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Other ways of making money => Print on Demand Forum => Topic started by: Dennis Holmes on May 29, 2009, 05:22
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I'm not sure why it's not in the microstock poll results, I guess because it's graphics and not photos.
Anyway if you want to make money from your art please look at Clipartof.com they are looking for artist. EXTREMELY easy to deal with!!
They are a midstock. You name your price and 50-50% cut. And you can price your own work.
Go to http://www.clipartof.com/info/contributor_agreement.html (http://www.clipartof.com/info/contributor_agreement.html) take a look
I've been with them 2 and a half months and made $500!! They have just finished uploading my 2000+ images and have been told I will easily be earning over $1000US a month,
Talk to Jamie she is great.
You will not be disappointed. Illustration only. vector and jpg.
I've done zazzle, iclipart and similar..... NOT EVEN CLOSE.
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Do they, by any chance, pay a referral bonus?
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They do. But they do not have an affiliate program.
I have 2 reasons for posting this.
First is to help artist trying to get a foot in. (and get a good rate instead of a few cents)
The second is that the owner has bent over backwards to help me. I sent her zip fies and she loaded them tagged them and keyworded them,
Oh yeah, she converted then to AI version 8 eps and created the pgs as well.
If you know any other sites that do this PLEASE let me know.
BTW I have fibromyalgia and there is no way I could have done this myself.
Far enough?
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Site looks great with wonderfull artists...
BTW how do we get in .....
Sending an e-mail or what....???
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You can go through the link above or email Jamie direct. Email me and I'll send her contact if you like?
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They do. But they do not have an affiliate program.
I have 2 reasons for posting this.
First is to help artist trying to get a foot in. (and get a good rate instead of a few cents)
The second is that the owner has bent over backwards to help me. I sent her zip fies and she loaded them tagged them and keyworded them,
Oh yeah, she converted then to AI version 8 eps and created the pgs as well.
If you know any other sites that do this PLEASE let me know.
BTW I have fibromyalgia and there is no way I could have done this myself.
Far enough?
Yep, fair enough.
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Yup...
I have contacted them... US Company... Problems with moneybookers... So, for now I wait some solution to come up...
BTW, Very nice people!
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You can go through the link above or email Jamie direct. Email me and I'll send her contact if you like?
Thanks I already send out an e-mail...
Hope for the best....
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Yup...
I have contacted them... US Company... Problems with moneybookers... So, for now I wait some solution to come up...
BTW, Very nice people!
Moneybrokers?
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From the website:
"About Us
Thanks for stopping by ClipartOf.com! ClipartOf.com is owned and managed by Jamie Voetsch and Kenny Adams under Image Envision LLC.
We started out in this industry knowing nothing. After years of working for another library, we fell in love with our jobs and branched out on our own. We now have an internet empire of over 200 websites, most of them revolving around photos or clipart.
We represent over 40 artists scattered around the globe and encourage them to "go for it" and be on their own. We strive to give them the opportunities to where they can make a living doing what they love and to be financially stable enough to quit their full time jobs. We allow them to pick their own pricing, build discounted collections, and create images as they please. You will get quality clipart images direct from our artists.
We never outsource to other countries for jobs, like many online businesses, and you will get fast, personalized customer service direct from Jamie herself, either by phone or email.
So relax, have fun, and enjoy browsing our amazing and humorous clipart library."
Sounds interesting. I will take a closer look at the site this weekend. I have a lot of bitmap illustrations and graphics.
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Yup...
I have contacted them... US Company... Problems with moneybookers... So, for now I wait some solution to come up...
BTW, Very nice people!
Moneybrokers?
I can not sign in with PayPal - so European alternative for that is called Moneybookers... They don't allow traffic with US citizens ;-)
There is problem I wait to be solved... Check is to risky for where I live...
So I am pronounced 'DEFCON 3' and just waiting to launch all of my missiles there ;-)
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Yup...
I have contacted them... US Company... Problems with moneybookers... So, for now I wait some solution to come up...
BTW, Very nice people!
I can not sign in with PayPal - so European alternative for that is called Moneybookers... They don't allow traffic with US citizens ;-)
No paypal ??? I'm out...too
There is problem I wait to be solved... Check is to risky for where I live...
Moneybrokers?
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Yup...
I have contacted them... US Company... Problems with moneybookers... So, for now I wait some solution to come up...
BTW, Very nice people!
Moneybrokers?
Can't use UK Paypal?
I can not sign in with PayPal - so European alternative for that is called Moneybookers... They don't allow traffic with US citizens ;-)
There is problem I wait to be solved... Check is to risky for where I live...
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Yup...
I have contacted them... US Company... Problems with moneybookers... So, for now I wait some solution to come up...
BTW, Very nice people!
Moneybrokers?
Can't use UK Paypal?
I can not sign in with PayPal - so European alternative for that is called Moneybookers... They don't allow traffic with US citizens ;-)
There is problem I wait to be solved... Check is to risky for where I live...
My country is not listed on PayPal list :-(
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Come live in Australia.
You've talked to paypal?
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Come live in Australia.
You've talked to paypal?
They have plans - in few to several years to list my country in their list... I can go to pension until then ;D
I am fine here where I am... I believe they will find some way to pay me ;-)
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Do they accept raster or just vector (which I am working on getting it down).
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Yes raster or vecor.
Both sell well.
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Thanks to Dennis for alerting us to this but wondering if there is anyone else with any direct experience of selling there who could give their experience.
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Yes raster or vecor.
Both sell well.
Got hold of Jamie in a Email and asked for some info on it. Gonna see how it works and works out. Thanks for sharing the info and you got a crapload of work on there don't you...lol.
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Thanks to Dennis for alerting us to this but wondering if there is anyone else with any direct experience of selling there who could give their experience.
Take a look at the names in the "portfolio" list and drop them an email.
And Yes I have a lot of images up but plan to have thousands more. That's just the tip of the iceburg
With what I have already I expect to make an easy $1000US a month
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Just saw the post asking for anyone else's experiences with Clipartof.com. I've been with Jamie and Kenny for almost 2 years now and have been averaging around $1000 per month for most of the last year. I worked with them both when they were with the previous agency and followed them to this site and have never regretted it. Jamie will bend over backwards to help out with anything and she even does the key wording, etc., I just upload and they take care of the rest. They even featured my work on a website that they put up and maintain, how can you beat that? The income from their sites have eclipsed any other stock site that I've been affiliated with after the first few months! In a business where 99% of the start-ups fail within a short time, Jamie & Kenny have the magic touch and have worked wonders! I would work with them in any endeavor they start and would feel privileged to be asked!
Dennis Cox
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Hey Dennis.
Thanks for the back up.
Love your work.
Dennis Holmes ;D
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Hi yalls,
The above posts haven't even scratched the surface on just how good clipartof.com is. Its been my personal gem of a site and I haven't told many people about it. I think its close to two years now I've been with them, if not two years.
I can't make my earnings on clipartof.com public in this forum, but if you want to send them an inquiry Jamie is certainly welcome to let you know what I'm averaging monthly if you are interested.
Its also surprising to see them being talked about on this board. They are definitely much different than microstock sites in the way they function on a personal level, and Jamie (and the unsung hero Kenny) are both wonderful people to deal with. I don't think of them as a microstock site.
There are other benefits with clipartof.com:
One you guys will really like -- They don't reject your submissions. For some reason (and this probably sounds ludicrous to other sites out there) they actually give you the benefit of the doubt that as an accomplished artist you might actually know what your doing! So if you submit something unorthodox or dare I say "not suitable for stock" under the general consensus, they are still happy to take it no harm done.
They are stable
They sell your images in sets and as part of other sets. Again, no point in going into depth on a public forum, but it works.
There are other benefits to being there I probably shouldn't name right off the bat in a forum, but to make a long story short, these guys are a true gem.
I've referred a few artists, but two in particular who are well known in the microstock community. They've also found it to be a gem among the sites of this sort.
Leo
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Yes Leo,
Jamie classes it as a midsock. Unfortunately I have not found similar. I don't think I will.
Dennis
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Jamie will bend over backwards to help out with anything and she even does the key wording, etc., I just upload and they take care of the rest.
Do you mean that they actually keyword submissions themselves, that is, contributors cannot choose their own keywords?...
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No I'm saying that is what I did. I have a chronic illness and find somethings hard to manage.
If you want to keyword, tag or whatever it is entirely your option.
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Ah, I see. That's cool then, though one thing is not clear for me:
why under the images, in the section "image tags", some keywords (or "tags") are clickable and lead to new results, while others are not?... :)
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:-[ I just got emailed back and they are looking for vector artists. I don't feel up-to-par with my vector skills, so I mostly do raster.
Guess I'll just have to work on it over the summer and then try again.
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:-[ I just got emailed back and they are looking for vector artists. I don't feel up-to-par with my vector skills, so I mostly do raster.
Guess I'll just have to work on it over the summer and then try again.
You mean they are looking ONLY for vector artists? 3d illustrations do not count?
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I think you'll find they are looking have 3d and raster.
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Hi Thanks Dennis for letting me know about clipartof...
Jamie just made my account ready for use...
Indeed great and quick respons and help from Jamie....
Some info for all about IRS form:
Yes you have to fill in the W8BEN form but you don't need to fill in the ITIN number.
Hope my vectors are quick online and ready for sale...
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Ah, I see. That's cool then, though one thing is not clear for me:
why under the images, in the section "image tags", some keywords (or "tags") are clickable and lead to new results, while others are not?... :)
Ask them :)
I'm not 100% up on all they do. I also have fibromyalgia and don't think clearly on technical stuff.
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:o Just a quick note. If you have contacted Clipartof.com please be aware they have been flooded with emails and will contact you back as soon as they can.
Their working their butts of. ::)
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:-[ I just got emailed back and they are looking for vector artists. I don't feel up-to-par with my vector skills, so I mostly do raster.
Guess I'll just have to work on it over the summer and then try again.
Did you show them samples?
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Ah, I see. That's cool then, though one thing is not clear for me:
why under the images, in the section "image tags", some keywords (or "tags") are clickable and lead to new results, while others are not?... :)
Ask them :)
I'm not 100% up on all they do. I also have fibromyalgia and don't think clearly on technical stuff.
Donīt let that illnes make you belive thereīs things you cannot do. You seem to blame every thing thatīs a bit hard or boring on fibromyalgia. ( A bit hard to understand, and Im sure youīve heard it before)
My body also screams after two hours keywording. If it makes you feel better :-[ Your a great artist btw :)
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Don't let that illness make you believe there's things you cannot do. You seem to blame every thing that's a bit hard or boring on fibromyalgia. ( A bit hard to understand, and I'm sure you've heard it before)
My body also screams after two hours keywording. If it makes you feel better :-[ Your a great artist BTW :)
Do you know what fibromayalgia is? It's cost me my 20 year marriage, my house and 90% of my life.
It's not things I find boring or hard. IT'S EVERYTHING!
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Don't let that illness make you believe there's things you cannot do. You seem to blame every thing that's a bit hard or boring on fibromyalgia. ( A bit hard to understand, and I'm sure you've heard it before)
My body also screams after two hours keywording. If it makes you feel better :-[ Your a great artist BTW :)
Do you know what fibromayalgia is? It's cost me my 20 year marriage, my house and 90% of my life.
It's not things I find boring or hard. IT'S EVERYTHING!
My motherīs got it. Noone really knows what it is it seems. Itīs so many things...
Iīm sorry, I shouldnīt have wrote the previous post but, Iīve just heard so many times (from my mother) how hard things are to do. When things she enjoys is easy, and works like a charm. Your issue may be total different, and I appologize for not be able to shut up.
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Don't let that illness make you believe there's things you cannot do. You seem to blame every thing that's a bit hard or boring on fibromyalgia. ( A bit hard to understand, and I'm sure you've heard it before)
My body also screams after two hours keywording. If it makes you feel better :-[ Your a great artist BTW :)
Do you know what fibromayalgia is? It's cost me my 20 year marriage, my house and 90% of my life.
It's not things I find boring or hard. IT'S EVERYTHING!
My motherīs got it. Noone really knows what it is it seems. Itīs so many things...
Iīm sorry, I shouldnīt have wrote the previous post but, Iīve just heard so many times (from my mother) how hard things are to do. When things she enjoys is easy, and works like a charm. Your issue may be total different, and I appologize for not be able to shut up.
:o Maybe in the short periods she feels well she spends it doing something she enjoys? Wouldn't you?
Try looking at it from her side. She complains because it totally drains the life from you. :(
I love to draw and create. Today I was not even able to do that.
AND I was not complaining I was explaining.
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:-[ I just got emailed back and they are looking for vector artists. I don't feel up-to-par with my vector skills, so I mostly do raster.
Guess I'll just have to work on it over the summer and then try again.
Did you show them samples?
Yeah... I pointed her to my shutterstock account where one of my largest portfolios resides...
http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery.mhtml?id=369776 (http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery.mhtml?id=369776)
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:-[ I just got emailed back and they are looking for vector artists. I don't feel up-to-par with my vector skills, so I mostly do raster.
Guess I'll just have to work on it over the summer and then try again.
Did you show them samples?
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Yeah... I pointed her to my shutterstock account where one of my largest portfolios resides...
http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery.mhtml?id=369776 (http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery.mhtml?id=369776)
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I like these and the majority could be created in illustrator. Have you used autotrace
in illustrator?
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I like these and the majority could be created in illustrator. Have you used autotrace
in illustrator?
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I haven't used autotrace with illustrator... I have been dinking around with inkscape a bit... I do have some cowboy illustrations that I just finished that I was thinking I might be able to save each color layer and then combine them in inkscape and then convert them into a vector... I know that there is a way to convert them, I'm just unsure how right at the moment. I am open to any suggestions and brainstorming anyone wants to throw my way... ::)
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I like these and the majority could be created in illustrator. Have you used autotrace
in illustrator?
I haven't used autotrace with illustrator... I have been dinking around with inkscape a bit... I do have some cowboy illustrations that I just finished that I was thinking I might be able to save each color layer and then combine them in inkscape and then convert them into a vector... I know that there is a way to convert them, I'm just unsure how right at the moment. I am open to any suggestions and brainstorming anyone wants to throw my way... ::)
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Inkscape is a toy. In illustator you auto trace straight from your black and white scanned images. If you are serious abot vector, get illutrator even an early version and Adobe streamline would do.
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Some sites (such as istock) have problems with images that are clearly auto-traced (particularly if they have not been cleaned up a lot and stripped of excessive nodes). You might want to keep that in mind if you ever plan to apply there.
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Seems like there is a positive vibe about this website. But I want to make sure.
I have been communicating with Jamie via email, has she communicated with everyone else via a gmail account?
I'm a little worried about giving up account information to someone corresponding for a website through a gmail address.
Thanks.
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Hi,
You have prominant contributers giving feedback.
If you look through their (clipartof) portfolios you will see some popular artist.
If you think it is a problem simply as her why.
I personally don't see your point. If you look at the bottom of their home page you'll see certain information on certification.
This is not a huge funded company like the micro sites here.
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Hi,
You have prominant contributers giving feedback.
If you look through their (clipartof) portfolios you will see some popular artist.
If you think it is a problem simply as her why.
I personally don't see your point. If you look at the bottom of their home page you'll see certain information on certification.
This is not a huge funded company like the micro sites here.
I understand that, thanks for answering.
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Dennis can i make you a personal question?
Do you have anything to do with clipartof or you just try to referral some people there?
Donīt get my wrong but in my opinion you are trying to get some extra money by referral some people (and i donīt see anything wrong with it).
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Dennis can i make you a personal question?
Do you have anything to do with clipartof or you just try to referral some people there?
Donīt get my wrong but in my opinion you are trying to get some extra money by referral some people (and i donīt see anything wrong with it).
I sell my art on clipartof. I think they have a good site and offerer a VERY good deal for artist. (Don't you?) I have no affiliation appart from selling on their site.
They need artists and by way of paying them back for the help they've given me, I thought I'd inform people.
The more artists they have the more business they will get, as will I.
Make sense?
Please don't take this as an insult but not everything is about the $.
If I can help people I will.
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From a business point of view donīt make sense!
From the point of view of helping people, yes make sense!
Donīt get me wrong, if we are at this site is because we accept to change info with people that are our adversaries.
Iīm only curious about your relationship with the site, but you can also doing something that can be bad for you. The business get the same and the money must be divide for more people?
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I don't understand what you mean by - The business get the same and the money must be divide for more people?
The site offers fair quality work at fair prices for all.
I'm not competing with the masses on microstock sites for a few cents.
I also get commission work that comes in.
I have good artwork that sells itself. If people like my work they'll buy it.
I'm yet to see someone who dose my style and I will have a massive amount of images by the end of the year. So this will give me more exposure as well.
So I'm not worried about sharing basically.
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Some sites (such as istock) have problems with images that are clearly auto-traced (particularly if they have not been cleaned up a lot and stripped of excessive nodes). You might want to keep that in mind if you ever plan to apply there.
I was referring my experience with clipartof. 95% of my work is auto-traced.
You just need to adjust it for less nodes and you can always use "simplify" as well.
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The folks at clipartof.com are at the top of my list for many reasons. They are responsive, knowledgeable, and have a great customer base - plus they know how to sell.
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The OP is simply trying to get some referal earnings. That's not to say that anything he says is untrue, but I'm (very) sure Clipartof get more than enough new images through word of mouth. They already have a very substantial backlog of excellent images waiting to be keyworded and put up on the site and I'm sure this que would have only increased with or without the OPs help.
I thought that Jamie always did the keywording, which is really as it should be, avoiding spamming from the outset and giving all the artists a chance to compete on a level playing field.
The images on CAO seem to rank really well on Google image searches too, so this may also be something to do with the way Jamie does the keywording and SEO's the images appropriately.
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The folks at clipartof.com are at the top of my list for many reasons. They are responsive, knowledgeable, and have a great customer base - plus they know how to sell.
This may be, but I'm still waiting for a reply to an email I sent three days ago.
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I am very thankful to the OP because I didn't know about clipartof before.
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The OP is simply trying to get some referal earnings. That's not to say that anything he says is untrue, but I'm (very) sure Clipartof get more than enough new images through word of mouth. They already have a very substantial backlog of excellent images waiting to be keyworded and put up on the site and I'm sure this que would have only increased with or without the OPs help.
I thought that Jamie always did the keywording, which is really as it should be, avoiding spamming from the outset and giving all the artists a chance to compete on a level playing field.
The images on CAO seem to rank really well on Google image searches too, so this may also be something to do with the way Jamie does the keywording and SEO's the images appropriately.
Ask Jamie herself. She wanted artists.
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The folks at clipartof.com are at the top of my list for many reasons. They are responsive, knowledgeable, and have a great customer base - plus they know how to sell.
This may be, but I'm still waiting for a reply to an email I sent three days ago.
She wil get back to you.
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This may be, but I'm still waiting for a reply to an email I sent three days ago.
quote from Jamie - I tried both my gmail and my clipartof email accounts... Tell him to ease up on his spam blocker or to try using another email address.
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For me....Thanks Dennis for mention the site...
Jamie is very helpfull great quick respons through e-mail.
Within a few days she put already some of my vectors online including keywords and discription....
Here a link to my portfolio for some unbelievers...http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/kaycee (http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/kaycee)
Hope with this site I'm lucky so I could quit all other sites or at least remove all the vectors from my other sites....
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For me....Thanks Dennis for mention the site...
Jamie is very helpfull great quick respons through e-mail.
Within a few days she put already some of my vectors online including keywords and discription....
Here a link to my portfolio for some unbelievers...[url]http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/kaycee[/url] ([url]http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/kaycee[/url])
Hope with this site I'm lucky so I could quit all other sites or at least remove all the vectors from my other sites....
You're welcome.
I hope you do well and enjoy the site.
Good luck!
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Just a quick note to anyone who signed up.
It takes a very short while for Google to pickup on the added images,
Once this happens you should expect sales.
;D
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How long does it currently take to review pictures? I uploaded some earlier last week and they are not yet reviewed. But I don't want to be impatient... They are probably drowned in submissions...
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How long does it currently take to review pictures? I uploaded some earlier last week and they are not yet reviewed. But I don't want to be impatient... They are probably drowned in submissions...
It won't be long. I know she has already loading some of the dozen or so that came from this forum.
Nothing wrong with being impatient, just shows yo're keen. Drop Jamie an email, she'll tell you how things are flowing. ;D
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Ok, thanks, I'll do that. ;D
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My first batch went up today:
http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cthoman (http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cthoman)
Thanks Dennis for your promotional rampage. You even found your way onto my blog and posted there. Hopefully, you received a referral fee for me.
-Cory
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My first batch went up today:
[url]http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cthoman[/url] ([url]http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cthoman[/url])
Thanks Dennis for your promotional rampage. You even found your way onto my blog and posted there. Hopefully, you received a referral fee for me.
-Cory
Hopefully the referral fees make up for the loss of income when the number of new competitor files spreads sales out a bit more than they probably are now. ;)
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is that the Jamie Voetsch of Fred and Jamie Voetsch who have acclaim images (macro site)?
anyway she said that are only after 3d or vector for the moment, contact them in a month or so.
Seems that someone has referred a heap of people and they cant keep up LOL
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is that the Jamie Voetsch of Fred and Jamie Voetsch who have acclaim images (macro site)?
anyway she said that are only after 3d or vector for the moment, contact them in a month or so.
Seems that someone has referred a heap of people and they cant keep up LOL
She's not with Acclaimed & they are moving office atm. :D
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As I've said earlier. It's a young site, not a huge business. Things take time.
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My first batch went up today:
[url]http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cthoman[/url] ([url]http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cthoman[/url])
Thanks Dennis for your promotional rampage. You even found your way onto my blog and posted there. Hopefully, you received a referral fee for me.
-Cory
Hopefully the referral fees make up for the loss of income when the number of new competitor files spreads sales out a bit more than they probably are now. ;)
Thanks for your concern but I think we will all do well. :-*
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Dennis, you're so gonna be rich. Smart move. Best of luck to everyone.
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sounds interesting, but since there is no MonyeBookers we the people of dark world ;D don't have a chance
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sounds interesting, but since there is no MonyeBookers we the people of dark world ;D don't have a chance
Did you ask them about MoneyBookers?
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Jamie's great to work with! We worked together at another agency for about a year, and she definitely knew her stuff. Great to see she's doing well.
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My first batch went up today:
[url]http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cthoman[/url] ([url]http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cthoman[/url])
Thanks Dennis for your promotional rampage. You even found your way onto my blog and posted there. Hopefully, you received a referral fee for me.
-Cory
Hopefully the referral fees make up for the loss of income when the number of new competitor files spreads sales out a bit more than they probably are now. ;)
Thanks for your concern but I think we will all do well. :-*
Great of you to take that gamble on behalf of all the other contributors that are already there too!
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Jamie's great to work with! We worked together at another agency for about a year, and she definitely knew her stuff. Great to see she's doing well.
I think you shoud talk to her. I'm sure she woud ike to hear from you.
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My first batch went up today:
[url]http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cthoman[/url] ([url]http://www.clipartof.com/portfolio/cthoman[/url])
Thanks Dennis for your promotional rampage. You even found your way onto my blog and posted there. Hopefully, you received a referral fee for me.
-Cory
Hopefully the referral fees make up for the loss of income when the number of new competitor files spreads sales out a bit more than they probably are now. ;)
Thanks for your concern but I think we will all do well. :-*
Great of you to take that gamble on behalf of all the other contributors that are already there too!
Did you read this post at all?
Are you a contributor to Clipartof?
Are you worried :'(
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Sorry if you didn't get what I was saying, not sure why you think I didn't read the last posts. Someone said they hope that the referal fees would make up for the loss of income more submitters will inevitably bring. I'm sure they will far, far outstrip your loss of income, but for the other existing contributors to the site they will not. So by chosing to refer people in such an open way on a public forum you have screwed over those who were already on the site. That's all I was saying, and I'm sure you know this already.
If I was a contributor of course I'd be worried. It's a site that sets itself apart by firstly having great personal service (kiss that goodbye when there are several hundred times the existing number of contributors) and by charging fairer prices for work than most of the micros (kiss that goodbye too when supply starts to far outstrips demand on the site).
Nothing wrong with what you're doing, there's lots of people making a living in far worse ways on the internet. Good on you for being the first one to decide to exploit your fellows work on this site. It's just a shame for those who decided to stand on the quality of their own work represented at clipartof or to be selective about who they invited to join the site.
edited because "oublic" isn't a word!
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Sorry if you didn't get what I was saying, not sure why you think I didn't read the last posts. Someone said they hope that the referal fees would make up for the loss of income more submitters will inevitably bring. I'm sure they will far, far outstrip your loss of income, but for the other existing contributors to the site they will not. So by chosing to refer people in such an open way on a public forum you have screwed over those who were already on the site. That's all I was saying, and I'm sure you know this already.
If I was a contributor of course I'd be worried. It's a site that sets itself apart by firstly having great personal service (kiss that goodbye when there are several hundred times the existing number of contributors) and by charging fairer prices for work than most of the micros (kiss that goodbye too when supply starts to far outstrips demand on the site).
Nothing wrong with what you're doing, there's lots of people making a living in far worse ways on the internet. Good on you for being the first one to decide to exploit your fellows work on this site. It's just a shame for those who decided to stand on the quality of their own work represented at clipartof or to be selective about who they invited to join the site.
edited because "oublic" isn't a word!
You didn't read the thread or you'd not only seen that I was asked to find artist by clipartof.com. I was doing it as a favour. You understand helping people?
You'd also notice that other contributors had commented as well.
Think what you like about the referrals I DID NOT DO IT FOR THE REFERALS!.
I can quote Jamie in saying that she is going to LIMIT the amount of contributors, so those that joined up are lucky as she is going to be very selective in the future.
She wants focus on her existing artists and not be anything like the large microsites.
She will have her artists create from requests - there are her words!
I do stand on the quality of my work.
I will create over 20,000+ images myself by the end of the year.
People from this forum where excepted for what they offered, for there talent NOT to take up space on the site as that seems to be what you are implying. Quality not quantity.
I exploited no one. Those that kept it to themselves where in a position to exploit it by keeping it quiet.
If everyone thought like you this forum would not exist....would it
You should really have some idea about what you are talking about before you post false accusations.
I'd like to go into more detail about your post but if I said exactly what I was thinking I'd be banned from this forum.
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20,000 quality illustrations by the end of this year?
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20,000 quality illustrations by the end of this year?
Yes. Think it's 630 a week.
Look at the resent uploads at clipartof.
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thanks for correcting me. I had completely misread your motives. You are not doing this for the referals, so your happy for people reading this thread to sign up without letting Jamie know who told them about the site? That's fine then.
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thanks for correcting me. I had completely misread your motives. You are not doing this for the referals, so your happy for people reading this thread to sign up without letting Jamie know who told them about the site? That's fine then.
If you read my post you would know the answer to that.
Do I seriously need to continually go over what I've already stated with you?
Are you sure you are not a contributer? You didn't know anything about Clipartof before this thread?
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The OP is simply trying to get some referal earnings. That's not to say that anything he says is untrue, but I'm (very) sure Clipartof get more than enough new images through word of mouth. They already have a very substantial backlog of excellent images waiting to be keyworded and put up on the site and I'm sure this que would have only increased with or without the OPs help.
I thought that Jamie always did the keywording, which is really as it should be, avoiding spamming from the outset and giving all the artists a chance to compete on a level playing field.
The images on CAO seem to rank really well on Google image searches too, so this may also be something to do with the way Jamie does the keywording and SEO's the images appropriately.
You're 100% sure you are not a contributor?
It's mid stock not micro.
Note the date.....still sure.
And you where aware I was not the first to mention Clipartof on this forum.
For someone who is not contributor you seem know allot and complain allot
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What? When did I say I wasn't a contributor !? I didn't say either way. If I am a contributor surely that adds more, not less weight to what I'm saying.
I notice you pretty sharply changed your last posts from a simple "YES" to an attack on me. hmmmm interesting
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it appears this discussion has been reduced to a petty argument.