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« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2011, 08:51 »
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hi, i have this problem before when i ftp using filezilla, then i realise i have to ftp to the folder 'bulk import' of photodune..and the iptc will appear okay. I don't understand why photodune doesn't make it the default directory.


I have been uploading to Photodune.  I would agree with what others have said that having to retype the title is a pain, but I am getting through it.  I have been pleased to have two sales right away (only for 25c each, but it is a start), so I feel optimistic for the future with them.  Has anyone managed to link Lightburner to Photodune to automate the uploading process?

Cheers


Carl

  • Carl Stewart, CS Productions
« Reply #76 on: December 01, 2011, 07:03 »
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I would be interested in joining Photodune as a contributor if not for the fact that I have to create, store, and upload thumbnails.  Uploading is a time-consuming process, as we all know, and other sites generate thumbnails automatically.  Additionally, since I shoot a lot of beautiful models, I use adjectives such as "beautiful" in my titles quite frequently.  I can't imagine that it would be worth my time to change the titles and create my own thumbnails for one web site unless it's generating some record-breaking sales.  Or am I missing something?

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« Reply #77 on: December 01, 2011, 07:09 »
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I would be interested in joining Photodune as a contributor if not for the fact that I have to create, store, and upload thumbnails.  Uploading is a time-consuming process, as we all know, and other sites generate thumbnails automatically.  Additionally, since I shoot a lot of beautiful models, I use adjectives such as "beautiful" in my titles quite frequently.  I can't imagine that it would be worth my time to change the titles and create my own thumbnails for one web site unless it's generating some record-breaking sales.  Or am I missing something?

Don't know about other sites in the Envato marketplace, but for photos uploaded to Photodune you don't have to create thumbnails, which are automatically generated. And I never had a rejection for title.

Carl

  • Carl Stewart, CS Productions
« Reply #78 on: December 01, 2011, 08:09 »
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I'm just going by the information given at http://photodune.net/wiki/selling/author-selling/author-tutorial/:

As a general guide, all items require:

■A Thumbnail: A small thumbnail image to represent the item in search and browse listings.

■A Preview: This might be a graphic, a flash swf, an flv video, or an HTML demo depending on what item type you are uploading.

■A Download File: A main downloadable ZIP complete with help instructions and files for buyer download.

■Extras: Some item types require extra uploads for added preview systems, or other usage. Some items may require help files. Check the upload instructions for details.

■Titles: Item titles should be grammatically correct and capitalize the first letter of each word. (e.g., 30 Fabric Textures) Titles should be descriptive but avoid subjective language (beautiful awesome etc). See our Title guide for more information.

■Tags: Provide helpful tags to help buyers find your file using search. You can add up to 15 tags to an item on all marketplaces except AudioJungle and PhotoDune where we permit 30 tags. See our guide on choosing effective tags.

One of the main technical requirements is that the downloadable ZIP contains files that are as customizable as possible. This may mean keeping all layers in a Photoshop file intact, or providing extensive help documentation for a Flash file, or preparing multiple versions of a video loop. By making files customizable you increase their value to the customer.

... and at http://photodune.net/wiki/selling/upload-instructions/item-title-naming-convention/:

Bad:

■Beautiful File or The Best Template Do not use subjective words like brilliant, amazing, or best. These words describe your opinion rather than what the file actually is.

Based on this information, I also thought I'd have to package my photos in a zip file - even more time-consuming.  Perhaps I am indeed missing something here.  I might upload a batch and see what happens.

« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2011, 10:44 »
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I really like that they include the reviewers name in the image acceptance e-mails. Thats yet more transparency from an unusually open and refreshingly straightforward agency. I hope they include these names in rejections e-mails too, so Id know who to be mad at!!!

« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2011, 11:16 »
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The rejections do include the reviewer's name.

lagereek

« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2011, 11:24 »
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Apart from all the glib. I mean, is it a good site, agency, etc?

joshsprague

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« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2011, 11:58 »
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I would be interested in joining Photodune as a contributor if not for the fact that I have to create, store, and upload thumbnails.  Uploading is a time-consuming process, as we all know, and other sites generate thumbnails automatically.  Additionally, since I shoot a lot of beautiful models, I use adjectives such as "beautiful" in my titles quite frequently.  I can't imagine that it would be worth my time to change the titles and create my own thumbnails for one web site unless it's generating some record-breaking sales.  Or am I missing something?


@csproductions, hello! I'm sorry for any confusion, I'm afraid some of our Wiki information is heavily slanted to our other maketplaces at the moment... This is however something we are working on.  

Let me attempt to clarify a few items.

Thumbnails - In PhotoDune, your thumbnails and preview images will be generated for you.  With our other Marketplaces, it was necessary to require authors to provide this due to the nature of content provided.  For example, we could not generate dynamically a thumbnail for a Flash file or say a WordPress template.

Titles - Doing a quick search on PhotoDune for "Beautiful" turns up some 2,900 photos with some variation of the word. This one is more of a suggestion than a rule I believe and is intended to provide better SEO for your images.  Using more relevant keywords works in your favor. For example, this photo entitled Beautiful woman may not be as beneficial as say " Woman in Field with Strawberries". But I can see how the use of beautiful or even ugly might be important on PhotoDune.

So to be clear, my guess is you are just fine as you are to begin selling your stock on PhotoDune without a problem :D

Hope that helps!
« Last Edit: December 01, 2011, 15:16 by joshsprague »

rinderart

« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2011, 21:25 »
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I've been with 31 sites since I started RF. To me. The one that has the less bells and whistles gets my 6200 Images.  Take a 6 question "Test" why? Zip submission? 25%? Thumbnails? Capitalize certain words? Im sorry But I can't go through all my stuff that has no Problem anywhere else and change stuff for one site. It's just not cost effective for penny stock. If I was starting out?  Probably But c-mon Guys. Keep it simple and clean FTP,Then add releases One at a time or hundreds By clicking on the ones that apply. I think sometimes sites get to carried away with OOOO we can do this and that. Clean,Simple and elegant is the way to get anyone you want. trust me.

Just My Opinion.

« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2011, 22:15 »
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Photodune is complicated, confusing and not worth joining! That's the correct conclusion. Yes, please stay away. :-)

BTW. I am submitting my pictures to Photodune as for any other site without any special treatment, but I haven't read the author tutorial ...

« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2011, 22:52 »
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I've been with 31 sites since I started RF. To me. The one that has the less bells and whistles gets my 6200 Images.  Take a 6 question "Test" why? Zip submission? 25%? Thumbnails? Capitalize certain words? Im sorry But I can't go through all my stuff that has no Problem anywhere else and change stuff for one site. It's just not cost effective for penny stock. If I was starting out?  Probably But c-mon Guys. Keep it simple and clean FTP,Then add releases One at a time or hundreds By clicking on the ones that apply. I think sometimes sites get to carried away with OOOO we can do this and that. Clean,Simple and elegant is the way to get anyone you want. trust me.

Just My Opinion.

Submissions of photos do not require making thumbnails and you don't have to change any titles. The zip file is only for the application photos - everything else can be uploaded via FTP. I don't like the release system much, but as they don't mind taking a batch FTP'd to the photos folder with a collection of releases in the release folder (where some releases don't apply to some of the images) it's actually not as hard as it sounds. The big issue with it is that you can't check if you forgot something by looking at anything on the site.

At any rate, I'm not campaigning, just pointing out that it's the info text that needs updating as it's misleading with respect to stock photos.

rinderart

« Reply #86 on: December 02, 2011, 01:27 »
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Agree. Clean,Clear and elegant.

« Reply #87 on: December 02, 2011, 11:32 »
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Can someone point me in the direction of the file size requirements?  I just had my first image approved there but it appears a full resolution download from my 1D Mark III is only going to be worthy of a "Large" sale at $5.

Is this accurate? 

Mat

joshsprague

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« Reply #88 on: December 02, 2011, 11:42 »
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Can someone point me in the direction of the file size requirements?  I just had my first image approved there but it appears a full resolution download from my 1D Mark III is only going to be worthy of a "Large" sale at $5.

Is this accurate? 

Mat

Hi MatHayward!  Hopefully this answers your question.

Extra Small
387 x 516 (0.2MP)   $1
Small
671 x 894 (0.6MP)   $2
Medium
1225 x 1633 (2.0MP)   $3
Large
2121 x 2828 (6.0MP)   $5
Extra Large
3000 x 4000 (12.0MP)   $7
Extra Extra Large
5412 x 7216 (39.1MP)   $9

« Reply #89 on: December 02, 2011, 11:54 »
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which needs to be changed soon :D

« Reply #90 on: December 02, 2011, 12:04 »
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That does help Josh thanks. 

Unfortunately, it confirms the accuracy of the information.  There is no way I can justify selling my photos that low.  Every other site places my high-res files in the XL category.  I can see the appeal to your plan from a buyers perspective but as a photographer that would be very self-deprecating in my opinion.  I was really hesitant about the prices when my assumption was I would be selling extra large files.

Thanks for the opportunity but I am going to respectfully bow out.

All the best,

Mat

« Reply #91 on: December 02, 2011, 12:05 »
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Can someone point me in the direction of the file size requirements?  I just had my first image approved there but it appears a full resolution download from my 1D Mark III is only going to be worthy of a "Large" sale at $5.

Is this accurate? 

Mat

Hi MatHayward!  Hopefully this answers your question.

Extra Small
387 x 516 (0.2MP)   $1
Small
671 x 894 (0.6MP)   $2
Medium
1225 x 1633 (2.0MP)   $3
Large
2121 x 2828 (6.0MP)   $5
Extra Large
3000 x 4000 (12.0MP)   $7
Extra Extra Large
5412 x 7216 (39.1MP)   $9

That is sort of an odd distribution, and the jumps from 6 to 12  and then to 39 MP are rather drastic but without a corresponding drastic increase in price. Perhaps it is based more on the sizes needed for specific uses than on what cameras produce images of those sizes.

« Reply #92 on: December 02, 2011, 12:59 »
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which needs to be changed soon :D

LOL!! Very funny!
There were a few little issues uploading but other than that sales were immediate which is very important for a new site!
I think Photodune is great!! :)

helix7

« Reply #93 on: December 02, 2011, 13:19 »
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How's sales at PhotoDune so far this month? We're only 2 days in, but I'm already seeing some increased volume and revenue at Graphic River, partially thanks to the pay increase.

Just wondering if the Photodune folks are seeing improvements also.

« Reply #94 on: December 02, 2011, 13:19 »
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My first photo (which was part of my initial 10 too) got rejected because it would be more suitable on graphicriver - but I was under the impression that was for vector art - although looking at it it appears that they also include vector photo composites.

Has anyone else uploaded straight photos to graphicriver?

you can see the image in question here:

http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-fireball-image993876

I got an e-mail about this image, but I couldn't find this image on the site anywhere - where are the results of image reviews displayed?

« Reply #95 on: December 02, 2011, 13:21 »
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which needs to be changed soon :D

LOL!! Very funny!
There were a few little issues uploading but other than that sales were immediate which is very important for a new site!
I think Photodune is great!! :)

agree!

joshsprague

  • I work at Envato! How can I help?
« Reply #96 on: December 02, 2011, 13:42 »
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My first photo (which was part of my initial 10 too) got rejected because it would be more suitable on graphicriver - but I was under the impression that was for vector art - although looking at it it appears that they also include vector photo composites.

Has anyone else uploaded straight photos to graphicriver?

you can see the image in question here:

http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-fireball-image993876

I got an e-mail about this image, but I couldn't find this image on the site anywhere - where are the results of image reviews displayed?


Hi pancaketom!  This can be a tricky one.  Can you tell me, is this file simply a jpeg or is there psd/AI file available?  The answer will help me determine where it should reside :)

« Reply #97 on: December 02, 2011, 14:59 »
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My first photo (which was part of my initial 10 too) got rejected because it would be more suitable on graphicriver - but I was under the impression that was for vector art - although looking at it it appears that they also include vector photo composites.

Has anyone else uploaded straight photos to graphicriver?

you can see the image in question here:

http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-fireball-image993876

I got an e-mail about this image, but I couldn't find this image on the site anywhere - where are the results of image reviews displayed?


Hi pancaketom!  This can be a tricky one.  Can you tell me, is this file simply a jpeg or is there psd/AI file available?  The answer will help me determine where it should reside :)


This file is just a simple jpeg - a slightly photoshopped photo (I made the background truly black and removed a few distracting foreground elements).

edit - maybe it went through the wrong review channels since I think I tried to ftp it before I discovered I had to .zip the first submission (so it didn't go into a sub folder).
« Last Edit: December 02, 2011, 15:09 by pancaketom »


« Reply #99 on: December 03, 2011, 08:51 »
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I think Photodune is great!! :)
I beg to differ. I had 1/3 rejected because of no model release. And yes I put those in the releases folder. Now they want me to go file by file and click 1000 times to edit/reupload the release on every image. They don't even have batch.

Apart from that, their reviewers seem to be ignorant in the microstock field since they rejected many good sellers elsewhere with a very generic comment. Is it framing, noise, or "standards"? No explanation.

They got the top contributors (no not you Luis) in probably with some assistance as to releases. Now the regulars join, we have to bear with their unpreparedness as to microstock, especially release libraries. I'll just wait for a while uploading and see what they come up with but I won't hold my breath. If they only carry the top image factories and ignore the humble ants at the bottom, a vested microstock site is still much better for a buyer.

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