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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2016, 12:32 »
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You are all entitled to your opinions re: Stocksy.....thanks for the love.   ;)


« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2016, 20:43 »
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Stocksy has hard limit of number of co-op members, that's why it's getting tough to get in now as there are not many spots left. But that doesn't mean we won't accept anymore new photographers because it will come to a point where we have to let go of folks who have been dormant or passive co-op members and fill them with new members. But those spots will most likely given to photographers who can offer something different and fill the holes in library, not diluting them; so it's not due to elitist reason. I'm not in the position to share much. Co-op runs differently from the normal agencies where the management can make the calls without getting approval from other photographers. Any major business decisions made in Stocksy needs votes from the co-op members that includes the co-op membership limit.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2016, 21:20 by onepointfour »

« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2016, 21:08 »
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Indie, I come across your work many times in 500px. I find your work is very similar to 2 other very popular photographers in Stocksy, and one of them from your city and I'm sure you know them well. Each time I see similar portrait in any viral social media post, I always try to guess which of the 3 of you take the photo.

Have you considered Trevillion and Arcangel?

Update: Oh, just saw your port in Trevillion. Stunning work!
« Last Edit: April 12, 2016, 21:24 by onepointfour »

« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2016, 21:24 »
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2016, 03:58 »
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Indie, I come across your work many times in 500px. I find your work is very similar to 2 other very popular photographers in Stocksy, and one of them from your city and I'm sure you know them well. Each time I see similar portrait in any viral social media post, I always try to guess which of the 3 of you take the photo.

Have you considered Trevillion and Arcangel?

Update: Oh, just saw your port in Trevillion. Stunning work!

Tnx again to all of you but I think this could be the main reason. Yes there are few of us in the same city and we basically grew up together and we are all more or less good friends, so it's no wonder we have a similar style. We also live in small country where you can name just a few models (in a fashion industry that does not exist) so it's extremely hard to find new faces, that is why we usually work with the same models   :-[

Anyway, I'm planning to relocate soon(to another country) because I'm somehow stuck in here and I can't make further progress with such a limitation. I'm working on it for the last year and a half so I believe there is a good reason for everything that happens to me (at least it's always been that way so far :) )


« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2016, 04:30 »
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Indie, I come across your work many times in 500px. I find your work is very similar to 2 other very popular photographers in Stocksy, and one of them from your city and I'm sure you know them well. Each time I see similar portrait in any viral social media post, I always try to guess which of the 3 of you take the photo.

Have you considered Trevillion and Arcangel?

Update: Oh, just saw your port in Trevillion. Stunning work!

Tnx again to all of you but I think this could be the main reason. Yes there are few of us in the same city and we basically grew up together and we are all more or less good friends, so it's no wonder we have a similar style. We also live in small country where you can name just a few models (in a fashion industry that does not exist) so it's extremely hard to find new faces, that is why we usually work with the same models   :-[

Anyway, I'm planning to relocate soon(to another country) because I'm somehow stuck in here and I can't make further progress with such a limitation. I'm working on it for the last year and a half so I believe there is a good reason for everything that happens to me (at least it's always been that way so far :) )

Model like Nejla H, no one in the right mind will reject the opportunity to shoot her. I would too if I happen to be in your city :D.
Best of luck with your relocation, I'm sure it will bring you more opportunities.

Shelma1

« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2016, 05:39 »
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Stocksy has hard limit of number of co-op members, that's why it's getting tough to get in now as there are not many spots left. But that doesn't mean we won't accept anymore new photographers because it will come to a point where we have to let go of folks who have been dormant or passive co-op members and fill them with new members. But those spots will most likely given to photographers who can offer something different and fill the holes in library, not diluting them; so it's not due to elitist reason.

Well, there you go.

« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2016, 12:04 »
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The answer is simple: your images are too good for them.  These are correctly exposed, correctly lighted, nice images. Really nice images!
Good images are boring for them. They already have some... so now they need trendy, surprising, spontaneously taken images. Different looking images. Much worse images then yours. Buy an iphone  and forget about lighting and composition and they will let you in. At least this is my impression while I am browsing Stocksy.

« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2016, 13:57 »
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The answer is simple: your images are too good for them.  These are correctly exposed, correctly lighted, nice images. Really nice images!
Good images are boring for them. They already have some... so now they need trendy, surprising, spontaneously taken images. Different looking images. Much worse images then yours. Buy an iphone  and forget about lighting and composition and they will let you in. At least this is my impression while I am browsing Stocksy.

LMAO, ... and pump up the ISO for noise the size of giant golf balls , clipped highlights and blocked shadows..
like you get from those camera - clubs exhibitions that sell framed images for 400 bucks ;D ;D ;D

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2016, 14:41 »
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LMAO, ... and pump up the ISO for noise the size of giant golf balls , clipped highlights and blocked shadows..
like you get from those camera - clubs exhibitions that sell framed images for 400 bucks ;D ;D ;D
Reeeeeeally? Where are you based?
In that case, we're the mugs.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2016, 14:48 by ShadySue »

« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2016, 14:53 »
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The answer is simple: your images are too good for them.  These are correctly exposed, correctly lighted, nice images. Really nice images!
Good images are boring for them. They already have some... so now they need trendy, surprising, spontaneously taken images. Different looking images. Much worse images then yours. Buy an iphone  and forget about lighting and composition and they will let you in. At least this is my impression while I am browsing Stocksy.

agree...i wanted to apply , but I'm mostly editorial and travel and don't see they will need me, my goal right now are mopstrlfy enter off set and gallery stock for rm, then i'm done considering that i am also with alamy for rm and i'm a contributor at redux pictures for editorial serious photography.

« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2016, 15:00 »
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i don't want to be critic but all this portfolio looks really the same...pale skin tones, same pose same color...i mean stocks is full of this style, flickr is full especially russian artist, 500 px is full....when i read " my style"....im not harsh but this is the style of everybody in instagram, in any hipsy stock agency.. i don't see nothing original. they are good done but nothing creative. anybody really can do this in any corner of the world right now.

« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2016, 00:41 »
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i don't want to be critic but all this portfolio looks really the same...pale skin tones, same pose same color...i mean stocks is full of this style, flickr is full especially russian artist, 500 px is full....when i read " my style"....im not harsh but this is the style of everybody in instagram, in any hipsy stock agency.. i don't see nothing original. they are good done but nothing creative. anybody really can do this in any corner of the world right now.

I wouldn't like to see you critical and harsh :-X

« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2016, 03:07 »
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i don't want to be critic but all this portfolio looks really the same...pale skin tones, same pose same color...i mean stocks is full of this style, flickr is full especially russian artist, 500 px is full....when i read " my style"....im not harsh but this is the style of everybody in instagram, in any hipsy stock agency.. i don't see nothing original. they are good done but nothing creative. anybody really can do this in any corner of the world right now.


I can agree with some things you said, but keep in mind that I'm still young and new in photography, so my current goal is to master all technical stuff first (lightning-pre and post production, photo montage, combination of photo and cgi etc), so there will be time for other things, but first things first.
And this is where I can't agree with you, because not anybody can do this, and there are actually small number of people who mastered all those skills.

http://www.jelenabalic.com/beauty - This girl is example of how I see my work will be in a few years...  (yes it's fashion, beauty and commercial but I like it and it's not easy as you think)

So we're gone too far.. I just wanted to put my other work somewhere and... something that I do when I'm walking down the streets, or travel, or catching random moments with my friends... because I'm aways photographing something. That's why I'm here asking for your thoughts and thanks to everyone who shared their opinion :)

Ps. I don't know how you managed to put together so called "russian" style and hipsy - totally different styles.

« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2016, 03:43 »
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The answer is simple: your images are too good for them.  These are correctly exposed, correctly lighted, nice images. Really nice images!
Good images are boring for them. They already have some... so now they need trendy, surprising, spontaneously taken images. Different looking images. Much worse images then yours. Buy an iphone  and forget about lighting and composition and they will let you in. At least this is my impression while I am browsing Stocksy.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tnx
I have a bunch of those "worse" images, that's why I applied to stocksy, hoping I'll put them somewhere where I can have some use of them..  8) ;D

No really, I have a lot of those artsy photos because it's something I love to do too, but it's  just not something that I want to show in my portfolio. I enjoy doing it but it's not where you can show your skills.

Maybe it's better they rejected me..just the other day a friend (who is already at stocksy) told me they rejected some of his latest work with an explanation "too good" so I caught him wondering around how to make his photos less good..and it's becoming his style now..I think it's not good.

« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2016, 05:30 »
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http://www.jelenabalic.com/beauty - This girl is example of how I see my work will be in a few years...  (yes it's fashion, beauty and commercial but I like it and it's not easy as you think)


Again, that all looks exactly the same to me.  Easy light set up, simple head and shoulders posing.  It's more showing the talent of a make up artist than anything else.  I'd shoot for more creative things, if I was setting a goal.

« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2016, 06:28 »
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i don't want to be critic but all this portfolio looks really the same...pale skin tones, same pose same color...i mean stocks is full of this style, flickr is full especially russian artist, 500 px is full....when i read " my style"....im not harsh but this is the style of everybody in instagram, in any hipsy stock agency.. i don't see nothing original. they are good done but nothing creative. anybody really can do this in any corner of the world right now.


I can agree with some things you said, but keep in mind that I'm still young and new in photography, so my current goal is to master all technical stuff first (lightning-pre and post production, photo montage, combination of photo and cgi etc), so there will be time for other things, but first things first.
And this is where I can't agree with you, because not anybody can do this, and there are actually small number of people who mastered all those skills.

http://www.jelenabalic.com/beauty - This girl is example of how I see my work will be in a few years...  (yes it's fashion, beauty and commercial but I like it and it's not easy as you think)

So we're gone too far.. I just wanted to put my other work somewhere and... something that I do when I'm walking down the streets, or travel, or catching random moments with my friends... because I'm aways photographing something. That's why I'm here asking for your thoughts and thanks to everyone who shared their opinion :)

Ps. I don't know how you managed to put together so called "russian" style and hipsy - totally different styles.


don't wanted to sound ruse, you are very good photographer and has a clearly a good tendency to shoot girl....your photos are well done, but what i'm saying is that there is an overflow of this style in every website, stocks being the last.
especially from eastern europe and balkans. what i 'm saying is there is such a market in the world to fulfill the economical need s of all those people?
i live often in kiev and i know hundred of young people with portfolio like yours. in eastern part of europe building such portfolio is pretty easy. in my opinion you are good should go for more direct approach to your field, beauty and  fashion. but with more complex lighting scheme and pose.

in addiction you said you want relocate...but where? pay attention that big cities are full  of photographer. i suggest u go asia right now to have chance.
looking the girl you posted the link, she's clearly good but looking her publication she has local success, most of time this success come for personal preference not skill...had she gone to milan for example i doubt she would have chance to shoot fro grazia or elle italy for example. so even relocation right now is very complex. i don't know how big is your city and what opportunity u have but maybe just going to capital of your country could be a good idea.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2016, 06:51 by jonbull »

« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2016, 06:37 »
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i don't want to be critic but all this portfolio looks really the same...pale skin tones, same pose same color...i mean stocks is full of this style, flickr is full especially russian artist, 500 px is full....when i read " my style"....im not harsh but this is the style of everybody in instagram, in any hipsy stock agency.. i don't see nothing original. they are good done but nothing creative. anybody really can do this in any corner of the world right now.


I can agree with some things you said, but keep in mind that I'm still young and new in photography, so my current goal is to master all technical stuff first (lightning-pre and post production, photo montage, combination of photo and cgi etc), so there will be time for other things, but first things first.
And this is where I can't agree with you, because not anybody can do this, and there are actually small number of people who mastered all those skills.

http://www.jelenabalic.com/beauty - This girl is example of how I see my work will be in a few years...  (yes it's fashion, beauty and commercial but I like it and it's not easy as you think)

So we're gone too far.. I just wanted to put my other work somewhere and... something that I do when I'm walking down the streets, or travel, or catching random moments with my friends... because I'm aways photographing something. That's why I'm here asking for your thoughts and thanks to everyone who shared their opinion :)

Ps. I don't know how you managed to put together so called "russian" style and hipsy - totally different styles.


i mean russian to say eastern eruope...microstock is overflown by russsian and ukrainian photographer.
as far as that photographer from croatia, she's good but nothing i 'd say ..wow...nothing could be easier to replicate.
for me beati shots must be creative, tridimensional.

http://art-dept.com/photography

take for example this book of beauty

http://art-dept.com/photography/arthur-belebeau/beauty/viewall

can't u see the difference?

i suggest you aim to that level.-

N.B: the fashion book of that carotin photo are better than beauty and really pop because of color. probably most of those shots wouldn't have been accepted by stocks.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2016, 06:48 by jonbull »

« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2016, 06:39 »
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i don't want to be critic but all this portfolio looks really the same...pale skin tones, same pose same color...i mean stocks is full of this style, flickr is full especially russian artist, 500 px is full....when i read " my style"....im not harsh but this is the style of everybody in instagram, in any hipsy stock agency.. i don't see nothing original. they are good done but nothing creative. anybody really can do this in any corner of the world right now.


I can agree with some things you said, but keep in mind that I'm still young and new in photography, so my current goal is to master all technical stuff first (lightning-pre and post production, photo montage, combination of photo and cgi etc), so there will be time for other things, but first things first.
And this is where I can't agree with you, because not anybody can do this, and there are actually small number of people who mastered all those skills.

http://www.jelenabalic.com/beauty - This girl is example of how I see my work will be in a few years...  (yes it's fashion, beauty and commercial but I like it and it's not easy as you think)

So we're gone too far.. I just wanted to put my other work somewhere and... something that I do when I'm walking down the streets, or travel, or catching random moments with my friends... because I'm aways photographing something. That's why I'm here asking for your thoughts and thanks to everyone who shared their opinion :)

Ps. I don't know how you managed to put together so called "russian" style and hipsy - totally different styles.


last i add that the secret what makes a photographer really stand is the master of shadow and light, even in beauty. that makes tridimensional. beauty shot like the one you show are these days too common,. one beauty dish, maybe a reflector, tons of pp to smooth skin and color..

« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2016, 10:39 »
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Hey Indie, impressive portfolio. I really liked looking at your retouching section but a lot of those retouched photos loses the pink flesh tone that makes the images colder to me somehow. Maybe the reviewers picked up on that also?

JaenStock

  • Bad images can sell.
« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2016, 16:36 »
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Indie cool images. Maybe the rejection was for a clear skin retouching or some some pictures look very processed. I dont know, i havent stocksy style.
Of course, your photos have exceptional quality, maybe is style question.


 

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