Author Topic: Ive posted but it doesnt show (Read 7071 times)

seph · « **on:** March 02, 2014, 08:52 »

I posted some pics...but they aren't to be seen...whats up with that?

seph · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2014, 08:55 »

Ill try again.....

leaf · « **Reply #2 on:** March 02, 2014, 08:57 »

how were your trying to post them?

You can attach them to your post if you want with the 'attach' buttons at the bottom of the posting area...

Mantis · « **Reply #3 on:** March 02, 2014, 08:58 »

posting here on MSG?

seph · « **Reply #4 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:00 »

just tried to upload images for critique,,,,but they dont seem to show up? Can't figure out why,,,just tried to attach them to this post...and no luck....

seph · « **Reply #5 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:02 »

what the???....still no images.....Hey whats going on?

Mantis · « **Reply #6 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:03 »

Quote from: seph on March 02, 2014, 09:00

just tried to upload images for critique,,,,but they dont seem to show up? Can't figure out why,,,just tried to attach them to this post...and no luck....

For some reason I thought you had to have so many posts before you could attach images....Leaf?

seph · « **Reply #7 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:07 »

Just wanted to jump in, not "have" become a member of anything , upload some photos and get some quick feedback...and then get on with my Sunday. But no....I had to become a member, then reply from an email, design a password, write a post, upload photos....and then .... nothing but "two" questions

This cant be happening.....

seph · « **Reply #8 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:09 »

Ok....3 questions now.....LOL...

Mantis · « **Reply #9 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:09 »

Quote from: seph on March 02, 2014, 09:07

Just wanted to jump in, not "have" become a member of anything , upload some photos and get some quick feedback...and then get on with my Sunday. But no....I had to become a member, then reply from an email, design a password, write a post, upload photos....and then .... nothing but "two" questions This cant be happening.....

Do you have a dropbox account or some way to upload your images to a site? Then you can pose an inactive link here as a new member and then we can open images and take a peek.

seph · « **Reply #10 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:14 »

I'm suppose to be with guy with the questions...you guys are suppose to be the ones with the answers...now don't start role switching with me...I have a.d.a.s.....and I don't focus well. What were we talking about again? Oh yeah, I like I was saying I shave three times a week, got some lactose free milk for my cat yesterday, I play chess......

Mantis · « **Reply #11 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:16 »

Quote from: seph on March 02, 2014, 09:14

I'm suppose to be with guy with the questions...you guys are suppose to be the ones with the answers...now don't start role switching with me...I have a.d.a.s.....and I don't focus well. What were we talking about again? Oh yeah, I like I was saying I shave three times a week, got some lactose free milk for my cat yesterday, I play chess......

Ok bye bye. Now go suck a teet.

seph · « **Reply #12 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:18 »

Wait a minute...we have a winner!!!!..... What your name kiddo??? Mantis is it??? Well that's just a fine name, Mantis is. Shows character , boy....and I like when people have got character...now whats that you say? inactive link? I think I know what your on about....ok...i'll fix it up like that in a jiff....

seph · « **Reply #13 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:32 »

So now I have uploaded them to flikr...perhaps with the link I#ll get some feed back from the audience now,,,thanks for the patience, and for at least trying to understand my sense of humor...any way lets see if it works from a link

seph · « **Reply #14 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:37 »

Anyone still interested in maybe giving some feedback , after viewing photos via inactive link?

seph · « **Reply #15 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:41 »

http://www.flickr.com/photos/119158748@N03/12879610394/#in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/119158748@N03/12879209035/#in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/119158748@N03/12879299563/#in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/119158748@N03/12879216645/#in/photostream/

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #16 on:** March 02, 2014, 10:11 »

They're decent but I think you're shooting from a Flickr/social media or creative art perspective. "That's cool" is different from "that will sell". The idea for stock is that buyers look for images that help them advertise and promote a product or service. Would any of these help to do that? I'm not sure but I'd guess very little.

And then there's competition. Stock is flooded with ordinary images. So if you take a quick snap of local attractions so has everybody else. If you plan to sell anything it needs to stand out and be unique. To me these don't look unique. They look like quick walkaround snapshots.

For stock you'll probably need to make some changes to how you think commercially about what to shoot. If you like to shoot stuff like this you may want to consider POD art print websites.

seph · « **Reply #17 on:** March 02, 2014, 10:39 »

Well....I never...to think he would call my work just "decent"(still just joking don't get yer panties in a bunch like Mantis did and runoff)...I slaved behind the lens and all I get is :"To me these don't seem unique"

??....THIS WORLD IS TOO TRAGIC!!!.....No LMAO......these are intended for poster art and some for architectural brochures...for stock I think I would stick strictly to 3d images and models, much more freedom and flexibility for creation and also better lighting possibilities.... thanks for the feedback

JPSDK · « **Reply #18 on:** March 02, 2014, 10:45 »

do you want image critique or what?
In relation to microstock or what?

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #19 on:** March 02, 2014, 10:46 »

Quote from: JPSDK on March 02, 2014, 10:45

do you want image critique or what?
In relation to microstock or what?

Right. What are you looking for here? These are just snapshots of windows and doors and building elements you found around you, not shot particularly interestingly or composed for stock.

fritz · « **Reply #20 on:** March 02, 2014, 10:46 »

Want honest opinion - none of them will work on MS (LCV), you have to be more unique and original if you want to have success.
#1. Ask yourself who and why would buy your images?

seph · « **Reply #21 on:** March 02, 2014, 10:53 »

Oh....okay.

seph · « **Reply #22 on:** March 02, 2014, 11:03 »

For micro stock I think I would pick an area like sport or business and just create 3d models and graphics for that specific area.....seems it would be the only way to stay unique and fresh with flexible creations that are reusable in other graphics....ya dig?

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #23 on:** March 02, 2014, 11:36 »

Quote from: seph on March 02, 2014, 11:03

For micro stock I think I would pick an area like sport or business and just create 3d models and graphics for that specific area.....seems it would be the only way to stay unique and fresh with flexible creations that are reusable in other graphics....ya dig?

Actually, you may find that harder, as anyone in the world (china, india, russia, etc.) can sit down and do renders 24 hours a day. Do some searches on the sites for "3d business" etc, to see what is there.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #24 on:** March 02, 2014, 12:17 »

Quote from: seph on March 02, 2014, 10:39

....these are intended for poster art and some for architectural brochures...

I wouldn't purchase these as posters and I'm not sure what "architectural brochures" are, but I have my doubts about the usefulness of these images. The composition isn't interesting and the lighting's poor plus the subject is one that is in very high supply. Not a good mix, IMO

seph · « **Reply #25 on:** March 02, 2014, 12:24 »

I think it all depends on your style and approach....as well as subject matter and who you search as your customers. Business changes on the "daily highway" very quickly. Subject matter and content desires rise and change with that "highway" effect. If one is creative with, as I stated above, "who you search as your customers" I think then working solely with3d graphics and models has its advantages in keeping up with the pace on that "highway" that business so very quickly operates on.

seph · « **Reply #26 on:** March 02, 2014, 12:30 »

Nice to hear some feedback. Gets some opinions and critiques..All very helpful indeed.

Thank you

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #27 on:** March 02, 2014, 12:40 »

Quote from: seph on March 02, 2014, 12:24

I think it all depends on your style and approach....as well as subject matter and who you search as your customers. Business changes on the "daily highway" very quickly. Subject matter and content desires rise and change with that "highway" effect. If one is creative with, as I stated above, "who you search as your customers" I think then working solely with3d graphics and models has its advantages in keeping up with the pace on that "highway" that business so very quickly operates on.

Ummm, ok.

seph · « **Reply #28 on:** March 02, 2014, 12:41 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on March 02, 2014, 11:36

Quote from: seph on March 02, 2014, 11:03
For micro stock I think I would pick an area like sport or business and just create 3d models and graphics for that specific area.....seems it would be the only way to stay unique and fresh with flexible creations that are reusable in other graphics....ya dig?

Actually, you may find that harder, as anyone in the world (china, india, russia, etc.) can sit down and do renders 24 hours a day. Do some searches on the sites for "3d business" etc, to see what is there.

Only one of these photos has been manipulated, the rest are all with out any post photoshop or lightroom enhancements...they are raw material....other than the sclupture one which has had a street lamp, a leaf and tears from both faces removed has not had any lightroom enhancements either...they are all basically raw material.

JPSDK · « **Reply #29 on:** March 02, 2014, 12:46 »

seph · « **Reply #30 on:** March 02, 2014, 12:54 »

Excuse me???.....I mean what? this is what you call critique...answering with things like " Um...ok" and "nuts""..whats that suppose to mean? ..hmmmm.....you say that as if to say my opinion sucks. That's not a very nice way to give critique now is it? .....and please, don't waste my time with 2 word comments like "Um Ok"...and "nuts"..if that is the extent of your creativity I don't think it's a wise idea to be giving advice on creative matters?

do you?

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #31 on:** March 02, 2014, 12:58 »

Lol ...

(Is that one word or three?)

seph · « **Reply #32 on:** March 02, 2014, 13:25 »

" that"is lacking creativity and flare as well as concept, is what that is....keep it creative, keep it funny, keep me amused or buzz off.

seph · « **Reply #33 on:** March 02, 2014, 13:35 »

microstock group...wow,,,this is turning out to better than I expected...this forum rocks!... Its like a goldmine. Cant wait to write a review. Thanks fellas!

deepdreamer · « **Reply #34 on:** March 02, 2014, 13:41 »

Quote from: seph on March 02, 2014, 13:35

microstock group...wow,,,this is turning out to better than I expected...this forum rocks!... Its like a goldmine. Cant wait to write a review. Thanks fellas!

Nice to meet you, too!

seph · « **Reply #35 on:** March 02, 2014, 13:50 »

I love all the feed back...it's really helpful. Thanks

amabu · « **Reply #36 on:** March 02, 2014, 13:53 »

don´t feed the troll

seph · « **Reply #37 on:** March 02, 2014, 14:02 »

That's was at least an attempt at being creative. As meager as it was....... So now this is turning into a witch hunt? I'm a troll? Geez.....criticizing my art in a creative fashion is what I expected...but being out right rude for particular reason ?? (although credit given for your meager attempt at being creative)....thanks

seph · « **Reply #38 on:** March 02, 2014, 14:07 »

Moderator?

??... Is that allowed? Not being creative in your critique on one artistic expression? Or am I just being over picky as usual?

seph · « **Reply #39 on:** March 02, 2014, 14:08 »

I am a mason ya know....we can be fussy about details.

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #40 on:** March 02, 2014, 14:09 »

Oh okay I get it now. My apologies. I misunderstood. If those are out-of-camera files they're awesome. You're phenomenal. You have real talent.

Colette · « **Reply #41 on:** March 02, 2014, 14:10 »

The only thing people see here are 4 of your photos and those writing reactions are experienced contributors.
When they tell you that these images have low commercial value, you can believe them.
It means: The images can be technically perfect, creative and artistic, but they will probably barely have any sales.

But if you don’t believe them , why don’t you try for yourself to find out?
After having them all submitted and get accepted by a lot of agencies and being sold by hundreds, you can come back and tell everyone here that they were totally wrong.

Start with Mostphotos. They have no reviews and accept everything. Some people there are giving likes to your images. These people have mostly no idea about the commercial value of images, so it is not an indication for your sales on other sites, but getting likes is allways nice, isn’t it?

seph · « **Reply #42 on:** March 02, 2014, 14:30 »

Are you serious??? ? C'mon man,... a serious reply, for real though? I mean...I'm touched...and am deeply gratified for the very intuitive response and the time taken (to copy and paste it again) to pass it on to me, thank you. I never questioned any of the credentials from any of the patrons, I only questioned the value and creativity of their opinions and critiques. I would have not come to this forum without having done my own research on the subject. Which lead me to this forum in the first place...this forum is supposedly a tool for beginner and novice level artist and photographers/ image developers as well as for advanced artist and bla bla bla....So to get only one proper answer back after a very long day of forum chat. I must admit, I'm a bit surprised at the quality of the responses from these "experienced contributors" as you so proudly put it....again thanks for the (one real serious) response.

seph · « **Reply #43 on:** March 02, 2014, 14:39 »

Paulie Walnuts....You win the "Best attempt at being a sarcastic funny guy" award.....(with merits in creativity)......ah Paulie, why cant people be more like you and me ?...They just don't have that...spazazz....you know? That feel that its a duty to try and at least wiggle their little fingers in the direction of creativity. I know...I know...its been a long road for you, but if you keep it up every day, YOU WILL learn to type more than 3 four word sentences in a row. as I said merits for your very brave attempt at being(well shall I say) witty.....1/2 a thumb up on that

seph · « **Reply #44 on:** March 02, 2014, 15:21 »

Colette, as of now you are in good standings for the " most realism and usefulness in a response" award.... although it was lacking creativity and (as I like to put it) spazazz....it was still the most useful information that I have gathered in using this forum today (thank you). But the day is not over yet sister!... Pauliewalnuts may "pull-a- thumb out" and put together a string of words (with proper punctuation, not just periods) surprise us all....(but that's doubtful)...But its not "Miller time" just yet sister...who knows who else can come up with a response and maybe even be a bit more creative in their approach and then use lose baby....only time can tell. (finger are crossed Colette, toes too...)

Ron · « **Reply #45 on:** March 02, 2014, 15:37 »

You have gotten a ton of good feedback, what else do you want to hear?

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on March 02, 2014, 10:11

They're decent but I think you're shooting from a Flickr/social media or creative art perspective. "That's cool" is different from "that will sell". The idea for stock is that buyers look for images that help them advertise and promote a product or service. Would any of these help to do that? I'm not sure but I'd guess very little.

And then there's competition. Stock is flooded with ordinary images. So if you take a quick snap of local attractions so has everybody else. If you plan to sell anything it needs to stand out and be unique. To me these don't look unique. They look like quick walkaround snapshots.

For stock you'll probably need to make some changes to how you think commercially about what to shoot. If you like to shoot stuff like this you may want to consider POD art print websites.

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on March 02, 2014, 10:46

What are you looking for here?
These are just snapshots of windows and doors and building elements you found around you, not shot particularly interestingly or composed for stock.

Quote from: fritz on March 02, 2014, 10:46

Want honest opinion - none of them will work on MS (LCV), you have to be more unique and original if you want to have success.
#1. Ask yourself who and why would buy your images?

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 02, 2014, 12:17

I wouldn't purchase these as posters and I'm not sure what "architectural brochures" are, but I have my doubts about the usefulness of these images. The composition isn't interesting and the lighting's poor plus the subject is one that is in very high supply. Not a good mix, IMO

Quote from: Colette on March 02, 2014, 14:10

The only thing people see here are 4 of your photos and those writing reactions are experienced contributors.
When they tell you that these images have low commercial value, you can believe them.
It means: The images can be technically perfect, creative and artistic, but they will probably barely have any sales.

All of them say the same thing, so there must be some truth in the critiques. Take advantage of what was said, there is nothing more to add.

seph · « **Reply #46 on:** March 02, 2014, 16:02 »

And all of them who have given a decent (time taking) critique have became a critique (from me )on their critique (I'm getting dizzy)as well as my thanks and gratitude. There were some responses that I addressed in a colorful fashion because those particular responses lacked creativity and respect. But there is no reason to accuse me of saying that I claim to have not become any useful information.... as I stated before, I only questioned the value and creativity lacking in those particular responses ( Geez , now its a court room) that were really very rude and only a waste of MY time (as any individual would). So to be honest Ronnie , ol boy...your response is really very useless, all you've done is took some else's work and re-posted it telling me something I already knew rather than coming up with something creative of your own to express..., using no creativity what so ever. You Ronnie, fail completely,..You use someone else's work, didn't incorporate creativity in any fashion, and the information you used was already known....How do I get through to these people

Paulie??? c'mon man,..Paulie???...what'd you guys do to Paulie?

seph · « **Reply #47 on:** March 02, 2014, 16:15 »

Oh, by the way,... thanks Ron...at least for taking the time to leave a presence..

seph · « **Reply #48 on:** March 02, 2014, 16:26 »

Well now its time for me to buzz off....I appreciate all those who took time to read and respond to my post, and who at least tried to give me some useful feed back.,,, Sometimes its its hard for others to digest what I write or how its written by me, so I apologize for any misunderstandings that may have occurred do to my vivid and rough sense of humor.

Regards, Seph

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