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CreatingDrew

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« Reply #101 on: November 29, 2011, 00:37 »
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Hey Drew,

I've uploaded some pics and added model releases to the folder in my ftp uploader.  The model releases don't appear anywhere that I can see in the final submission process.  Am I missing something or are they automatically attached to all pics in the batch?

Thanks,

Mat

Heya Mat,

The latter, the model releases are already "attached" to the pics that you uploaded during the batch upload. No need to assign them or anything like that :)

-Drew


« Reply #103 on: November 29, 2011, 01:02 »
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The latter, the model releases are already "attached" to the pics that you uploaded during the batch upload. No need to assign them or anything like that :)

-Drew

Drew,

I hope you guys will rethink this process some time soon.  It would be nice to see what release is linked to the images when I submit them, and to fix the assignment if it's not correct.  Also, it's kind of annoying to have to break up my FTP batches by release.  If I have 5 photos with one model, 5 with a second, 5 with a third, and another 5 with some combination of those same three models, am I required to upload each combination separately?  Or can I just upload the 20 images and all three releases and ignore the ones that don't count?

« Reply #104 on: November 29, 2011, 01:31 »
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I asked exactly that question and was told it would be OK to have images in the batch that didn't use all of the model/property releases attached.

I haven't tested that out - my first big batch with a release was for a single property release. If that encounters no problems (i.e. images are approved) I'm going to test out a batch with four people and one property release where not all the people are in all the shots and see if all those pass inspection.

« Reply #105 on: November 29, 2011, 01:37 »
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Thanks, Jo Ann.  I'll give it a try the next time I have a mixed batch.

joshsprague

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« Reply #106 on: November 29, 2011, 01:39 »
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The latter, the model releases are already "attached" to the pics that you uploaded during the batch upload. No need to assign them or anything like that :)

-Drew

Drew,

I hope you guys will rethink this process some time soon.  It would be nice to see what release is linked to the images when I submit them, and to fix the assignment if it's not correct.  Also, it's kind of annoying to have to break up my FTP batches by release.  If I have 5 photos with one model, 5 with a second, 5 with a third, and another 5 with some combination of those same three models, am I required to upload each combination separately?  Or can I just upload the 20 images and all three releases and ignore the ones that don't count?

Hi disorderly :)  This is a good question and I can understand the confusion.  To answer your question, yes, you can just upload the 20 images and all three releases and ignore the ones that don't count?  The 3 releases will be attached to all of the images in that batch.

Hope that helps!

« Reply #107 on: December 31, 2011, 15:37 »
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How many of the Ktoolers got back their initial investment in kTools? How is Dan's Warmpictures doing?

I cannot make a judgement yet. Building an e-commerce site from the ground up takes time, and a lot of it. Unless you have a list of qualified buyers waiting for you, there will be no sales until people find you. In the case of Photodune, they were already part of the huge and successful Envato network when they were formed. That's a big advantage. But it's a little different in our case as Photodune is going after the microstock market hard, whereas we are competing with Alamy, Corbis, etc.

We make a nice amount on sales per visit. The problem is visits are very low because it takes so long to make headway in Google. The advertising I have tried has probably helped to spread our name recognition, but it has never done much for our sales. The people who buy from us tend to come to us directly, wanting something in specific.

I think people who undertake a new website don't give it nearly enough time or effort to succeed or fail. I've extended our domain the maximum 3 years, and I wouldn't do that if I felt I couldn't increase our traffic by a vast amount. Time will tell. It's too early to declare winners and losers.


« Reply #109 on: September 01, 2014, 08:13 »
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Hey everyone!  We've just announced some changes to our marketplace fee structure, as part of a new holistic approach that brings both author and buyer needs into better focus.  Our goal is to create a really fantastic experience that benefits both buyers and authors in the long term.

As part of this update, our fees to non-exclusive authors are decreasing which means an increase in net author earnings.  For a sale of an item with a list price of $100, a non-exclusive author will now have net earnings of $36 (for comparison, in our old fee structure, they would have received $33). We're working steadily towards a more competitive media offering for photos, footage, and other markets dominated by non-exclusive contributors.

The Become an Author page has a complete and more visual representation of this breakdown, with a fancy chart and slider :)

You can read more about this change on our Market Blog:
As well as our commitment to strengthening our media markets as part of our 2014 Roadmap.  Thanks!


Tried to read through those releases but the business gobbledygook made it difficult. :o

What's the low down for a photographer?

Author fees? What are they?

Are we getting 36% royalties instead of 33% for none exclusives?

Lev

« Reply #110 on: September 01, 2014, 08:59 »
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Hey everyone!  We've just announced some changes to our marketplace fee structure, as part of a new holistic approach that brings both author and buyer needs into better focus.  Our goal is to create a really fantastic experience that benefits both buyers and authors in the long term.

As part of this update, our fees to non-exclusive authors are decreasing which means an increase in net author earnings.  For a sale of an item with a list price of $100, a non-exclusive author will now have net earnings of $36 (for comparison, in our old fee structure, they would have received $33). We're working steadily towards a more competitive media offering for photos, footage, and other markets dominated by non-exclusive contributors.

The Become an Author page has a complete and more visual representation of this breakdown, with a fancy chart and slider :)

You can read more about this change on our Market Blog:
As well as our commitment to strengthening our media markets as part of our 2014 Roadmap.  Thanks!


envato webpage says:

Non-Exclusive Authors

Our author fee to non-exclusive authors is 55% of the item price.

however, after your last change, on our earnings page we see "xx.xx % of the Item Price is the author fee we're currently charging you". with xx.xx number being HIGHER than 55.

can you please comment on this?

« Reply #111 on: September 01, 2014, 09:08 »
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How long is your current review time, if I may ask?

Hey Flashon,

Times can vary depending on how busy we are at any given time, but photo submissions generally are reviewed within 3-4 days and portfolio submissions generally within 24 hours or so :)

-Drew

What . is up with your HORRIBLE inspection process?

« Reply #112 on: September 01, 2014, 09:39 »
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no..? u earn not 55%. there is a fee. so it are 36%? But i dont know its max or min.

Valo

« Reply #113 on: September 01, 2014, 09:46 »
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What . is up with your HORRIBLE inspection process?
Agree

Valo

« Reply #114 on: September 01, 2014, 09:47 »
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Are we getting 36% royalties instead of 33% for none exclusives?
Good question

« Reply #115 on: September 01, 2014, 09:58 »
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Are we getting 36% royalties instead of 33% for none exclusives?
Good question

That's what it sounds like to me, but they sure make it confusing with all these fees - why not just list the commission percent like every other site?

« Reply #116 on: September 01, 2014, 10:14 »
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Another question I have is why are Extended Licenses at Photodune only $40 - which to me seems about $60-110 too low, where on Graphic River they are a totally unrealistic price of $300?

Why is a nightclub flyer so much more precious than a photo?

« Reply #117 on: September 01, 2014, 10:31 »
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I looked on their site and it's still confusing.  In the example they give of a $100 purchase it works out to be a 36% commission, with a 55% "author's fee" that appears to be constant on the 80% remaining after the buyer's fee is subtracted.  If the "buyer's fee" is always 20% then it would work out to a 36% non-exclusive commission to us for all sales - 3% more than before so that will be a nice raise.  Unless the buyer's fee varies then we will not know.  I assume a variable buyer's fee is unlikely so hopefully it will always be 36% to authors - a step in the right direction.  Thanks to Envato for that!

Valo

« Reply #118 on: September 01, 2014, 11:34 »
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I just got a sale that normally would net me 0.66, but I got 0.72. So basically I got pay raise of 3%. This must be a dream  8). However, I truly truly appreciate the gesture. I guess it is still possible to get  a raise. Well done, Shutterstock should follow this example.

« Reply #119 on: September 01, 2014, 12:02 »
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This is confusing.  Author fees are what we pay to envato and that is different than commission percent?   Why is the language changed? 

If I read right then we get 55% of what's leftover after a 'buyers fee' is taken out.  In example the buyers fee is 20%.  What is the buyers fee anyways and who gets it?  Buyers dont get a fee for buying an image, right?  Does the buyers fee go to envato, and then they take another 45% of what remains?  Also, does the buyers fee stay the same or can it change?  It would help alot if someone explains what is the buyers fee and how it works.

I like envato and want to be happy with this news but I don't really understand?

Also, this is new info.  If its good news why buried on the end of 3 year old thread?

Valo

« Reply #120 on: September 01, 2014, 12:08 »
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It is a new thread, just that the title is not really clear on what is happening.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/a-more-balanced-envato-market


« Reply #121 on: September 01, 2014, 12:09 »
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It is a new thread, just that the title is not really clear on what is happening.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/a-more-balanced-envato-market


Oh.  Thank you. 


 

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