picniche.com

Lee Torrens

« on: July 04, 2008, 18:29 »

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picniche.com is another microstock mashup website which returns the quantity of images and their combined downloads for the keywords you search on. You can instantly see the demand and supply for images in a particular subject/niche. It's only connected to Fotolia at the moment, but other agencies are coming online shortly.

I wrote about this site a couple of days ago but didn't get much of a response, so I'm coming here where I'm sure to get educated opinions. What does everyone think about this facility?


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sharpshot

« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2008, 01:37 »

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I like it. This seems a bit like the alamy measures feature. Will be useful when they add more sites but the FT search still seems to be malfunctioning, so I am not going to use it at the moment.


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Bateleur

« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 04:32 »

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Er ... I'm probably being very dense here, but I don't understand it.

In the 'About us' it states:

... our search system assesses the sales statistics (demand) for images found relating to that search, along with the competition (supply) for that phrase, and returns a rating indicating the likelihood of making a sale as a result of that keyword phrase on your image.

and they give a ratings table from <10 being bad to >100 being a niche.

Okay. So I do a couple of tests:

'business' and 'woman' gets a rating of 0.59 which is bl**dy awful.

'fungus' and 'smell' gets a rating of 24.69 which is half-way OK.

So does that mean that an image that illustrates 'fungus' and 'smell' has a greater likelihood of making a sale than one that illustrates 'business' and 'woman'?

Really?


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vphoto

« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 09:14 »

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Quote from: Bateleur on July 05, 2008, 04:32

So does that mean that an image that illustrates 'fungus' and 'smell' has a greater likelihood of making a sale than one that illustrates 'business' and 'woman'?

Really?

it meas that in language processing we are still smarter than machines.


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sharply_done

« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 13:52 »

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I think it's currently in a 'proof of concept' state. Sure, it works, but you can't easily see the influence and interplay of primary and secondary keywords. What's there right now is an engine for something that could be a very powerful tool.

I'd like to see it evolve to work something like this: you give it a few primary keywords ("man, beach") and a bunch of secondary ones ("running, jumping, walking, volleyball, football") and it does an analysis on the possible combinations then throws up the results on some sort of easy-to-read chart. In this way you might find that "man, beach, volleyball" has a better market than "man, beach, running".


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bobbigmac

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2008, 19:36 »

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Hey All

I've been cruising google for links to my site and it brought me here

Good to see some people have found it useful, and of course that some have improvements they'd like to see.

Just thought I'd mention as regards suggestions for improving entered terms, I added a suggestions feature last week which finds similar but better ranked terms to the phrase you entered it's pretty simplistic but it works to some extent, and will get better as more people search.
I've also added a rolling 'latest niches' and top lists. Still got some things to iron out, but it's getting there.

I'm delighted to hear any feedback from you guys and i'll do what I can to add features as and when I get a chance.

Cheers
Bob

PS: Yes, strangely enough, "fungus smell" is more likely to make a sale (disregarding factors such as default sort orders, colour or other advanced search features), statistically speaking, effectively it means that more people are buying the existing images (per image) tagged with that phrase at a higher rate than "business woman", although this sounds strange, it's mostly a reflection of the almost complete lack of competition for that phrase. Odd I know, but hey, stats are strange things sometimes Cheesy


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kgtoh

« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2008, 03:25 »

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I really like this tool; it has a lot of potential.


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litifeta

« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2008, 21:18 »

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I do not understand?


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PaulieWalnuts

« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2008, 01:40 »

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Bob - I tested it with some of my good and bad sellers and the ratings weren't totally accurate but close enough to see that you're onto something here. Keep working on it.


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Lcjtripod

« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2008, 17:11 »

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Golf Nude gets: 1,370.91

Now that is hot! Got any to upload?

-Larry


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kabby

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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2008, 08:54 »

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The suggestions are an improvement, however not completely acurate, since it pulls words with part of the word.

This is what came up for the simple search "cat":
Suggestions:
sex education
asthma medication
engine catalyst
engine catalytic
catalyst


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bobbigmac

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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2008, 11:48 »

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Aye it's kind of a tricky one to get accurate suggestions for some phrases as it's weighted to get previous searches with a significantly higher result than the entered phrase, it's hard to predict mathematically whether "world wonder" is related to "wonderful" or "man wondering" for example, it should improve over time as more people make searches and we have more entries to test against


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