Author Topic: Will the Cell Phone Replace the dSLR? (Read 38293 times)

DF_Studios · « **Reply #25 on:** July 26, 2013, 13:16 »

No device replaces the artist eye, sense of composition and the art of post processing.

sharpshot · « **Reply #26 on:** July 26, 2013, 13:56 »

Will things like Google glass replace the cell phone? I think being able to access the internet while seeing where you're going and not walking in to people will catch on.

gostwyck · « **Reply #27 on:** July 26, 2013, 14:35 »

Quote from: fotoVoyager on July 26, 2013, 02:20

Quote from: Ron on July 26, 2013, 01:53
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Will the Cell Phone Replace the dSLR?
Never

Its the same with everything, really. MP3 still hasnt replaced the CD.

Not for our generation, but my kids will never buy physical media for music. They want their tracks as files.

Both of the Hi-Fi shops in my town have recently closed down. I'm sure one of the main reasons is that the 'new generation' of potential customers simply aren't coming through. No point in having a high-end system if you only have MP3 files to play on it ... it'll just highlight the flaws in the compression.

U11 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 26, 2013, 14:50 »

Quote from: gostwyck on July 26, 2013, 14:35

Both of the Hi-Fi shops in my town have recently closed down. I'm sure one of the main reasons is that the 'new generation' of potential customers simply aren't coming through. No point in having a high-end system if you only have MP3 files to play on it ...

or they just can not compete with internet prices

roede-orm · « **Reply #29 on:** July 26, 2013, 17:02 »

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Will the Cell Phone Replace the dSLR?

Yes- yes, if I can use my Nikon lenses on a mobile phone :-)

tab62 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 26, 2013, 17:32 »

Anything is possible - I guess. Look at this invention-

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/26/live-long-and-prosper-this-guy-built-a-real-life-star-trek-phaser/

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #31 on:** July 26, 2013, 18:58 »

Quote from: tab62 on July 26, 2013, 17:32

Anything is possible - I guess. Look at this invention-

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/26/live-long-and-prosper-this-guy-built-a-real-life-star-trek-phaser/

Awesome.

farbled · « **Reply #32 on:** July 26, 2013, 19:22 »

Quote from: DF_Studios on July 26, 2013, 13:16

No device replaces the artist eye, sense of composition and the art of post processing.

That's it in a nutshell. There will always be a better hammer, but few can build a house with it.

Quality will always, always matter to some.

dingles · « **Reply #33 on:** July 26, 2013, 19:27 »

They already have mounts that provide the ability to attach dale lenses to mobile phones

StanRohrer · « **Reply #34 on:** July 26, 2013, 20:13 »

The very first commercial DSLRs were a major breakthrough but what we have today is so much advanced. The first camera phones were a major breakthrough but what we have today is so much advanced. It's just that the camera phones are delayed in development behind DSLRs. I have lived at the time digital data bits were stored on pieces of magnetic tape in (what is considered today) very small quantities. I'm sure cell phone cameras will advance a long way over the next 10 years. The DSLR will also advance and likely stay ahead in quality. At some point advancements in the technology hit a point where new increments are not nearly as significant and the pace slows. Yes, today personal computers are still gaining a lot of horsepower but much of it is not needed for typing an email or printing a letter. In the camera world we will soon reach the point where casual user needs little more power. It's then the hard core people that continue to push the technology to the end. Today we don't know where that end is - there is still a lot of growth potential in sensors and electronics. Maybe or maybe not in lenses.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #35 on:** July 26, 2013, 20:58 »

What's a CD? You mean like this DVDs that Blockbuster used to rent. (or was that VHS tapes) Hey were is Blockbuster anyway?

No phone won't replace a quality camera. But memory chips, or other storage will replace CDs, sorry Ron.

Quote from: Ron on July 26, 2013, 01:53

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Will the Cell Phone Replace the dSLR?
Never

Its the same with everything, really. MP3 still hasnt replaced the CD.

yuliang11 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 27, 2013, 00:15 »

I don't see how on earth a smartphone can take these photos. But if smartphone manufacturers are willing to put a high end lens onto their phone and selling it for 300 bucks. I'll be the first to jump ship.

pancaketom · « **Reply #37 on:** July 27, 2013, 01:11 »

Right now shutter lag is one of my biggest complaints with tracking devices cameras, but that could be avoided with continuous sensing and then just recording when told too. If they put something like the lytro sensor on there though... Still, I think it will be a while before the little cameras can do what the big ones can do now, and by then I imagine that the big ones will still be way ahead. I wouldn't be surprised if the mirror reflex part goes away though as someone mentioned above.

I have often seen the images on the back of phones or p&s cameras and thought they really nailed it only to look at the full image on a computer and be overwhelmed with the noise etc. Part of this is my microstock pixel peeping obsession, but part is just poor image quality.

Ron · « **Reply #38 on:** July 27, 2013, 02:12 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on July 26, 2013, 20:58

What's a CD? You mean like this DVDs that Blockbuster used to rent. (or was that VHS tapes) Hey were is Blockbuster anyway?

No phone won't replace a quality camera. But memory chips, or other storage will replace CDs, sorry Ron.

Quote from: Ron on July 26, 2013, 01:53
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Will the Cell Phone Replace the dSLR?
Never

Its the same with everything, really. MP3 still hasnt replaced the CD.

whatever, I said still hasn't. The never was about the mobile camera replacing dslr.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #39 on:** July 27, 2013, 23:03 »

Quote from: Ron on July 27, 2013, 02:12

Quote from: Uncle Pete on July 26, 2013, 20:58
What's a CD? You mean like this DVDs that Blockbuster used to rent. (or was that VHS tapes) Hey were is Blockbuster anyway?

No phone won't replace a quality camera. But memory chips, or other storage will replace CDs, sorry Ron.

Quote from: Ron on July 26, 2013, 01:53
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Will the Cell Phone Replace the dSLR?
Never

Its the same with everything, really. MP3 still hasnt replaced the CD.
whatever, I said still hasn't. The never was about the mobile camera replacing dslr.

OK MP3 or whatever format will come soon, hasn't totally replaced CDs... YET. I'd agree to that. But like records were made obsolete by CDs, some people still collect and play them. CDs are old technology and outdated. You can hang on and play them for now.

Hey does your computer have a floppy drive? Do you have a VHS player (some people don't anymore, I still do) Does your laptop have a PCMCIA slot? See a serial port on your computer or maybe parallel port? MFM drives? Modems tha dial on the analog phone lines? Where did all those things go, if they aren't obsolete? CDs will soon follow.

And back to the OP, no the cell phone will not replace the DSLR. One place the Fuji 100sx is replacing the DSLR. Someone else says the EOS-M and mirror-less cameras. But the point is, they are alternatives, using the same technology, not a replacement. And sensor size? Put an APS-C in a cell phone and a real lens, we'll start talking.

I have read where the cell phone is displacing the pocket camera.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 28, 2013, 02:42 »

This is the way things are going.......

The Samsung Galaxy NX Digital Camera with 18-55mm Lens Black is a mirrorless Android powered camera featuring a large 20.3 MP APS-C CMOS sensor, Wi-Fi and 3G/4G LTE connectivity.

I'm not sure if there's a parallel but I feel MP3 sacrifices quality in favour of convenience over CD.

ShadySue · « **Reply #41 on:** July 28, 2013, 05:01 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on July 28, 2013, 02:42

I'm not sure if there's a parallel but I feel MP3 sacrifices quality in favour of convenience over CD.

Plus just like there's a generation who mostly don't recognise the loss of sound quality of CD over vinyl, there is a new generation who don't recognise the loss between CD and mp3.
In the same way, for many purposes many in the new generation won't recognise the difference between phone pics and any other, unless it's pointed out to them, and even then the difference is only really obvious in specialist areas.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 28, 2013, 06:44 »

I don't think there is a loss of quality between CD and Vinyl - although I do believe some CDs are now poorly produced for the MP3 generation.

ShadySue · « **Reply #43 on:** July 28, 2013, 06:59 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on July 28, 2013, 06:44

I don't think there is a loss of quality between CD and Vinyl.

I've often read that it is so. I can't hear it, but I've had very slight hearing issues since childhood. I probably couldn't hear the difference betwen CD and mp3 either, unless maybe in lab conditions.

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #44 on:** July 28, 2013, 07:12 »

The difference is not between CD or Vinyl.
The difference is between analog and digital recording.
Analog recording (in theory) sounds better because it is a continuous signal, not a succession of samples like for digital recording.
So vinyl from analog recording will sound better than CD form digital recording (till the vinyl is intact…).
But we have vinyl from digital recording too (they were called DDA or Digital Mastered if I remember well) and a vinyl from a digital recording will surely not sound better than a CD from the same digital recording.

But we also should consider than today the quality of the equipment used for digital recording is very higher than the one of the equipment used 20 or 30 years ago, and this can really make a huge difference.
One of the problem of recording and mastering today is the abuse of the dynamic compression that tends to produce a higher level (volume) but a less large dynamic band.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

Pauws99 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 28, 2013, 07:21 »

I think you are right - I think digital recording came out slightly before CDs - purists would also say digital more easily enables unethical manipulation.

Sound quality is HIGHLY subjective

stocked · « **Reply #46 on:** July 28, 2013, 07:42 »

no but it's just a matter of taste and what you like to shoot, every camera is a compromise ( even phone cameras

) all have advantages and disadvantages.

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #47 on:** July 28, 2013, 08:04 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on July 28, 2013, 07:21

I think you are right - I think digital recording came out slightly before CDs - purists would also say digital more easily enables unethical manipulation.

Sound quality is HIGHLY subjective

Digital recording has been invented by Alec Reeves (British) in 1937… (PCM - Pulse Code Modulation)
The first Digital recorder on tape in 1967…

Pauws99 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 28, 2013, 08:18 »

If I remember correctly commercial digitally recorded classical records came out 2-3 yrs before CDs though in those days there was lots of hype around different recording technology

Roberto · « **Reply #49 on:** July 30, 2013, 05:01 »

absolutely not, not yet at the moment, the sensor is smaller and the lenses do not want to talk

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