Author Topic: What do you think of Acanvas digital picture frames of FAA (Read 6674 times)

Dragomir Nikolov · « **on:** December 25, 2016, 08:12 »

I have just noticed today Acanvas digital picture frames, offered me by FineArtAmerica. And...The royalty rate is $0.00005 per minute per image. After that you can read that this isn't a bad money - "That number looks very low, but it adds up quickly. Let's see how it works. There are roughly 43,200 minutes in an average month. If a buyer selects your image and displays it on his digital picture frame for the entire month, you would earn $0.00005 x 43,200 = $2.16 from that single device for that month. Now, if 100 different buyers did that, you would earn $216 for the month. That's not an enormous number, but it's not too shabby, either. Keep in mind, the Acanvas digital picture frame is being manufactured by a very well known electronics manufacturer (LG) who will be putting their full marketing might behind making this product a success and getting it into as many homes as possible. I think that FAA kills yourself with this product. What will be motive of buyer to buy a print when he can received for 2$ per month. Internet kills paper newspapers, the same begin to happen with our images. Digital future is as a low cost air plane company. Merry Christmas!

ShadySue · « **Reply #1 on:** December 25, 2016, 08:39 »

Compared a commercial company using your image in ads for which you could get as low as 25c SS or as low as 2c via iS indie subs or <1c via Getty Connect, it's a relatively good deal - though I don't like it any more than you do.
What chance is there that 100 people will choose the same pic? Is there some sort of tracking within the device as to how long each pic is used for? That sounds far too Big Brother to me and possibly for a proportion of buyers.

stockastic · « **Reply #2 on:** December 25, 2016, 14:36 »

It's almost hard to believe this announcement is serious; it reads like an Onion story. Let's get real - $0.00005 per minute is indistinguishable from zero. In the very unlikely event that someone likes your image so much they keep it up on the display for an entire month, the contributor gets the staggering sum of $2.16.

It's not hard to imagine Sean Broihier (the guy behind FAA) laughing to himself as he wrote "That number looks very low, but it adds up quickly."

One very enthusiastic guy just posted on the FAA forum: "The payout rate is 7.2 cents per day. [...] This is a substantial payout. Sean did an excellent job negotiating for us. I think this is a great opportunity. " A contributor who left negative comments in response was warned, by an admin, to stop posting in the thread; they only want positive reaction.

Broihier is getting paid for "content" by the company selling these display panels, but we'll never know how much. He's offering his contributors basically nothing. So let's call this what it is: sucker bait.

ShadySue · « **Reply #3 on:** December 25, 2016, 15:01 »

And anyway, small sales can lead to negatives by the time they've gone through PayPal, especially if currency conversion has to be factored in. I raised my minimum prices on greetings cards and all non-prints for that reason. (Better to get nothing than a negative if you just get one tiny sale in a month.)

I'm on my phone - hopefully we don't have to opt in to this scheme?

stockastic · « **Reply #4 on:** December 25, 2016, 15:02 »

Apparently it showed up suddenly, with everyone "opted in" by default - there was a bit of kickback, and the default was changed to "opted out".

ShadySue · « **Reply #5 on:** December 26, 2016, 16:07 »

Quote from: stockastic on December 25, 2016, 15:02

Apparently it showed up suddenly, with everyone "opted in" by default - there was a bit of kickback, and the default was changed to "opted out".

thanks.
Back on computer. Didn't get an email bout this Acanvas deal - usually I get an email when FAA introduces some new 'product'.
Did others get an informatory email?
If not, as the original default was to be opted in, were they trying to sneak it past us?

Googling aCanvas UK gives me no results, so that's something else my US-sparse portfolio won't do well in. No-brainer for me.

stockastic · « **Reply #6 on:** December 26, 2016, 16:13 »

Quote from: ShadySue on December 26, 2016, 16:07

Quote from: stockastic on December 25, 2016, 15:02
Apparently it showed up suddenly, with everyone "opted in" by default - there was a bit of kickback, and the default was changed to "opted out".
thanks.
Back on computer. Didn't get an email bout this Acanvas deal - usually I get an email when FAA introduces some new 'product'.
Did others get an informatory email?
If not, as the original default was to be opted in, were they trying to sneak it past us?

Googling aCanvas UK gives me no results, so that's something else my US-sparse portfolio won't do well in. No-brainer for me.

I didn't get an email, I don't think anyone did. Next time we logged on we saw the announcement and found out we'd been opted in. So yes, it was announced but clearly the hope was that people wouldn't pay much attention and just stay 'in' by default.

I expect only more of this sort of stuff from FAA and I'm actually sort of surprised we can still opt out. I'm really, really hoping for a serious competitor in 2017 because if FAA finally just morphs into Zazzle, I have no place to go. I have everything on Crated.com but never sell anything there.

trek · « **Reply #7 on:** December 26, 2016, 16:43 »

Seems unlikely anyone will make anything from the Acanvas deal. I opted out and will watch from the sideline.

Also, I removed my editorial content (signs and certain landmarks) when FAA changed from one off art prints to include mugs and merchandise.