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I always find it amusing that Un-American seems always to be an insult, whereas, "It's not very British" is generally a send-up, as in, "It's not very British, what?" in a very 'arch' tone.
Why cant he be presidential about it?
Did everyone see the video of him getting on the plane with the wind exposing his almost completely bald head? Don't watch it while eating, is all I can say.
You must stand for the National Anthem. You must applaud for the President when he speaks. Welcome to the Democratic People's Republic of America.
Stan is right, he is just messing around, trolling on purpose to see if some people are imbeciles enough to take notice, looking for reactions!
Quote from: derek on February 07, 2018, 14:27Stan is right, he is just messing around, trolling on purpose to see if some people are imbeciles enough to take notice, looking for reactions!It certainly worked here on MSG
Quote from: derek on February 07, 2018, 14:27Stan is right, he is just messing around, trolling on purpose to see if some people are imbeciles enough to take notice, looking for reactions!Yep, I bet he would have loved to be a stand-up comedian or a reality TV star, able to "mess around" without consequences.Meanwhile he is president. Not a troll on a some forum. Everything he says matters and has consequences.And all he is doing and saying is a real "mess", indeed. Not so much "just messing around".There are much better people at "messing around" than our "Moron in Chief": https://youtu.be/hSCAHKy61-MEnjoy!
Nobody really knows how much the guy is worth. Estimates range in the millions to up to 10 billion. If we go by Forbes for consistency, who are quite generous with their estimates (ranging between $1bn and $4bn since 1988), he's worth $3.1 billion. In 2013, also according to Forbes, he was worth $3.2 billion. Not a massive drop comparatively... but that means he's lost $100 million in four years. Not the best advertisement of his business skills, especially when you take inflation into account. And Forbes again say that he was worth $1 billion in 1988. Accounting for inflation, that's over $2 billion today... so a 50% increase in 30 years isn't all that much to write home about. Take this excerpt from "Business Week estimated Trumps net worth at $100 million in 1978. If Trump had merely put that money in an index fund based on the Standard & Poor's 500 index the kind many Americans use to save for retirement he would be worth $6 billion today."Take his $1bn from '88 and stick it in the same index and he's be considerably wealthier than he is now. Bill Gates on the other hand... he also had $1bn back in 1988. He's now worth $92bn though. Bottom line? If you'd make more putting all your money in a savings account than you would doing what you're doing... are you really all that good of a businessman? Fair enough... the $100 he managed to turn into $1bn between 78 and 88 was pretty impressive. He was no doubt a decent enough businessman prior to '88 (with considerable help from his father's name and line of credit), but after that... well, he's not really 'all that' is he?
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on February 08, 2018, 03:36Nobody really knows how much the guy is worth. Estimates range in the millions to up to 10 billion. If we go by Forbes for consistency, who are quite generous with their estimates (ranging between $1bn and $4bn since 1988), he's worth $3.1 billion. In 2013, also according to Forbes, he was worth $3.2 billion. Not a massive drop comparatively... but that means he's lost $100 million in four years. Not the best advertisement of his business skills, especially when you take inflation into account. And Forbes again say that he was worth $1 billion in 1988. Accounting for inflation, that's over $2 billion today... so a 50% increase in 30 years isn't all that much to write home about. Take this excerpt from "Business Week estimated Trumps net worth at $100 million in 1978. If Trump had merely put that money in an index fund based on the Standard & Poor's 500 index the kind many Americans use to save for retirement he would be worth $6 billion today."Take his $1bn from '88 and stick it in the same index and he's be considerably wealthier than he is now. Bill Gates on the other hand... he also had $1bn back in 1988. He's now worth $92bn though. Bottom line? If you'd make more putting all your money in a savings account than you would doing what you're doing... are you really all that good of a businessman? Fair enough... the $100 he managed to turn into $1bn between 78 and 88 was pretty impressive. He was no doubt a decent enough businessman prior to '88 (with considerable help from his father's name and line of credit), but after that... well, he's not really 'all that' is he?But another angle that's often ignored: how much did Trump consume during this time? Perhaps he would be much much richer if he'd just saved and invested more and spent less of his gains.
Well if the thing about putting his money in a savings account is true... he could have retired in 1978, sat on some island somewhere and spent $1.3m a week, every week... and he'd be just as wealthy as he is now. Without having to do any work.
Ok, $1.3m but make sure to take inflation into account.$350K a week still isn't that bad. Especially if your happy meal was a lot cheaper back then as well.
Ok, well start in the late 80's when he had his first billion. The point is that he's not exactly this amazing businessman that some people make him out to be. A lot of people would probably be considerably wealthier than him if they started with the same money and connections back in the 70's and 80's.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/15/u-s-students-internationally-math-science/
Quote from: Zero Talent on February 07, 2018, 16:18Quote from: derek on February 07, 2018, 14:27Stan is right, he is just messing around, trolling on purpose to see if some people are imbeciles enough to take notice, looking for reactions!Yep, I bet he would have loved to be a stand-up comedian or a reality TV star, able to "mess around" without consequences.Meanwhile he is president. Not a troll on a some forum. Everything he says matters and has consequences.And all he is doing and saying is a real "mess", indeed. Not so much "just messing around".There are much better people at "messing around" than our "Moron in Chief": https://youtu.be/hSCAHKy61-MEnjoy! Well I would like to be that sort of a moron! business-man worth 5 billion bucks, makes poor Oringer look like a beginner! Let me tell you Zero just to quote a famous quote, you dont become super-rich by being stupid!If he was to walk around all stiff and dignified well-spoken eloquent well then the leftie/lib brigade would find something wrong with that calling him snobbish or whatever.If IS blow up a bus in the Alps his Trumps fault, if a car has a flat-tyre its Trumps fault, if an englishman dont like Haggis its Trumps fault?? people never tire do they. Trump didnt come to the MSG but some people here introduce Trump to the MSG and for what............??Meanwhile yes I can understand you I presume youre from the US which I personally still think is one of the greatest countries in the world and especially when you compare it to poverty stricken and cretin-like Europe! unfortunately!