Quote from: vlassisd on November 16, 2017, 03:18

I made a big sale on Alamy today. Big for me anyway. The biggest so far. 45 euros.
How weird, we was talking with Alex about it the other day...
It's an editorial shot from the Carnival in Corfu. I wouldn't say is "premium" but hey, it's sold. Now the question is : I have it only on Alamy exclusive. If I had it on shutterstock as well you think whoever bought it would look on shutterstock to get it cheaper?
Questions, questions.

No one knows for sure. Personally I doubt it but you would probably get less from Alamy as its not then exclusive.

It very seldom happens that an Alamy buyer wants exclusivity. And although we can tick to indicate that a file is exclusive to Alamy, there is no evidence that a buyer can see that. Although questions have been asked on the forum, Alamy have not indicated whether that tick box is only for their use or whether it will be visible to buyers down the line.
At Alamy, it's all about the discount each buyer can negotiate, and nothing to do with the file*, just like iS/Getty. I've netted less on a few Alamy sales than even my current pisspoor iS average RPD  (usually, but not quite always via the opt-outable UKNS).
*Officially confirmed on here by the guy who used to post officially on Alamy's behalf.

Anyway, whether Alamy is intending down the line to charge more for exclusive files or whether they intend to make that info available to buyers in the hope that they won't look elsewhere, only they know, assuming they have more forward planning savvy than iS.

If I had it on shutterstock as well you think whoever bought it would look on shutterstock to get it cheaper?

Yassou Dimitris!

Congrats on the sale!

Following on what Sue and Paul have stated, I'm not sure whether there would be substantial risk of a potential buyer going for a (generally) cheaper option on micros with that particular image. In other words, whether being exclusive on Alamy would yield a greater return over the image's lifetime.

I have looked at the image in closer detail and although it's a nice moment, I wouldn't classify this image anywhere as close to "premium", so in my opinion, there's no harm in putting it everywhere and RF. I have put it as a close up on this message, I trust that is OK. You didn't ask for a critique so I won't offer one

I'm leaning more towards Steve's way of thinking, although there will be images which I'll refuse to put on micros...perhaps I'm being stubborn and thinking with my ego, but I'll sleep well at night

Hope you get some more sales and let's keep in touch.

P.s. I see you have shot some airplanes landing. I have regular sales of these, more so on micros than Alamy.
 

Wow, I'm was out and didn't have internet. So many replies. Thanks all of you guys trying to put me at the right path. Don't forget that I'm a noob, in stock and photography, so take it easy on me guys... 


"I have looked at the image in closer detail and although it's a nice moment, I wouldn't classify this image anywhere as close to "premium", so in my opinion, there's no harm in putting it everywhere and RF. I have put it as a close up on this message, I trust that is OK. You didn't ask for a critique so I won't offer one "

Thanks again Alex. As i said on my previous post i didn't think that this shot was "premium" nor is technically perfect. Is one of this moments that lighting changes, people move back and forward and you just take the shot. I didn't plan it. I only put it so i can learn from you guys the ins and outs of stock.
Another question is that this image was RF, if i had it as RM you think the price would be the same or different, or it just dictates that with RF i can sell elsewhere if that makes sense.
Ah and thanks for the tip about planes.
P.s.: I don't know why i couldn't quote properly from my phone. 

Quote from: vlassisd on November 16, 2017, 03:18

I have it only on Alamy exclusive. If I had it on shutterstock as well you think whoever bought it would look on shutterstock to get it cheaper?

As was said, nobody knows.

But from my own experience: I had big RF sales on Alamy with the same files being available on different microstock agencies (the biggest one $250 gross, so $125 my share).
And I also had several times zooms on Alamy followed on sales of the zoomed images on shutterstock / fotolia the same day or a day later - which is no proof, but might indicate that buyers look on Alamy and shop where they find the images cheaper.

Still, I put all my RF files both on Alamy and the micros.

Thanks dirkr,good info.

I did a month long analysis of all Alamy zooms in August and checked whether the same image had been sold on any of the other sites I submit to. In a nutshell, I didn't find any evidence that a buyer would search elsewhere. In fact, my thinking is that most buyers at Alamy have company accounts there and so why would they search elsewhere? The chance of a Google search ending up on Alamy with someone willing to join or start an account and license the image is pretty remote as well.

As a result, my current philosophy is to submit all images to all sites and let the cards fall where they do...

Here is the analysis:
http://www.backyardsilver.com/2017/09/alamy-buyers-search-elsewhere/

I also did an analysis of RF and RM pricing on Alamy earlier in the year if you are interested. Bottom line - they are pretty much the same for me:
http://www.backyardsilver.com/2017/06/decide-whether-submit-macro-sites/

Steve