have a PPL, and for twin-engined planes!  hows that.

then you're my new best friend, lol....very cool Christian.

Yup!  and you have a hovercraft!!  what a combo! ;D,  very handy for photography!

okay, I admit, I don't get it. ahhh, my little Monty Python quote, just clued in, lol. we do fly, but in a Cessna 182!
Title: Re: Is it real or is it Photoshop
Post by: YadaYadaYada on June 24, 2011, 20:14
Just imagine if there might be intelligence somewhere else that had a head start of lets say 500 million years. What part of the evolutionary ladder would they be at right now?

Judging by the way our society's heading I'm thinking somewhere in the basement?

Are we assuming intelligent life will behave/evolve the same way as us?

What if they aren't nice and friendly and they come to eat us. What if we are the most intelligent life form and we go to visit others. Are we then the benevolent imaginary ET. Natural selection says they will be similar in appearance for practicle reasons, not four eyes, six appandeges, big soft head and all the SciFi imaginary art. When Sagan or Hawking hypothisize life that may be any life, an amoeba or fungus or bacteria life, not intelligent life. We haven't found proof of any life which makes it a long way to complex life forms.

The gullible believe the eagle is realwhen it's an obvious fake, people want to believe ET exists without any evidence. UFOs are not ETs, they are lights or flying things but no evidence makes them anything but a mystery. No proof of anything solid ever. That makes UFOs and ETs more of a religion based on faith then science which is based on proof and evidence.