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« Reply #2125 on: February 15, 2017, 19:03 »
+8
His so called extreme vetting policy should have started with his own team, not by harrasing innocent people. Or even better: it should have started by extreme vetting himself.

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« Reply #2126 on: February 16, 2017, 05:33 »
+14
Trump is a traitor. He owe's billions of dollars to Russian banks and Mafia all of which are controlled by Putin. That is why he did not release his tax returns.

Flynn was just following Trump's orders.
I didn't really believe that theory but I'm beginning to wonder. Still not sure whats going on but I reckon some interesting stuff will come out from Flynn before long......
Really, I thought there was some corrupt stuff going on, but I thought the dossier was over the top and not true.  Now I am seriously wondering how deep it all goes since the GOP appears to have no interest at all in protecting the electoral process.  How can any unbiased person say that we shouldn't investigate further?  I am trying not to jump to conclusions...but their actions make no sense unless the corruption extends much further than I originally thought.

What's that famous Nixon era question. .. "what did the President know and when did he know it?"

Here's what I don't get.  He demands Flynn's resignation because he supposedly doesn't trust him,  then hours later he's blaming white house leaks that he had to fire him.  Which is it?  Did he really not trust the guy, or is he just mad the press got wind of his dirty dealings? 

Pretty sure I can guess which he's really upset about ;)
Trump thinks he's smart but doesn't have the intelligence to see that contradiction.  He was also on the side if WikiLeaks and encouraged Russian hacking when it came to information that hurt the democrats but condemns it when people do the same to his administration.  He shows a great lack of intellect and doesn't see that he is being a hypocrite.  He should either accept that leaks are sometimes good when they reveal that someone has been doing the wrong thing or always condemn them.  He seems to have a double standard with almost everything and I don't see how a president can keep that up for long.

« Reply #2127 on: February 16, 2017, 07:02 »
+3
To be honest hes not so different to any other politican in that respect. Difference is he is an unpolished turd

« Reply #2128 on: February 16, 2017, 07:42 »
+1
He seems to have a double standard with almost everything and I don't see how a president can keep that up for long.

He says everything and its contrary every time, that's why he'll last long (unfortunately).

« Reply #2129 on: February 16, 2017, 09:44 »
+6
Right now it's a Russian call if he stays or goes.

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« Reply #2130 on: February 16, 2017, 10:02 »
+8
He seems to have a double standard with almost everything and I don't see how a president can keep that up for long.

He says everything and its contrary every time, that's why he'll last long (unfortunately).

There is no underlying philosophy or morality. What he says depends on who he's talking to. That's why he's a pathological liar.

« Reply #2131 on: February 16, 2017, 16:47 »
+1
Trump to begin his 2020 campaign in Florida on Saturday, he really didn't like losing the popular vote and doesn't intend to let it happen again.

« Reply #2132 on: February 16, 2017, 16:55 »
+9
Trump to begin his 2020 campaign in Florida on Saturday, he really didn't like losing the popular vote and doesn't intend to let it happen again.
Apparently launching his next campaign entitles him to receive presents of cash from supporters. So I'm not sure that it's really about winning the popular vote.

« Reply #2133 on: February 16, 2017, 18:33 »
+6
Its simply beyond any rational discussion I will just hang on and hope he wont blow us all up in the next four years

« Reply #2134 on: February 16, 2017, 18:43 »
+6
This thread has been fairly quiet...because so many unbelievably cr@ppy things happen here on a daily basis with this facacta administration, and there are so many protests every day, that you just can't keep up.

Today DeVos was made education secretary, despite a complete lack of qualification and a history of being against public educationand Democrats finally evolving rudimentary spines and trying their best to block her.

Funny that not only the democrats tried to block her nomination, but also two republican senators, with a rather solid spine, I would say!
Not a surprise that Trump forgot to mention those 2, in his tweet ;)


There's always a story behind something like that.

If you follow a lot of almost-but-not-quite-there votes, you'll notice that the majority always allows a few "renegades" to "vote their conscience" or "listen to their constituents," etc.

But there are never (or hardly ever) enough of those conscience-filled senators to stop the proposal. That's because the parties (both of them) "whip" the votes and know exactly who's going to vote the way they're expected to vote.

A few "renegades" are always indulged for the sake of their next re-elections, but never enough to actually stop anything.

Watch closely. This almost always happens.


« Reply #2135 on: February 17, 2017, 03:18 »
+6
I watched Trumps press conference yesterday.  He makes fake news by claiming he had the biggest electoral college win since Reagan.  He handles any question he doesn't like by saying the journalist works for a fake news organisation.  When told what he said about having the biggest electoral college win since Reagan was wrong, he said he was given that information, taking no responsibility for not checking it.  He was really aggressive with some reporters, especially the Jewish ones.

I think everyone knows that the press run with some stories that they shouldn't but when Trump does the same thing, he can't take the moral high ground.  Some of the points he makes about the press are true but they also question his false statements and that can't change.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2017, 03:21 by sharpshot »

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« Reply #2136 on: February 17, 2017, 04:34 »
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If you watch it again, he starts saying that he meant he had the highest number of votes from Republicans, rather than the highest number of votes in general, but then he gives up on that.... and just says that those were the numbers he was given.

I'm not sure if he did get the most votes out of Republicans. It would be funny if he didn't as then he's be countering false information by providing more false information.

But even if it wasn't false, he still managed to change his tune over the course of a few sentences.

ShadySue

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« Reply #2137 on: February 17, 2017, 05:09 »
+5
We just know what it's all about.
Last night on one of our current affairs programmes (BBC), the presenter mentioned a lot of Trump's untruths 'alternative facts' to one of Trump's spin doctors. Not answering any of them properly, the spin doctor went on to say, "If you didn't have an agenda-driven question list, it would be so much easier to have a better relationship with you".
Meaning, as Trump said about Putin, "If you say nice things about me, I'll say nice things about you".
Meaning: 'Don't dare question what we do.'

Here's a part of the interview, for those who can access it, but unfortunately, they cut the bit where, after the list of untruths from Trump, the spin doctor says, "The BBC thought Trump wouldn't get elected as president. That was fake news." 
Apart from the obvious question of 'when did opinion become news?', clearly all Trump's fury with the media stems from them (certainly in the UK) not really taking his candidacy seriously (until it was too late).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39000118
« Last Edit: February 17, 2017, 08:25 by ShadySue »

« Reply #2138 on: February 17, 2017, 10:50 »
0
We just know what it's all about.
Last night on one of our current affairs programmes (BBC), the presenter mentioned a lot of Trump's untruths 'alternative facts' to one of Trump's spin doctors. Not answering any of them properly, the spin doctor went on to say, "If you didn't have an agenda-driven question list, it would be so much easier to have a better relationship with you".
Meaning, as Trump said about Putin, "If you say nice things about me, I'll say nice things about you".
Meaning: 'Don't dare question what we do.'

Here's a part of the interview, for those who can access it, but unfortunately, they cut the bit where, after the list of untruths from Trump, the spin doctor says, "The BBC thought Trump wouldn't get elected as president. That was fake news." 
Apart from the obvious question of 'when did opinion become news?', clearly all Trump's fury with the media stems from them (certainly in the UK) not really taking his candidacy seriously (until it was too late).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39000118
I watched that.  Such a shame Jeremy Paxman left Newsnight.  He would of taken no nonsense from Sebastian Gorka.  Evan Davis did OK but was too flustered, he's not in the same league as Paxman.

CJH

« Reply #2139 on: February 17, 2017, 10:52 »
0
We just know what it's all about.
Last night on one of our current affairs programmes (BBC), the presenter mentioned a lot of Trump's untruths 'alternative facts' to one of Trump's spin doctors. Not answering any of them properly, the spin doctor went on to say, "If you didn't have an agenda-driven question list, it would be so much easier to have a better relationship with you".
Meaning, as Trump said about Putin, "If you say nice things about me, I'll say nice things about you".
Meaning: 'Don't dare question what we do.'

Here's a part of the interview, for those who can access it, but unfortunately, they cut the bit where, after the list of untruths from Trump, the spin doctor says, "The BBC thought Trump wouldn't get elected as president. That was fake news." 
Apart from the obvious question of 'when did opinion become news?', clearly all Trump's fury with the media stems from them (certainly in the UK) not really taking his candidacy seriously (until it was too late).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39000118

The "content is not working" here in the US, at least for me.  I'd be curious to hear from other USA citizens.  This is not the first tiem I have been unable to access news from an international publication and it really bothers me.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2017, 10:56 by CJH »

ShadySue

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« Reply #2140 on: February 17, 2017, 10:56 »
0
We just know what it's all about.
Last night on one of our current affairs programmes (BBC), the presenter mentioned a lot of Trump's untruths 'alternative facts' to one of Trump's spin doctors. Not answering any of them properly, the spin doctor went on to say, "If you didn't have an agenda-driven question list, it would be so much easier to have a better relationship with you".
Meaning, as Trump said about Putin, "If you say nice things about me, I'll say nice things about you".
Meaning: 'Don't dare question what we do.'

Here's a part of the interview, for those who can access it, but unfortunately, they cut the bit where, after the list of untruths from Trump, the spin doctor says, "The BBC thought Trump wouldn't get elected as president. That was fake news." 
Apart from the obvious question of 'when did opinion become news?', clearly all Trump's fury with the media stems from them (certainly in the UK) not really taking his candidacy seriously (until it was too late).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39000118

The "content is not working" here in the US, at least for me.  I'd be curious to here from other USA citizens.  This is not the first tiem I have been unable to access news from an international publication and it really bothers me.


That's why I said, 'for those who can access it'.
As we pay for the Beeb, it isn't all available overseas.
I don't know how I can recognise what others can see and what they can't. Maybe there's a clue in the URI.

Shelma1

« Reply #2141 on: February 17, 2017, 11:05 »
0
We just know what it's all about.
Last night on one of our current affairs programmes (BBC), the presenter mentioned a lot of Trump's untruths 'alternative facts' to one of Trump's spin doctors. Not answering any of them properly, the spin doctor went on to say, "If you didn't have an agenda-driven question list, it would be so much easier to have a better relationship with you".
Meaning, as Trump said about Putin, "If you say nice things about me, I'll say nice things about you".
Meaning: 'Don't dare question what we do.'

Here's a part of the interview, for those who can access it, but unfortunately, they cut the bit where, after the list of untruths from Trump, the spin doctor says, "The BBC thought Trump wouldn't get elected as president. That was fake news." 
Apart from the obvious question of 'when did opinion become news?', clearly all Trump's fury with the media stems from them (certainly in the UK) not really taking his candidacy seriously (until it was too late).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39000118

The "content is not working" here in the US, at least for me.  I'd be curious to hear from other USA citizens.  This is not the first tiem I have been unable to access news from an international publication and it really bothers me.


Worked fine for me here in NJ.

« Reply #2142 on: February 17, 2017, 11:09 »
0
Don't know if they block it on youtube?
https://youtu.be/rFK3tbkNX-A

If they do block it, try this http://www.ashiktricks.com/this-video-is-not-available-in-your-country-fix/

CJH

« Reply #2143 on: February 17, 2017, 11:12 »
0
Don't know if they block it on youtube?
https://youtu.be/rFK3tbkNX-A

If they do block it, try this http://www.ashiktricks.com/this-video-is-not-available-in-your-country-fix/

Thank you.  I'll check it when I get off work

« Reply #2144 on: February 19, 2017, 11:58 »
+3
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/19/sweden-trump-cites-non-existent-terror-attack

Are any Trump supporters prepared to come on here and explain this coming from the crusader for real news?

Shelma1

« Reply #2145 on: February 19, 2017, 12:01 »
+6
Trump supporters gave up. Too much cognitive dissonance.

« Reply #2146 on: February 19, 2017, 12:40 »
+2
If you watch it again, he starts saying that he meant he had the highest number of votes from Republicans, rather than the highest number of votes in general, but then he gives up on that.... and just says that those were the numbers he was given.

I'm not sure if he did get the most votes out of Republicans. It would be funny if he didn't as then he's be countering false information by providing more false information.

In 1988, the first post-Reagan election:
George Herbert Walker Bush ("Poppy Bush") carried 40 states and won 426 electoral college votes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1988

In 2016, Trump won 306 electoral college votes.

Conclusion: Trump is full of it.

« Reply #2147 on: February 19, 2017, 15:16 »
+7
Trump supporters gave up. Too much cognitive dissonance.

Yeah, there was a mass exodus of Trump supporters from this thread around the time of the DISASTROUS Travel ban implementation.   Nobody claimed theyd been wrong about him.  They just all suddenly and simultaneously decided this discussion was boring and a waste of time.  After arguing for over 80 pages and several months without getting "bored".

Interestingly, I've found the same thing in the real world.  People I know who ALWAYS wanted to crow about how great Trump is and brag about his winning and his "terrific"  policies just suddenly shut up about him about two weeks ago.  Not a peep out of any of them since then.

Coincidence?   Or did the mass hypnosis wear off and these people are realizing there are real, negative consequences to their stupid protest votes?  Have they finally figured out they should have taken him both seriously and LITERALLY?!!

 Or has it gradually dawned on them that they put Vladimir Putin's proxy in charge of our country and its safety?

« Reply #2148 on: February 19, 2017, 16:44 »
+3
Trump supporters gave up. Too much cognitive dissonance.

Yeah, there was a mass exodus of Trump supporters from this thread around the time of the DISASTROUS Travel ban implementation.   Nobody claimed theyd been wrong about him.  They just all suddenly and simultaneously decided this discussion was boring and a waste of time.  After arguing for over 80 pages and several months without getting "bored".

Interestingly, I've found the same thing in the real world.  People I know who ALWAYS wanted to crow about how great Trump is and brag about his winning and his "terrific"  policies just suddenly shut up about him about two weeks ago.  Not a peep out of any of them since then.

Coincidence?   Or did the mass hypnosis wear off and these people are realizing there are real, negative consequences to their stupid protest votes?  Have they finally figured out they should have taken him both seriously and LITERALLY?!!

 Or has it gradually dawned on them that they put Vladimir Putin's proxy in charge of our country and its safety?
Theres still plenty on Facebook supporting him..........but sounding rather desperate imho.

« Reply #2149 on: February 19, 2017, 20:16 »
+3
There are those who want to be on the right side of history, and those who just want to survive that history.  The mainstream media is now an enemy of the people and will be by passed or silenced. Trump's revolution will be televised with a high degree of choreography.  Any reporting he finds unfavorable is fake news.  This is only four weeks in!


 

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