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collis

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« on: September 01, 2011, 19:53 »
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Hello Microstockgrouper's  :)

I thought I'd stop in and report on how PhotoDune is going. I wrote up some stuff for our own PD forums and thought MSG might like to see it too!

In previous threads there has been a lot of questions raised over our pricing and rates, and as I've mentioned we're planning to re-evaluate both after a few months of being live. In the meantime, here's how PhotoDune is going!


Things Going Well


And one that I'm sure Leaf in particular will be interested in: Microstockgroup.com sent over 1000 visits!


Things We Need to Work On

  • Interestingly extended license sales are super tiny, despite the low pricing. This is interesting because the main driver of the low pricing is higher sales, so as I mentioned above this will go into our retro discussions when we hit the first quarter mark
  • We're learning fast about how fast items pile up for review :-) Right now our review queue sits at about 5000 with 2000 being processed per day, meaning an average of about 2.5 working days to get a file approved. This is pretty so-so and we're working to improve this!
  • We have a bunch of search and interface improvements that are still slowly rolling out. Of course this is something that will continue to the end of time really :-)



And finally we're starting to ramp up our marketing push slowly but surely, so I hope I'll be able to stop in next month and report more stats for anyone here interested  ;)


collis

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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2011, 20:16 »
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Oooo, I've been poking about MSG doing searches for PhotoDune and Envato and found the August Earnings thread where several members are reporting PhotoDune climbing the ranks of their portfolio!

I don't know if it's totally representative or if there are other MSG'rs who just haven't reported in yet, but still ... Yay!  8)

« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2011, 21:19 »
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Thanks for the update Collis, I'm guessing I speak for more than myself by saying I really appreciate the transparency.

I did have good sales at PhotoDune last month and have high hopes for a bright future there.  That being said, I think I'll have to enjoy my 'celebrity status' of 7th place while it lasts.  I don't think I'll be able to hang on long ;)

collis

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2011, 21:29 »
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Thanks for the update Collis, I'm guessing I speak for more than myself by saying I really appreciate the transparency.

I did have good sales at PhotoDune last month and have high hopes for a bright future there.  That being said, I think I'll have to enjoy my 'celebrity status' of 7th place while it lasts.  I don't think I'll be able to hang on long ;)

hehe true! I think you should milk it for all it's worth. Maybe start referring to yourself as one of the top ten photographers in the world :-) Don't bother explain that that's according to a tiny microstock marketplace! Top ten is the important part!!!!  ;D

« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2011, 21:59 »
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Hey, I'm 17th!  And only two spots behind Lisa!  Granted, she started after me and passed me in her first month.  But I can live with that.

« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2011, 22:13 »
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Thanks for the update Collis, I'm guessing I speak for more than myself by saying I really appreciate the transparency.

I did have good sales at PhotoDune last month and have high hopes for a bright future there.  That being said, I think I'll have to enjoy my 'celebrity status' of 7th place while it lasts.  I don't think I'll be able to hang on long ;)

hehe true! I think you should milk it for all it's worth. Maybe start referring to yourself as one of the top ten photographers in the world :-) Don't bother explain that that's according to a tiny microstock marketplace! Top ten is the important part!!!!  ;D

If I can stay on page 1 I'll be pleased.

lisafx

« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2011, 22:26 »
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Hey, I'm 17th!  And only two spots behind Lisa!  Granted, she started after me and passed me in her first month.  But I can live with that.

Nice to see we are in such good company!

Thanks for posting the info Collis!

I have to say that of all the new sites I have tried, PhotoDune is BY FAR the best selling.  I am really impressed with the way you guys run the site, and with the sales!   :D

collis

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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 00:10 »
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I have to say that of all the new sites I have tried, PhotoDune is BY FAR the best selling.  I am really impressed with the way you guys run the site, and with the sales!   :D


Hey Lisa, I'm really thrilled to hear that! We were really excited to have you on board so early on!

Meanwhiles, I've been meaning to write to tell you this, but one of your photos became a sort of cult hit here in our melbourne HQ office. It's the one called Romancing the Toes. I'm not sure how it began, but one of the designers found it and printed a copy to frame it and put it on his desk, then the team decided that it should be the top seller for the week and all started depositing money to buy it, then we had an office pool competition and the framed picture became a part of the trophy .. you can actually see a photo of the pool comp winner James holding the trophy and framed picture. And finally, the framed picture is now the first thing people see when they arrive at our offices out of the elevators in the foyer.

Its all (very) strange, but (very) true! Our office has a very quirky sense of humor :) If you ever visit Melbourne, Australia you have to come and visit, and I will introduce you as the photographer behind Romancing the Toes  8)

Anyhow I thought you might be wondering why one photo had such a big run on sales numbers vs the normal sales pattern of a couple of sales per item per month!!

collis

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microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 09:47 »
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I appreciated Collin's clear replies here.

I submitted my first batch: all accepted except architectural pictures, all rejected - reason: "Please check if there is a Property Release required for this building and architecture. In commercial use, any sale of an interior or exterior of certain buildings breaches the agreement of commercial use. However for Editorial this would not be a problem. Please check and submit again. Thanks!"

Two rejected pictures where the Houses of Parliament in Westminster and Tower Bridge, one the Brandenburger Tor. All old buildings, all usually accepted by all sites. The one in Germany is even weirder since there's Panoramafreiheit (even modern buildings are acceptable there if picture is taken from publicly accessible place).

I don't usually complain about specific rejections on a public forum but since PhotoDune is very new and I am just starting to submit to this site, this is more a general question than a complaint: what is your official position towards exterior architectural pictures of old buildings taken from publicly accessible space?

The rejection says "Please check if there is a Property Release required": should I just resubmit with a note that it's not required? even in that case, it's a lot of work; or should I mark all as editorial? (even if it's not usually the case)

See sample rejected picture below.
My port is 70% architecture, if you don't accept it I'd better stop uploading completely.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2011, 11:45 by microstockphoto.co.uk »

lisafx

« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 12:55 »
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I have to say that of all the new sites I have tried, PhotoDune is BY FAR the best selling.  I am really impressed with the way you guys run the site, and with the sales!   :D


Hey Lisa, I'm really thrilled to hear that! We were really excited to have you on board so early on!

Meanwhiles, I've been meaning to write to tell you this, but one of your photos became a sort of cult hit here in our melbourne HQ office. It's the one called Romancing the Toes. I'm not sure how it began, but one of the designers found it and printed a copy to frame it and put it on his desk, then the team decided that it should be the top seller for the week and all started depositing money to buy it, then we had an office pool competition and the framed picture became a part of the trophy .. you can actually see a photo of the pool comp winner James holding the trophy and framed picture. And finally, the framed picture is now the first thing people see when they arrive at our offices out of the elevators in the foyer.

Its all (very) strange, but (very) true! Our office has a very quirky sense of humor :) If you ever visit Melbourne, Australia you have to come and visit, and I will introduce you as the photographer behind Romancing the Toes  8)

Anyhow I thought you might be wondering why one photo had such a big run on sales numbers vs the normal sales pattern of a couple of sales per item per month!!


OMG!!!  Absolutely hilarious!!  Congrats to the LUCKY winner! ROFL!

I had wondered why that photo was the top seller for a time.  My husband (the model) and I had speculated that maybe PhotoDune was the stock site of choice for foot fetishists.  ;D

I can see my stuff will fit right in there at Envato.  I will certainly look you guys up if I ever get to Australia, and I will be sure to bring my famous hubby and my celebrated toes.   I have a strange, quirky sense of humor too, in case you hadn't noticed... ;)
« Last Edit: September 02, 2011, 12:59 by lisafx »

« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2011, 13:08 »
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...I had wondered why that photo was the top seller for a time.  My husband (the model) and I had speculated that maybe PhotoDune was the stock site of choice for foot fetishists.  ;D

I can see my stuff will fit right in there at Envato.  I will certainly look you guys up if I ever get to Australia, and I will be sure to bring my famous hubby and my celebrated toes. ...

When I first saw those pictures, I wondered in passing whose toes those were - your husband is an amazing model, but I couldn't imagine such an intimate shot with you as photographer and someone else's toes. So when you say you don't like to be in front of the camera, your toes have an exemption :)

What a fun story!

RT


« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 13:11 »
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Oh Lisa, I wondered what all the fuss was about in another thread and know I've found out why and looked at the photo, and I'm just about to have my dinner :P

lisafx

« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 13:16 »
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Oh Lisa, I wondered what all the fuss was about in another thread and know I've found out why and looked at the photo, and I'm just about to have my dinner :P

Hope we didn't ruin your dinner, LOL!

@JoAnn, yeah, I make an exception for toes.  Feet in bedroom slippers too.  Nobody else is getting their toes anywhere near my hubby's face!  ;)

« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 15:02 »
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That is too funny!  :D

collis

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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2011, 16:18 »
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I don't usually complain about specific rejections on a public forum but since PhotoDune is very new and I am just starting to submit to this site, this is more a general question than a complaint: what is your official position towards exterior architectural pictures of old buildings taken from publicly accessible space?

The rejection says "Please check if there is a Property Release required": should I just resubmit with a note that it's not required? even in that case, it's a lot of work; or should I mark all as editorial? (even if it's not usually the case)

See sample rejected picture below.
My port is 70% architecture, if you don't accept it I'd better stop uploading completely.

Hi there! Good questions, I have to admit I don't know the answer myself, so I'll ask Jarel our review manager if he can stop in to the forums and answer, shouldn't be too long. Thanks for your patience!

collis

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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2011, 16:20 »
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OMG!!!  Absolutely hilarious!!  Congrats to the LUCKY winner! ROFL!

I had wondered why that photo was the top seller for a time.  My husband (the model) and I had speculated that maybe PhotoDune was the stock site of choice for foot fetishists.  ;D

I can see my stuff will fit right in there at Envato.  I will certainly look you guys up if I ever get to Australia, and I will be sure to bring my famous hubby and my celebrated toes.   I have a strange, quirky sense of humor too, in case you hadn't noticed... ;)

Aha! There was a bit of speculation as to whose toes and who the model those might be! I'm pretty sure someone thought it was you and your husband, I will have to find out, they'll be excited to know they called it!

That is too awesome, and glad you have such a great sense of humor. After I posted I suddenly thought - hmmm maybe that's not the best thing to write on a public forum in case you were like "hey that was a very serious photo thank you very much!!!" :)

Yes do come to Melbourne, you shall have the red carpet treatment!

« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2011, 17:05 »
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Aha! There was a bit of speculation as to whose toes and who the model those might be! I'm pretty sure someone thought it was you and your husband, I will have to find out, they'll be excited to know they called it!


LOL I didn't think that there was anybody left in the stock world that can't instantly recognize Lisa's husband!! :)

RT


« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2011, 18:17 »
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Hope we didn't ruin your dinner, LOL!

I managed to force it down, but I never had you to be the sort of girl to wear a ring on her toes  :-*

« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2011, 18:21 »
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Ok, i see people are uploading to site giving 25% of 3$ (not !) for large download and with the cheapest extended license of the market, including 5$ for extra small!!
Ok, ok, then SS can lowering commission now, fotolia and istock can cut again in half...go on ...go on... ::)
Why photodune can't give 40% commission and review their extended licence price to attract more contributors and fight to the top?
I like the fact that Collis is giving clear and fair news, but i'm disappointed for  the lack of effort on commissions...i would really like to upload there, but... :-\
« Last Edit: September 02, 2011, 18:27 by Smithore »

velocicarpo

« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2011, 18:24 »
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Ok, i see people are uploading to site giving 25% of 3$ (not !) for large download and with the cheapest extended license of the market, including 5$ for extra small!!
Ok, ok, then SS can lowering commission now, fotolia and istock can cut again in half...go on ...go on... ::)

+1. I don`t like stupid People. But I tried. Really hard.

lisafx

« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2011, 18:37 »
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Hope we didn't ruin your dinner, LOL!

I managed to force it down, but I never had you to be the sort of girl to wear a ring on her toes  :-*

LOL!  You had me figured right.  I actually had to borrow the toe ring from a friend.  You know, anything for the sake of art ;)

« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2011, 18:39 »
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I still can't get enthusiastic about 25% and I'm sure if we all upload, sales wont seem so good.  I've seen it happen with other sites, people mention good sales, everyone uploads and then all you see is complaints about low sales.  They called it dilution of sales with Lucky Oliver but at least they had good EL prices and reasonable commissions.

« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2011, 18:49 »
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Ok, i see people are uploading to site giving 25% of 3$ (not !) for large download and with the cheapest extended license of the market, including 5$ for extra small!!

Unbelievable, isn't it? Apparently some contributors are way more greedy than getty or FT. They just cannot let go those peanuts. Pathetic.
There have been agencies that paid for uploads but apparently it is enough to set up an agency with the most c**** pricing in the universe and these people will flock there anyway.

Then, in another thread they will complain about commission cuts at other agencies. They make me more sick than getty or FT.  

« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2011, 02:53 »
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I don't usually complain about specific rejections on a public forum but since PhotoDune is very new and I am just starting to submit to this site, this is more a general question than a complaint: what is your official position towards exterior architectural pictures of old buildings taken from publicly accessible space?

The rejection says "Please check if there is a Property Release required": should I just resubmit with a note that it's not required? even in that case, it's a lot of work; or should I mark all as editorial? (even if it's not usually the case)

See sample rejected picture below.
My port is 70% architecture, if you don't accept it I'd better stop uploading completely.

Hi there! Good questions, I have to admit I don't know the answer myself, so I'll ask Jarel our review manager if he can stop in to the forums and answer, shouldn't be too long. Thanks for your patience!

Hi guys,

As the review team will not be able to remember the legal specifics for each and every property around the globe, it's the photographer's responsibility to ensure they are adhering to the legal requirements for each property they photograph and submit to PhotoDune. Those who make violations are subject to our standard policy for copyright violations.

Initially we wanted to stay on the safe side of things and, if we weren't sure, we would soft-reject the photo for clarification. That doesn't really work, so I had directed the team not to do that any more. In this instance they may have forgotten or, depending on when you submitted, we may have changed the policy after your photos were reviewed.

Please also keep in mind that, like PhotoDune itself, our review team is new and developing policies for new situations as they arise. Over the next few months our review workflow and internal process will be worked on quite heavily to make sure things run smoothly and efficiently. So if issues with the review system come up, please do let us know so we can spot any issues and make the changes necessary to avoid or fix them.

Thanks!

Microstock InsiderPhotoDune

 

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