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ShadySue

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« on: September 15, 2011, 06:38 »
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A warning to those who may not have found this feature yet.
The other evening I was looking for something else inside preferences and found that I could rename the coloured labels. Oooh, I thought, that's good, I can name yellow Alamy, green iStock and blue Flickr, as I was using these colour anyway.
I didn't imagine for a moment that this would cause any harm.
Grief, am I the only idiot on the planet who ever did this? All my colour coding has gone to white - i.e. all the previously green, yellow and blue labelled files now have white labels, so I'm having to go in and manually change them all.
It's not a problem if someone should question my ownership of a file, as my backups are in separate iStock or Alamy folders, but these backups are the actual jpegs, not the original RAWS which are now all white in their original 'shoot' folders.
Anyone know the best channel to contact at Adobe about to get that changed in future releases? The fact that all the labels changed to white, which AFAICS isn't a system label colour means they saw it would be a problem, but didn't think to change that behaviour or at least give a pop up warning about it.


RT


« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 06:59 »
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 07:00 »
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Could you have renamed them back?

« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 07:05 »
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I never use color labels in Bridge, but I just checked how it works (bridge CS5). It seems that a file is associated with a text label, not its color. For example, if RED = "selected" and a file is given this label, when you change "selected" to "FlickR" in Preferences, your file is still associated with "selected" label. As the new label for RED is now "FlickR", the text label "selected" is given a white color by default. Yes it's a weird way to manage labels, I agree.

A solution exists though for you to fix your labels without too much effort. Use the Filter tab to filter your files by their original text labels, and then assign them the new labels, then they will be colored again. Do the same for each previous label you had assigned, and you're done.

Hope that helps
Erick

ShadySue

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 07:17 »
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http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/402/kb402392.html

Thanks for that. Unforunately, I reassigned several hundred of them manually yesterday.
To be honest, I'm shocked that it's been an issue since v3 and they don't at the very least give a warning when you do it. But you'd have thought they could have fixed it by CS5.

Unless I'm missing something, the 'fix' would still involve a manual identifying of images, one by one?

@Sean: I did wonder that, after I'd done the 'several hundred' and wondered if that would put those I'd reassigned back to white again?

RT


« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 08:06 »
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To be honest, I'm shocked that it's been an issue since v3 and they don't at the very least give a warning when you do it. But you'd have thought they could have fixed it by CS5.

I don't think they've 'fixed' it because there isn't anything to fix, when you change a labels description and you have other files under the same label with a different description it causes a conflict, i.e. if you had 20 files under the original red label description 'select' then you change the description for red files to read 'to do' and label another 20 files with your new description what do you think would happen if you combined the two sets of 20 files into the same folder, you can't have the same label with two different descriptions, hence Bridge throws a wobbly (deliberately) and colours them all white to indicate to you that's there's something amiss with the labelling.

I'm not sure the link I sent you explains that too well (not sure I did either) but I sent it to you to show that it's not a fault and that it's been like that since CS3, and also to show you how to get your old labels back.

By the way that's why Adobe posted a "solution" rather than a cure.

ShadySue

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 08:18 »
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To be honest, I'm shocked that it's been an issue since v3 and they don't at the very least give a warning when you do it. But you'd have thought they could have fixed it by CS5.

I don't think they've 'fixed' it because there isn't anything to fix, when you change a labels description and you have other files under the same label with a different description it causes a conflict, i.e. if you had 20 files under the original red label description 'select' then you change the description for red files to read 'to do' and label another 20 files with your new description what do you think would happen if you combined the two sets of 20 files into the same folder, you can't have the same label with two different descriptions, hence Bridge throws a wobbly (deliberately) and colours them all white to indicate to you that's there's something amiss with the labelling.

I'm not sure the link I sent you explains that too well (not sure I did either) but I sent it to you to show that it's not a fault and that it's been like that since CS3, and also to show you how to get your old labels back.

By the way that's why Adobe posted a "solution" rather than a cure.

The explanation was fine, it's a manual, file by file process unless I just go back to the 'meaningless' descriptions.

I guess it's just that I'm slow. I hadn't noticed before Tuesday night that you could change the description of the labels, so I hadn't thought about the possiblility of different coloured labels doing different things in different folders. (Now that you've pointed out the possiblity, I'd far prefer a bigger range of colours, otherwise I'd get confused, but that's just me) Now all I've got is three hard discs with many folders containing thousands of white labelled images. I guess the quickest way 'for me' would be to refind all the ones I manually changed yesterday (only 'hundreds', between about 40 folders, on my main hard disc, though I didn't count them), separate them off, then revert to the old 'meaningless' descriptions.

I still think there should at least be a warning 'bubble' at the very least.

Thanks for the info.  :)
« Last Edit: September 15, 2011, 08:41 by ShadySue »

RT


« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 09:24 »
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Now all I've got is three hard discs with many folders containing thousands of white labelled images.

I might not have grasped your situation correctly but based on what I think you mean this may save you some time:

- Go into the folder on your hard disk and rename all the labels back to what they were by default when you labelled the files, that should then see you colours come back to how they were.

- Now assign each label coloured file to a seperate folder, i.e. all the reds together etc

- Then de-label all the files in that folder

- Then change the description of your labels in Bridge

- Go back into your file with all the old 'reds' and select and label them with your new descriptions

- Then from this day forth all your coloured labels should match up when you add new labelled files

- Not knowing how you've got your files set up this may or may not be a quick process

The key is keeping all your old colours seperate so you don't lose track of them, once you've de-labelled, changed descriptions and re-labelled them under your new system you can mix files in folders and they'll all have their individual colours showing.

As the link said changing the label descriptions does absolutely nothing to the files themselves, it only changes the way bridge interprets what colour matches what description - hence in a folder with mixed files all the individual colours have to have the same representative description.

 

red

« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 09:42 »
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I'd far prefer a bigger range of colours...

Funny, I was just searching for this capability yesterday. There is a program called Labels X http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/labels that will let you customize (Mac OS X) folder colors and names. It's not free. I downloaded the trial and might buy it.


 

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