Author Topic: Will we face World War III ? (Read 31772 times)

Netherspite · « **on:** July 26, 2014, 05:07 »

I'm pretty scared by the latest news from the Washington.
They are crafting the new legislation which can start WWIII.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/united-states-crafting-legislation-to-incite-world-war-iii_072014
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/25/russia-humanity-future-paul-craig-roberts/
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/24/washington-escalating-orchestrated-ukrainian-crisis-war-paul-craig-roberts/

BikeTourist · « **Reply #1 on:** July 26, 2014, 06:54 »

If the legislation passed the senate it would rubber-stamped in the house. But, it won't get out of the senate as long as there are still Democrats to oppose it.

(I think.)

(I hope.)

borg · « **Reply #2 on:** July 26, 2014, 07:08 »

No! We will face with Civil World War I!

Soon, people will understand that all wars around the planet are because some "class society" who want to live on someone's account without working or creating...
Big administrations also doesn't produce anything for their living, they just sit in offices and do fictive jobs...
They voting for politicians who will keep that condition...
So, whole crisis comes from this facts... To many people in fact, don't do anything, but they receive sallary for nothing...

There is many examples of such revolutions in the past, now it is time for one global revolution...

marthamarks · « **Reply #3 on:** July 26, 2014, 07:51 »

Quote from: Netherspite on July 26, 2014, 05:07

I'm pretty scared by the latest news from the Washington.
They are crafting the new legislation which can start WWIII.

You are reading fringe articles that are written deliberately to frighten people and stir up trouble.

Believe me, the American people are sick of war. There is no desire here for WWIII, and President Obama (who is Commander in Chief, after all) is certainly not going to lead the charge for that.

Netherspite · « **Reply #4 on:** July 26, 2014, 08:38 »

I really hope that you are right.

borg · « **Reply #5 on:** July 26, 2014, 08:51 »

I have some friends in Russia! They are watching completely opposite informations about crisis in Ukraine...
Exactly same informations with opposite roles... So who has right, nobody...?
We have to know that going in the battle for any country (read administration) is the worst option for us as individual... Because we get nothing according the risk we take (only one life, what means "motherland" without your own life???)...Also, veterans are always the worst category in every country!
In this global world we have to live all together if we want to keep any progress or standard... Nobody has everything for living standard so we have to act together especially against bureaucracy, they want to live on our account, no matter in which country you live...

P.S.

There is some informations that on first missed Malaysian airplane was some revolutionary electronic chip, on second plane crashed in Ukraine, were several experts for HIV and infective diseases, they travel because some crucial meetings in Asia...
So, that maybe mean nothing, but why there is something what putx bug in the ear...

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #6 on:** July 26, 2014, 12:47 »

well, look on the bright side of life...
if WWIII comes, we won't have to worry about microstock and all the madness of agencies pushing earnings down

old crow · « **Reply #7 on:** July 26, 2014, 13:50 »

Put the politicians in uniforms and give them the guns to shoot at each other while the rest of us stay home.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #8 on:** July 26, 2014, 13:57 »

Quote from: old crow on July 26, 2014, 13:50

Put the politicians in uniforms and give them the guns to shoot at each other while the rest of us stay home.

+1. the reason we have war is because mad politicians have enough goons to fight their wars.
if , as u said, we let them start a war, and no one comes. but there are always enough puppets in this world.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #9 on:** July 26, 2014, 15:08 »

Good news is US don't have enough money to fight another war. Wasn't all the wars what bankrupt the old USSR?

borg · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2014, 17:14 »

Nikola Tesla told that first nuclear bomb used in war will be the end of all global wars in future...
So Hiroshima is behind us, so all big wars are ended!

Goofy · « **Reply #11 on:** July 26, 2014, 18:39 »

Quote from: borg on July 26, 2014, 17:14

Nikola Tesla told that first nuclear bomb used in war will be the end of all global wars in future...
So Hiroshima is behind us, so all big wars are ended!

Now the 'Tesla' family name is the best Electric car manufacturer in the U.S.

Mantis · « **Reply #12 on:** July 26, 2014, 19:48 »

Quote from: borg on July 26, 2014, 17:14

Nikola Tesla told that first nuclear bomb used in war will be the end of all global wars in future...
So Hiroshima is behind us, so all big wars are ended!

Until Iran gets their nuke program warhead capable. And I strongly believe that they will use it. And what do you do to prevent development? Obama is too much of a * to tighten sanctions, so Iran will keep freely doing what we know they are doing.

marthamarks · « **Reply #13 on:** July 26, 2014, 21:48 »

Quote from: Mantis on July 26, 2014, 19:48

Obama is too much of a * to tighten sanctions, so Iran will keep freely doing what we know they are doing.

Some individuals here are Obama supporters who like his measured approach. Bush, Cheney, McCain, Graham, Cruz, et al, would have had us in half a dozen wars after Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sorry, Mantis, but this is not the proper forum for making disrespectful comments about the President of the United States.

Mantis · « **Reply #14 on:** July 26, 2014, 21:54 »

Quote from: marthamarks on July 26, 2014, 21:48

Quote from: Mantis on July 26, 2014, 19:48
Obama is too much of a * to tighten sanctions, so Iran will keep freely doing what we know they are doing.

Some individuals here are Obama supporters who like his measured approach. Bush, Cheney, McCain, Graham, Cruz, et al, would have had us in half a dozen wars after Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sorry, Mantis, but this is not the proper forum for making disrespectful comments about the President of the United States.

You and I disagree. I can't stand that wimp. And I think you mean mismeasured.

Mark Windom Photography · « **Reply #15 on:** July 26, 2014, 23:26 »

Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Israel/Gaza, Iraq, Ukraine, Iran.....what's there to be worried about?

I take things one day at a time and try not to worry about things I can't control. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail in all conflicted regions (I'm sure I'm leaving some locations out) and we can all just get along.

topol · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2014, 03:43 »

Quote from: Mantis on July 26, 2014, 19:48

Quote from: borg on July 26, 2014, 17:14
Nikola Tesla told that first nuclear bomb used in war will be the end of all global wars in future...
So Hiroshima is behind us, so all big wars are ended!

Until Iran gets their nuke program warhead capable. And I strongly believe that they will use it. And what do you do to prevent development? Obama is too much of a * to tighten sanctions, so Iran will keep freely doing what we know they are doing.

Iran has no nuke program. The official report actually says that they couldn' find anything that even hints at Iran even trying to produce anything that could ever lead to a nuclear weapon... but even that's very-very suspicous because it's Iran!

That's the satus quo. It' typical naive commie style propaganda for the dumbest of the dumb prols who never-ever read beyond headlines - belive my I know I grew up in an ex-commie country.

borg · « **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2014, 04:09 »

STUDY The Less Americans Know about Ukraine’s Location, the More They Want U.S. to Intervene

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/04/study-less-americans-know-about.html

About one in six (16 percent) Americans correctly located Ukraine, clicking somewhere within its borders. Most thought that Ukraine was located somewhere in Europe or Asia, but the median respondent was about 1,800 miles off — roughly the distance from Chicago to Los Angeles — locating Ukraine somewhere in an area bordered by Portugal on the west, Sudan on the south, Kazakhstan on the east, and Finland on the north...

the further our respondents thought that Ukraine was from its actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene militarily. Even controlling for a series of demographic characteristics and participants’ general foreign policy attitudes, we found that the less accurate our participants were, the more they wanted the U.S. to use force, the greater the threat they saw Russia as posing to U.S. interests, and the more they thought that using force would advance U.S. national security interests...

This is main problem or threat from voting population on elections,all around the world,... THEY KNOW NOTHING! I remember how it was in ex. YU during 90ties... Same story!
Allways want war those people who know nothing, so we need to stop them on some way, because they can vote like we are... That is the biggest mistake of democracy!
Just add a bit of a fake propaganda on this, and you can do what you want with a World, or some country!

SPREAD THE WORD!

OM · « **Reply #18 on:** July 27, 2014, 08:16 »

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

Winston Churchill

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #19 on:** July 27, 2014, 09:40 »

Quote from: Goofy on July 26, 2014, 18:39

Quote from: borg on July 26, 2014, 17:14
Nikola Tesla told that first nuclear bomb used in war will be the end of all global wars in future...
So Hiroshima is behind us, so all big wars are ended!

Now the 'Tesla' family name is the best Electric car manufacturer in the U.S.

let's hope they don't explode

(JOKING JOKING ONLY)

roede-orm · « **Reply #20 on:** July 27, 2014, 15:35 »

Quote from: marthamarks on July 26, 2014, 21:48

Quote from: Mantis on July 26, 2014, 19:48
Obama is too much of a * to tighten sanctions, so Iran will keep freely doing what we know they are doing.

Some individuals here are Obama supporters who like his measured approach. Bush, Cheney, McCain, Graham, Cruz, et al, would have had us in half a dozen wars after Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sorry, Mantis, but this is not the proper forum for making disrespectful comments about the President of the United States.

Obama is a president, on which each american citizen can be proud of. That's my 2 cent from Germany.

marthamarks · « **Reply #21 on:** July 27, 2014, 16:33 »

Quote from: roede-orm on July 27, 2014, 15:35

Obama is a president, on which each american citizen can be proud of. That's my 2 cent from Germany.

+1

I am proud of him, roede-orm. Thank you.

goober · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2014, 00:23 »

I suspect that hidden powers want to take out Iran, but they have to contend with Syria and Russia to do it. Now Russia has a nice little fire in it's backyard and Israel has a nice little fire in it's backyard. Us regular people just sit and wonder what the heck is going on.

Anyka · « **Reply #23 on:** July 28, 2014, 00:46 »

While I do consider Ukraine and Israel to be real wars, and a disaster for the people there, I must say I am more afraid of the Ebola virus than of WWIII ...

topol · « **Reply #24 on:** July 28, 2014, 03:59 »

Quote from: marthamarks on July 27, 2014, 16:33

Quote from: roede-orm on July 27, 2014, 15:35
Obama is a president, on which each american citizen can be proud of. That's my 2 cent from Germany.

+1

I am proud of him, roede-orm. Thank you.

Oabama sigend the NDAA into law, also he did it very sneakily in the middle of the christmas season when 'nobody is watching'. He personally conducts drone wars where he signs off on the execution of suspects. Contemplate this for a few secs to let it sink in: they execute 'suspects'. (I bet you just don't get what's so wrong with that) He didn't move a finger to punish or even to contain the wall street thievery. Instead ha made their main man, geithner, his reasury secretary... and all you fools still think he is your 'funky brotha'. It's just painful to see.

marthamarks · « **Reply #25 on:** July 28, 2014, 06:51 »

Quote from: topol on July 28, 2014, 03:59

and all you fools still think he is your 'funky brotha'. It's just painful to see.

I happen to be a 68-year-old white woman. I definitely do not see President Obama as my "funky brotha' ".

I'm also a lifelong moderate Republlcan, BTW, but I voted twice for Obama because, like so many other moderates, I was sick of the Bush-Cheney swagger-and-throw-your-weight-around-the-world attitude, the inattention that led to 9/11, the blatant lies ("Saddam's WMD", "mushroom cloud", "yellowcake from Africa", etc) that got us into Iraq, etc. I also care about other issues, such as conservation and environmental protection, human rights, equal opportunity, and other things that the GOP used to be good on but doesn't care about these days.

Maybe you should think harder before you judge others based on prejudices and cliches.

topol · « **Reply #26 on:** July 28, 2014, 07:59 »

Quote from: marthamarks on July 28, 2014, 06:51

Quote from: topol on July 28, 2014, 03:59
and all you fools still think he is your 'funky brotha'. It's just painful to see.

I happen to be a 68-year-old white woman. I definitely do not see President Obama as my "funky brotha' ".

I'm also a lifelong moderate Republlcan, BTW, but I voted twice for Obama because, like so many other moderates, I was sick of the Bush-Cheney swagger-and-throw-your-weight-around-the-world attitude, the inattention that led to 9/11, the blatant lies ("Saddam's WMD", "mushroom cloud", "yellowcake from Africa", etc) that got us into Iraq, etc. I also care about other issues, such as conservation and environmental protection, human rights, equal opportunity, and other things that the GOP used to be good on but doesn't care about these days.

Maybe you should think harder before you judge others based on prejudices and cliches.

What difference does being elderly make here, besides that you really should know better with decades of life and voting behind you? Obama is bush without the 'swagger'. What was my prejudice or cliche? The NDAA, which makes it possible to just throw someone in a hole forever, hey who needs friggin' habeas corpus and all that enlightement krap? Driving bombs into villages because someone said there might be someone on the main square who might be connected to something that might happen? Really?

What about ISIS btw. Does anyone seriously think they they are not backed/created by the western powers including USA? They almost make it obvious.

marthamarks · « **Reply #27 on:** July 28, 2014, 08:21 »

Quote from: topol on July 28, 2014, 07:59

What difference does being elderly make here

Well, gee, I guess being a retired white American woman might have something to do with the fact that when I look at Barack Obama I don't see my "funky brotha' ".

Get it now?

And BTW, nobody who knows me in person would call me "elderly." I can tote 20 pounds of camera, 500 mm lens, and tripod for quite a useful distance. If you don't believe me, visit my website and see the wildlife images I make.

Another bad use of language and prejudice on your part, Topol (or whatever your name really is).

topol · « **Reply #28 on:** July 28, 2014, 08:44 »

Quote from: marthamarks on July 28, 2014, 08:21

Quote from: topol on July 28, 2014, 07:59
What difference does being elderly make here

Well, gee, I guess being a retired white American woman might have something to do with the fact that when I look at Barack Obama I don't see my "funky brotha' ".

Get it now?

And BTW, nobody who knows me in person would call me "elderly." I can tote 20 pounds of camera, 500 mm lens, and tripod for quite a useful distance. If you don't believe me, visit my website and see the wildlife images I make.

Another bad use of language and prejudice on your part, Topol (or whatever your name really is).

Let's just say that if G.W: Bush can have "swagger", Obama could be your "funky brotha", ok?

but please... instead turning this into a physical-vanity rant, could you please tell me:

-what was my prejudice?
-what part of my post about Obama wasn't true?
-how do you relate to Obama doing the things I mentioned? Are those things that you shrug off as insignificant? Or maybe it's all just 'bad use of language' somehow?

-do you even know what habeas corpus is?

U11 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 28, 2014, 08:44 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on July 26, 2014, 15:08

Wasn't all the wars what bankrupt the old USSR?

I thought low oil price did it

topol · « **Reply #30 on:** July 28, 2014, 08:54 »

Quote from: U11 on July 28, 2014, 08:44

Quote from: PixelBytes on July 26, 2014, 15:08
Wasn't all the wars what bankrupt the old USSR?
I thought low oil price did it

It just collapsed by itself, and of course everyone took the credit for it, from the afgan mujahedin to USA thru western europe. At the endgame, their idiotic quota system had things happening like cargo travelling back and forth on railways for thousands and thousands of miles for no reason whatsoever. Their economy was made up of almost pure inefficiency. We here in the soviet satellite countries made endless jokes about this, like how their best lathe machine and it's award winning operator can create a couple of tootpicks from a whole timber in just 10 seconds.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #31 on:** July 28, 2014, 09:56 »

like it or not, Russian or girls from what was the old Russia combined,
still have the best looking girls. at least the ones who came to USA and Canada.
waaaaaa, no wonder USA wanted all of us to think Russian girls were all fat and drank vodka.
today, we have polish ponchee shops here with all those beautiful polish girls...
and i shake my head and say, "geeesh, why didn't i move to Russia

"

marthamarks · « **Reply #32 on:** July 28, 2014, 10:47 »

Quote from: topol on July 28, 2014, 08:44

-do you even know what habeas corpus is?

Oh, my dear Topol, you really should have stopped while you were ahead!

So yes, actually, I do know what habeas corpus is. Not only from my long, long, looooong life as an American citizen, fully aware of my legal rights as spelled out in the US Constitution, but also from my not-quite-as-looooong-but-quite-lengthy-nevertheless tenure as a college professor of Romance languages… from which I am now happily retired and which did involve, in the process of earning my Ph.D., considerable study of Latin.

So yes, actually, I do know what habeas corpus means, both in the civic sense and in the Latin sense.

Just a bit more proof of your tendency to bring foolish prejudices and cliched thinking to your style of argument.

topol · « **Reply #33 on:** July 28, 2014, 12:37 »

Quote from: marthamarks on July 28, 2014, 10:47

Quote from: topol on July 28, 2014, 08:44
-do you even know what habeas corpus is?

Oh, my dear Topol, you really should have stopped while you were ahead!

So yes, actually, I do know what habeas corpus is. Not only from my long, long, looooong life as an American citizen, fully aware of my legal rights as spelled out in the US Constitution, but also from my not-quite-as-looooong-but-quite-lengthy-nevertheless tenure as a college professor of Romance languages… from which I am now happily retired and which did involve, in the process of earning my Ph.D., considerable study of Latin.

So yes, actually, I do know what habeas corpus means, both in the civic sense and in the Latin sense.

Just a bit more proof of your tendency to bring foolish prejudices and cliched thinking to your style of argument.

Let's note how the ex-college professor couldn't answer anything, just went on ranting.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #34 on:** July 28, 2014, 12:48 »

Oh please fight on, ...
if politicians u support only fight the same way like u do here,
we will definitely not see a war, never mind WWIII

but someone in your country has a button he or she will push
and we will all go up in smoke together.

as Bruce said, "blind faith can get u killed".

so long as there is enough ppl with brains to question their politicians, we will all do fine.
it is the silent majority that will see the damnation of mankind.
much like in the other thread on Shuttestock. meglamaniac thrives on silence of the lambs.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #35 on:** July 28, 2014, 13:07 »

Quote from: marthamarks on July 28, 2014, 10:47

Quote from: topol on July 28, 2014, 08:44
-do you even know what habeas corpus is?

Oh, my dear Topol, you really should have stopped while you were ahead!

He never was ahead. His attitudes are embarrassment to thinking Americans. You make a lot of sense Martha.

ultimagina · « **Reply #36 on:** July 28, 2014, 13:09 »

Not World War III but definitely Cold War II!

The only reasonable way to stop Russia (again!) and Putin's ambition to be one step closer to the fulfillment of Peter I dream and legacy: transform the Black Sea in a Russian lake.

marthamarks · « **Reply #37 on:** July 28, 2014, 13:56 »

Quote from: topol on July 28, 2014, 12:37

Let's note how the ex-college professor couldn't answer anything, just went on ranting.

Well, to tell you the truth, some duels are worth fighting. Some questions are worth answering. And sometimes it's best just to let stuff go.

If you weren't negatively impressed by how the Bush Administration ignored its own internal experts' warning that "Bin Laden was determined to strike the US", singled out for retribution a man (Saddam Hussein) who had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11, and then flat-out lied us into a war of choice that would ultimately…

1. kill and maim many hundreds of thousands of people,

2. disrupt the previously stable balance between Iraq-Iran (and with it the entire Middle East),

3. come close to bankrupting the US with a trillion-$$$ war mostly conducted off the budget books, and

4. seriously damage our reputation in the world…

it doesn't seem likely that you would be influenced by anything I might decide to say in response to your too-simplistic, based-on-bias, anti-Obama rant.

But please, Friend Topol, keep on keeping on with it. Just bear in mind that your persistence doesn't seem to be winning many hearts and minds here.

marthamarks · « **Reply #38 on:** July 28, 2014, 13:57 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on July 28, 2014, 13:07

Quote from: marthamarks on July 28, 2014, 10:47
Quote from: topol on July 28, 2014, 08:44
-do you even know what habeas corpus is?

Oh, my dear Topol, you really should have stopped while you were ahead!

He never was ahead. His attitudes are embarrassment to thinking Americans. You make a lot of sense Martha.

Thanks, PB!

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