Author Topic: PhotoDune in Open Beta (Read 12700 times)

leaf · « **on:** August 08, 2011, 14:22 »

just a little heads up, Photodune is now in open beta.

Their rates are as follows:
Exclusive: 50%-70%
non-exclusive - 25%

referrals: no photographer referral program

, but you get 30% of what a buyer spend on their first purchase.

I've had my images there in closed beta for the last 2 months and they have already had some OK sales from their current 'old' members..(on par with Canstock / DepositPhotos) it will be interesting to see how much competition they create for the Big 4. Envato, the head company, is very well accomplished in their other efforts and I expect them to move into the Middle Tier pretty quickly, however time will tell. When they get the flood of new images there may not be enough buyers to keep up the sales for all the photographers. Either way, I'm eager to see how it goes.

Snufkin · « **Reply #1 on:** August 08, 2011, 14:55 »

Thanks for the heads up Leaf.
20 MP XXL for 9 USD x 25% = not very attractive
I'll pass for now.

SS OD pays 2,70 USD for a much smaller size.
Photodune Large 5 $ x 25% = 1,25 $. IS Large - around 2- 2,50 USD.
Extended Licence: 45 USD x 25% is a joke.

Race to the bottom, I don't think it is in our interest that this agency succeeds.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 08, 2011, 15:18 »

keep getting 1 answer wrong on their test! hehhe

sharpshot · « **Reply #3 on:** August 08, 2011, 15:35 »

I really don't think I can be bothered with a middle tier site for 25% commission. I really don't understand why we need this? There's already plenty of lower selling sites that pay closer to twice the commission, aren't we going to be better off just supplying them?

If they really were going to get in to the top 4, I might change my mind but I think that would be almost impossible when everyone uploads their portfolio. If Veer can't do it, what hope have other sites?

I might just open up an account and upload a few, hoping it will encourage their buyers to look for more of my stuff elsewhere.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 08, 2011, 15:42 »

true.. but the cool idea about them might be some exclusive stuff.. don´t know if they allow some to be.. really hard to predict the future of a "new" agency, they do have some background and if they can get buyers and more buyers with time it can be a great agency to perhaps go exclusive, this is a very long idea and plan but who knows..

Snufkin · « **Reply #5 on:** August 08, 2011, 16:22 »

More likely you'll caniballize your sales elsewhere and encourage other agencies to cut commisions furthermore.
Don't complain about falling commissions if you are willing to supply ridiculous sites like photodune.

11,25 USD for ELs... c'mon

Last month VEER paid me 35 USD for an EL, I get regular ELs on SS for 28 USD.
Photodune's offer is a joke.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 08, 2011, 16:28 »

Quote from: Snufkin on August 08, 2011, 16:22

More likely you'll caniballize your sales elsewhere and encourage other agencies to cut commisions furthermore.
Don't complain about falling commissions if you are willing to supply ridiculous sites like photodune.
11,25 USD for ELs... c'mon

let´s be realistic ok?

DT - 25% for level 0
IS - 15%
FT - 20%
SS - 15-19% for people starting

again I really think that if they in a year or two make it HAPPEN we can try to submit exclusive files there (if they open that too) and perhaps exclusive later

looking at leaf port there he had 117 sales from April 11, that does look good and way more than some mid tier agencies, if you don´t want to join that´s your own problem, I am kind of sick of everybody sticking the finger in other business

sharpshot · « **Reply #7 on:** August 08, 2011, 16:30 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 08, 2011, 15:42

true.. but the cool idea about them might be some exclusive stuff.. don´t know if they allow some to be.. really hard to predict the future of a "new" agency, they do have some background and if they can get buyers and more buyers with time it can be a great agency to perhaps go exclusive, this is a very long idea and plan but who knows..

It has to be very long odds that they will get enough buyers to make it worthwhile, especially with low commissions. And they are probably going to get those buyers from the sites that pay us more, as most of them do. I'm not really interested in exclusivity anyway, thought about trying image exclusivity but it really doesn't appeal to me unless a site came up with a really good deal.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 08, 2011, 16:33 »

I agree but on the long run it might be different, as you know better than me stock/agencies is changing constantly, odds may be quite small.. let´s see how they will do and how is the uploading too

Snufkin · « **Reply #9 on:** August 08, 2011, 16:35 »

Don't look at the percentages only, look at the prices as well.
If people are happy with 1,25 USD for Large size, the other agencies will adjust and soon you will have 7% at IS or 10% at DT...
Race to the bottom

unsustainable

luissantos84 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 08, 2011, 16:41 »

Quote from: Snufkin on August 08, 2011, 16:35

Don't look at the percentages only, look at the prices as well.
If people are happy with 1,25 USD for Large size, the other agencies will adjust and soon you will have 7% at IS or 10% at DT...
Race to the bottom unsustainable

stock as you know or we adapt or we die.. really hard to predict the future, not saying that 25% is good (of course it ain´t) but.. we are screwed on the end of the day.. this discussion could travel all year long, there is SF paying 50% but can we get to a payout? sure but slowly, after one year on the stock business..

Snufkin · « **Reply #11 on:** August 08, 2011, 16:52 »

Not counting the ELs, maximum possible commission on photodune is miserable 2,25 USD for 20 Megapixels.

Veer XL: 5,25 USD - L: 3,50 USD
My today's downloads on DT: Level 3 TIFF: 8,91, Level 2 XL: 4,20
ISTOCK XXXL: 6-7 USD

No comments.

Perry · « **Reply #12 on:** August 08, 2011, 16:53 »

So how is the uploading procedure? Is there categories or other things that needs to be clicked for every image? FTP? What is the minimum size in megapixels?

If I can dump my portfolio there easily, I might try this one too. Otherwise: nah!

luissantos84 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 08, 2011, 17:18 »

Quote from: Perry on August 08, 2011, 16:53

So how is the uploading procedure? Is there categories or other things that needs to be clicked for every image? FTP? What is the minimum size in megapixels?

If I can dump my portfolio there easily, I might try this one too. Otherwise: nah!

let me explain:

1. usual registration
2. quiz about photodune (10 questions, not easy, needed like 5 times)
3. zip with 5 to 10 pictures (lowest size is 2000px x 2000px)

now I am waiting!

p.s: approved after a few hours, will see now the upload and will let you know guys

Perry · « **Reply #14 on:** August 08, 2011, 17:24 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 08, 2011, 17:18

let me explain:

1. usual registration
2. quiz about photodune (10 questions, not easy, needed like 5 times)
3. zip with 5 to 10 pictures (lowest size is 2000px x 2000px)

now I am waiting!

Yes, but how is the submission procedure when submitting the "real" images?

luissantos84 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 08, 2011, 17:32 »

Quote from: Perry on August 08, 2011, 17:24

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 08, 2011, 17:18
let me explain:

1. usual registration
2. quiz about photodune (10 questions, not easy, needed like 5 times)
3. zip with 5 to 10 pictures (lowest size is 2000px x 2000px)

now I am waiting!

Yes, but how is the submission procedure when submitting the "real" images?

that like I said here don´t know and will be a key factor..

luissantos84 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 08, 2011, 19:49 »

the upload is smooth... upload and tick to review

ps: I am so confused.. the system is quite confusing..

I have upload a folder with like 30 pics or so and then we need to pick one by one without thumbnail and add a MR to it... and MR need to be zip and we cannot add 2 MR to a pic.. really confusing.. must be missing something.. just emailed them, will see

microstockphoto.co.uk · « **Reply #17 on:** August 09, 2011, 01:00 »

Submitted 5 sample pictures tonight, already approved this morning - fastest initial review ever!

Then I submitted a picture and noted that IPTC data is not being imported - using exiftools to tag my pictures

sharpshot · « **Reply #18 on:** August 09, 2011, 02:03 »

How low a commission will people accept? I'm sure the sites that currently pay us more will be interested. This is the perfect excuse for them to make more cuts. I know a lot of you think we will all end up on low commissions everywhere but I still don't see the logic in pushing the sites in to doing it.

dirkr · « **Reply #19 on:** August 09, 2011, 04:08 »

Quote from: sharpshot on August 09, 2011, 02:03

How low a commission will people accept? I'm sure the sites that currently pay us more will be interested. This is the perfect excuse for them to make more cuts. I know a lot of you think we will all end up on low commissions everywhere but I still don't see the logic in pushing the sites in to doing it.

Fully agree. I will reconsider them once they increase their non-exclusive commission to 50%.

milemobile · « **Reply #20 on:** August 09, 2011, 06:12 »

Snufkin, where are you see Extended license that is 45$, i only see 15$ Extended license which is a bigger joke

Phil · « **Reply #21 on:** August 09, 2011, 06:57 »

I must be missing something as to me it looks

$15 ELs - I dont think so
25% to if its lucky is a middle-tier
A different uploading procedure so I have individually upload to them rather than put them in my ftp chain when I upload to everyone else? if so I am supposed to do this for a 25% commission of bargain basement prices, doesnt sound enticing (I can barely be bothered with istocks seperate uploading)
Referral program, plenty of others have much better programs I'll stick to those
High commission on exclusive images, I can make up to $5-$7 on exclusive images, I get that at istock as non-exclusive (and a chunk of my files on dt) - so you want to images exclusive so that the artist can get less than what they get non-exclusive elsewhere - seems like a fail to me?

Seems very arrogant and just crap to me - I cant really find positives compared to the others?? but people are uploading so what am I missing??

sharpshot · « **Reply #22 on:** August 09, 2011, 07:26 »

Quote from: Phil on August 09, 2011, 06:57

....but people are uploading so what am I missing??

I presume it's because they have a fear of missing out on any sales? They also seem to think that we're heading for lower commissions anyway, so what difference does it make? I don't understand this, it's a bit like taking some of your savings and putting it in a bank that pays lower interest, because your bank might lower interest in the future.

jm · « **Reply #23 on:** August 09, 2011, 08:06 »

I'm afraid that the decision if to upload or not starts for many contributors with question "Is Yuri there?". And if he is, then it has to be good decision.

borg · « **Reply #24 on:** August 09, 2011, 08:11 »

Yuri is already there! It seems that Evanto is not too cheap for him....

P.S. Hahahaha! I didn't see post with question before my post...

But I gave an answer!

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