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donding

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« on: January 30, 2010, 19:05 »
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Wheeew...all day. Of course the free software Inkscape kept locking up on me so I'd loss layers...it would save the vector as a whole rather than separet layers....of course that could have been my fault...just remember this is the first and hopefully not the last
HERE IT IS !!!!! If you laugh I hope you laugh hard   ::)


« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2010, 19:31 »
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Very smart !!  ;)


donding

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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2010, 19:47 »
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Very smart !!  ;)


Thank ya Stu....ugly looking thing wouldn't ya say? I bet everyones first vector is a VW...lol

« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2010, 20:02 »
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Gotta start somewhere. Keep working on it. I started learning vectors fairly recently too, and intend to contribute to stock someday.

donding

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2010, 20:20 »
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Gotta start somewhere. Keep working on it. I started learning vectors fairly recently too, and intend to contribute to stock someday.
The hardest part is trying to remember what button you pushed and when...it would be easier if the software I used worked better...but it was freeware so I can't really complain.

« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2010, 21:23 »
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Hi Donding,
this is sooo cute and it's creative and funny, I can't believe it!
You should have seen my first vector, oh my god ! :)
Yours is one of the best 'first vectors' i've seen so far.
i mean it, well done!
I know it takes long hours (remember this is only your first - things like organizing layers and creating simple shapes will get a lot faster in time) but the important question is - did you enjoy creating it?
If the answer is yes, there's no giving up. From this point on you can only get better.
Remember - close all your shapes, outline your strokes, use as few anchor points as you can (anchor points handles, each side, should be about 1/3 of the length of the path) avoid raster effects (drop shadows and even gradients are a problem whens saving as EPS), read tutorials, read books, try and try again.
You've got yourself one cute WW to start with.
I love the doorknob and its shadow detail. Good job there!
How did you create the wheels? Circles, stacked on top of each other?
Well, this is exactly the same principle used to create those best selling shiny web buttons.
Now you know :)
Good luck Averil and Donding, looking forward for more :)

LSD72

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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2010, 21:34 »
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Cant the SS requirement of EPS 10 handle gradients and transparencies? I know 8 cannot just not sure of 10.

« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2010, 22:28 »
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True Donding, LSD is right :)

As long as you save a later version than EPS 8 (EPS 10 for example) you can use gradients and what's even better, you can also use transparencies!
Transparencies are great, you'll love them.

There are a few EPS versions you need to know.
EPS 8 - Inkscape problems with gradients, (gradients ok with Illustrator). No drop shadows, no transparencies.
EPS 10 - gradients and transparencies allowed. No drop shadows.
SS, DT, FT all accept both EPS 8 and EPS 10.
I think IS doesn't (only EPS 8 accepted there).

And by the way, I'm definitely no authority. I'm actually waiting for experienced stock illustrators to come by and help us all out. Thank you LSD :)
And I'm no artist either. I'm just a long time Illustrator user, but that's about all.
It's fun though, and I like to help if I can.

Ah, and by the way, I'm working on a tractor right now, (spring theme, farmer). It's red, like your WW, but not half as cute or creative.
Waiting for more illustrations, best of luck,
« Last Edit: January 30, 2010, 22:37 by Eireann »

donding

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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2010, 23:32 »
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Thank you LSD and Eireann...as for the wheels I used three circles and moved them and moved them and moved them...I think 20 times....lol :D. I don't remember how I made the texture on the outside of the wheels. Like I said I couldn't remember which button did what. Next time I'll write everything down as I do it...now forgive but what is EPS? I saved the file in PNG format. I know I can open it in Photoshop Elements..so hopefully I can save it in this EPS file format you talk about. I'll try it tomarrow...time for bed..my brain is exhausted after that creation.  ;D

LSD72

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2010, 00:12 »
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If you get into submitting as a vector... you have to have a .eps and a jpeg (this for a preview image). When saving as a eps, there should be some option as to which version of Illustrator you want to save it for. Illustrator 8 or Illustrator 10 dependent upon whats in your vector and which sites your submitting it to.

« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2010, 06:33 »
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PNG, while lossless, is a bitmap format, so no you won't be able to make a vector format out of it. Vector formats: EPS(think of it like a tiff with layers), SVG(this one is used for displaying on web, not sure about it), AI(adobe proprietary),CDR(corel draw), and probably some more.
EPS version 8 is the version that all agencies accept. It's the most compatible with all vector software. EPS does NOT support transparency, but DOES support gradients (both linear and radial). Not sure about how Inkscape saves them but Illustrator makes them right
EPS version 10 is a newer version accepted by: SS,FT,DT,BigStock,GLO(not sure about Veer & 123). EPS version 10 supports transparency, and some other things, can't say for sure, I don't use it.

Now for the illustration, not bad. The colors of the thing above the wheels(can't find a decent word for it now) is a bit too bright and detracts from the look of the illustration. Otherwise, be careful what effects you used on those tires, it may be a raster effect.

donding

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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2010, 09:07 »
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Yes  those fenders are a bit bright compared to the rest of it. That was because when the program locked up on me it automatically saved everything and I couldn't change it..or maybe I should say I didn't know how. Any way I just checked Inkscape and it does save in an EPS format but it doesn't say anything about level 8 or 10. How would I know what level it saves at? Also I don't know if those wheels are raster or not...if it's an EPS file would those effects not show up? I guess what I'm asking is why do I need to be careful if it's a raster?

« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2010, 09:52 »
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Well vector files can contain raster elements in them, but they won't be scalable. So you won't get an error while trying to save the EPS but it will get rejected at all agencies. Hmm wish I could help you on how to save them in EPS8 but I don't have Inkscape.Maybe someone who uses it can be of more help.
One way to determine the version of the eps is to open it with notepad. The first 2 lines of a eps 8 version would be like this:
%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
%%Creator: Adobe Illustrator(R) 8.0

donding

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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2010, 10:32 »
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Well vector files can contain raster elements in them, but they won't be scalable. So you won't get an error while trying to save the EPS but it will get rejected at all agencies. Hmm wish I could help you on how to save them in EPS8 but I don't have Inkscape.Maybe someone who uses it can be of more help.
One way to determine the version of the eps is to open it with notepad. The first 2 lines of a eps 8 version would be like this:
%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
%%Creator: Adobe Illustrator(R) 8.0


Here's what it says:
%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
%%Creator: cairo 1.8.6
I assume cairo is the creator of the software. I have Photoshop Elements so I think I'll open up the saved EPS file in there and then resave and see what it says. I was doing some research on the internet and somewhere I read not to use filters, which is what I used on the wheels and the drop down shadow of the door because they are raster. Do any of the agencies accept these saved as .jpg or would that be a waste of time because the purchaser couldn't use it? You can tell this is all really new to me.

LSD72

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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2010, 11:10 »
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Dont waste time with rasters on Istock.

One place for a bunch of good info in the SS Forum in the Illustrators section. Most of the Submission questions can be answered in their stickies. Any other questions, just ask and someone will help. Thats where I am picking up on most of my info.

« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2010, 14:13 »
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Check out the istock Illustrator manual. Looks like your eps is fine (Adobe 3.0) Raster effects are things like drop shadows.

LSD72

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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2010, 18:49 »
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Hell, I will put up my first attempt in Xara Xtreem. Took me about 30 minutes to figure out where the gradient tool was...lmao. Duh..its the drop down list. Just trying to learn controls and placement of things in here but this one might get submitted to see if everything is ok. Exported as a PDF and going to try to do eps 10 in CS2.

I really like Xara more than Illustrator right now. Easy but powerful so far.

PS.. sorry for the watermarks but you know how it goes.


« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2010, 19:42 »
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I, too, am trying my hand at vectors (seems to be going around!) and wanted a bit of feedback on my first attempts... Here they are!




LSD72

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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2010, 20:52 »
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I think I should have trademarked my birds....lol.  :P

« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2010, 21:22 »
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I thought that they were flying mustaches!!  ROFLMAO   :D

LSD72

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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2010, 21:33 »
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Flying Mouse Stashes !!! Mine are bigger. They carry more poop.

Anyways... had a problem getting CS2 to save to eps10. Friend with CS4 ...Yada Yada Yada... figured out the problem, its with my CS2. Got to try to unload it and reinstall it. So I am happy that I can use Xara and get it into the proper format to submit... as long as CS2 cooperates with me.

Now, I have a question. I didn't look but where do the Description and keywords go? On the eps? jpeg? both?  Right now I am just trying it on Shutterstock.

donding

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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2010, 21:51 »
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elvinstar...they both look great, much better than my little ol' VW. Hopefuly with time and patience I'll be able to get the hang of it. I got ALOT to learn.
Flying Mouse Stashes !!! Mine are bigger. They carry more poop.

Anyways... had a problem getting CS2 to save to eps10. Friend with CS4 ...Yada Yada Yada... figured out the problem, its with my CS2. Got to try to unload it and reinstall it. So I am happy that I can use Xara and get it into the proper format to submit... as long as CS2 cooperates with me.

Now, I have a question. I didn't look but where do the Description and keywords go? On the eps? jpeg? both?  Right now I am just trying it on Shutterstock.
LSD72..I like the Flying Mouse Stashes..lol.

« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2010, 22:11 »
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First first vector is my best seller (as raster) in DT. Made with a free version of Canvas I got from a magazine.

« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2010, 00:28 »
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If you put the IPTC data in on the jpg, it reads fine on shutterstock. Not sure about the rest. Will be investigating upload procedures/requirements this week.  ???

donding

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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2010, 09:04 »
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Madelaide...I could see where that would be a good seller...do those of you that do both photography as well as vectors find the vectors sell much better?


 

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