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Is PM results in your opinion fixed?

Yes
7 (53.8%)
No
3 (23.1%)
Uncertain
3 (23.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Author Topic: Re: Are the polls fixed? (Poll)  (Read 3498 times)

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CD123

« on: April 19, 2012, 14:57 »
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Please only vote if you are a contributor to this website and indicates your sales on this site on the monthly income poll.

This poll created with reference to this post:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/panthermedia-net/are-the-polls-fixed/msg251323/#msg251323
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 15:05 by CD123 »


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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2012, 15:32 »
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what's the value of this poll?  if anyone has evidence of fixing, demonstrate it - otherwise it's like asking if your taxes are too high

CD123

« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2012, 15:42 »
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what's the value of this poll?  if anyone has evidence of fixing, demonstrate it - otherwise it's like asking if your taxes are too high
It combines a huge number of posts where people complain about possible rigging. Now one can count heads. No, it is not like asking if your taxes are too high, because one can expect a 100% yes. In this poll people who make an earning justifying PM's current position will vote NO.

Quite simple principle which most should understand. How do you suggest we will ever be able to "demonstrate" poll fixing by non real contributors?  ::)

« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2012, 15:53 »
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this poll can be fixed too :)

if not, it will soon be proven that PM is actually quite a poor site..

« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 16:01 »
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My earnings on PM  vary a lot from month to month. Few non-subscription sales (for unknown reasons called licence sales) make a big difference. Usually I make few euros on PM but last two months my PM earnings are comparable to Deposit.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 16:04 by jm »

CD123

« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 16:08 »
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this poll can be fixed too :)

if not, it will soon be proven that PM is actually quite a poor site..

True, but as there are no amounts involved here and every member can only vote once, single fake members putting huge revenue amounts into the income poll should get diluted here. This is by no means scientific, just a simple headcount.  ;)

CD123

« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2012, 16:12 »
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My earnings on PM  vary a lot from month to month. Few non-subscription sales (for unknown reasons called licence sales) make a big difference. Usually I make few euros on PM but last two months my PM earnings are comparable to Deposit.
Thank you for adding a post to your vote. At least one can see who you are. Perhaps every one who votes NO should add a post for ID purpose?  :P

« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 16:14 »
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My earnings on PM  vary a lot from month to month. Few non-subscription sales (for unknown reasons called licence sales) make a big difference. Usually I make few euros on PM but last two months my PM earnings are comparable to Deposit.
Thank you for adding a post to your vote. At least one can see who you are. Perhaps every one who votes NO should add a post for ID purpose?  :P

Actually, I didn't vote.  :)

CD123

« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 16:21 »
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My earnings on PM  vary a lot from month to month. Few non-subscription sales (for unknown reasons called licence sales) make a big difference. Usually I make few euros on PM but last two months my PM earnings are comparable to Deposit.
Thank you for adding a post to your vote. At least one can see who you are. Perhaps every one who votes NO should add a post for ID purpose?  :P

Actually, I didn't vote.  :)

Actually then you should, it will help clarifying the picture.  ;)

« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2012, 19:53 »
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I started submitting to PM due to the "high" ranking here on MSG.

I shouldn't have joined. Now I'm even stuck in this 15% tax mambo-jambo that only PM pulls off (at least for me, submitting to some other German agencies as well...).

I can point out at least 6 agencies on the right "below" PM that perform way better for me and that's sad, so I do think that the results are somewhat skewed.

Even subscription sales are scarce.

Their partner program with prints etc. is just horrible IMO and I opted out of everything. Maybe that brings in a ton of cash for others, no idea.

Now, I'm kind of in too deep. A lot of work I put into it for months and now I don't want to quit and rather take the measly payouts they give me.

Well, not every agency is a winner...

CD123

« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 00:21 »
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I started submitting to PM due to the "high" ranking here on MSG.

I shouldn't have joined. Now I'm even stuck in this 15% tax mambo-jambo that only PM pulls off (at least for me, submitting to some other German agencies as well...).

I can point out at least 6 agencies on the right "below" PM that perform way better for me and that's sad, so I do think that the results are somewhat skewed.

Even subscription sales are scarce.

Their partner program with prints etc. is just horrible IMO and I opted out of everything. Maybe that brings in a ton of cash for others, no idea.

Now, I'm kind of in too deep. A lot of work I put into it for months and now I don't want to quit and rather take the measly payouts they give me.

Well, not every agency is a winner...

I also find it counter productive to "pull" your images from websites (deleting them), except in case of possible fraud or copy right infringement. I just stop uploading (stop wasting time) and rather spend the extra time available on something more positive like creating more images. Also by leaving your images on the site, one can monitor if there is, somehow, an improvement in sales in future.

« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2012, 01:20 »
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So far, this poll has proved that 90% of voters get the wrong answer. The only correct answer is "don't know".

CD123

« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2012, 17:07 »
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Whatever the outcome here, I just had 80% failure on my last upload. 80% of those where accepted by the major sites (I think PM share reviewers with Crestock). With 1 sale this year I have decided to hang up my gloves on this one.

Good for the people who do make sales on PM, but my experience is that with the exception with BS and PM, all the other sites falls roughly in my sales pattern in respect of their positions. The big difference is that I do not find constant complaints about possible rigging of sales in the BS forum.

As said earlier, where there is smoke.......! I do not accuse PM directly of wrong doing, as it can be done without their knowledge by (rather disturbed) members.

Will leave my port to monitor any future change, but can not see myself wasting a minute more till I can see a major change myself.

PS: I changed the poll by adding "in your opinion", as the valid remark was made that no one can know for certain.  ;)
« Last Edit: April 20, 2012, 17:11 by CD123 »


 

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