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Topic: Zazzle's "most popular" ranking, please advise  

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« on: August 05, 2010, 18:47 »

ok, I've been on Zazzle for a while now (8 months) and I'm selling items on a regular basis but I want more sales.

I have almost 6000 items in my shop and 99.9% is my stock material which means that the images are "not lousy" in terms of technical quality.

Now that alone is not a ticket to wealth at Zazzle (obviously...) but another very "basic" principle is driving me nuts: their search results.

I don't want to belittle other people's work nor am I saying my work is better than others' but I have to show an example to prove this point.

If you search with the keyword "fun" in the category "T-shirts", sorted by "popular" gives me some of those results I can't wrap my head around.

Take result #4 - a photo of the front of a Peugeot with the word "ownage" underneath it. I'm not saying that it's a bad design - I just wonder how this shirt can outsell all the following results?

Check the following result pages. Already on page 2 I see more "artistic" or "funnier" shirts than that car one.

Supposedly the ranking is calculated by a mix of sales numbers, views, votes and other stuff we don't know about.

Now, if you click on the portfolio of that Zazzle member with the Peugeot car you see that "he" has only two designs in "his" store.

Is this just a fluke or did somebody with 2 designs on Zazzle turn up on #4 for the keyword fun out of 1.9 million search results crack the code (or the algorithm)?

I'm pretty sure whoever knows the most important factors of Zazzle search won't tell them here but maybe you want to share anything regarding this.

Again, I think all the images in this example look great and I respect the designer. I'm just trying to paint a scenario here.
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 19:02 »

ok, I've been on Zazzle for a while now (8 months) and I'm selling items on a regular basis but I want more sales.

I have almost 6000 items in my shop and 99.9% is my stock material which means that the images are "not lousy" in terms of technical quality.


What for you means on regular basis?
Or did you or how many times you reach payment?


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madelaide
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 19:06 »

I confess I haven't paid much attention to their search engine, but I never managed to find any of my designs in it.

Another issue in the results, especially with t-shirts, it's the excess of variations of the same design (same design in different types and colors of t-shirts). I do put four variations (man, woman, child, baby), but sometimes we see a full page of results or more.

I suppose people who post their products in their social networks receive extra clicks and this may have a significant boost in their performance.


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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 19:12 »

What for you means on regular basis?
...

Daily sales.


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Suljo


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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 19:23 »

What for you means on regular basis?
...

Daily sales.

Wow  Tongue
does they have referal program for submitters thru you link?
Madeleide have advantage in this case   Tongue
Send me both PM with ref link and Ill toss coin  Grin
Belive me or not I never open this site and dont know what is all about......


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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2010, 19:32 »

I believe the only referral link is if you would buy from me and not for referring a new contributor...


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madelaide
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 20:07 »

The referral is only for buyers, but anyway: http://www.zazzle.com/madelaide*


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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 20:10 »

ok, I've been on Zazzle for a while now (8 months) and I'm selling items on a regular basis but I want more sales.

I have almost 6000 items in my shop and 99.9% is my stock material which means that the images are "not lousy" in terms of technical quality.

Now that alone is not a ticket to wealth at Zazzle (obviously...) but another very "basic" principle is driving me nuts: their search results.

I don't want to belittle other people's work nor am I saying my work is better than others' but I have to show an example to prove this point.

If you search with the keyword "fun" in the category "T-shirts", sorted by "popular" gives me some of those results I can't wrap my head around.

Take result #4 - a photo of the front of a Peugeot with the word "ownage" underneath it. I'm not saying that it's a bad design - I just wonder how this shirt can outsell all the following results?

Check the following result pages. Already on page 2 I see more "artistic" or "funnier" shirts than that car one.

Supposedly the ranking is calculated by a mix of sales numbers, views, votes and other stuff we don't know about.

Now, if you click on the portfolio of that Zazzle member with the Peugeot car you see that "he" has only two designs in "his" store.

Is this just a fluke or did somebody with 2 designs on Zazzle turn up on #4 for the keyword fun out of 1.9 million search results crack the code (or the algorithm)?

I'm pretty sure whoever knows the most important factors of Zazzle search won't tell them here but maybe you want to share anything regarding this.

Again, I think all the images in this example look great and I respect the designer. I'm just trying to paint a scenario here.

That is rather strange. There aren't even any comments in the store. Maybe we need to spend all night clicking on each others stuff to make it to the top of the search chain. That just doesn't make sense.


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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 20:19 »

Sorry in this case, I want to help you as contributor not as buyer.
Maybe to buy few head shoots of parrot chicks from Madeleide for my new avatar  Grin
During vacation I have much bore jobs to do, eg to equalise ports on new sites with old ones and go thru keywords to improve it and compare rejections on this "big" 4.
After that, lets say in mid of the new year I can maybe think about contributing on Zazzle...
THNX anyhow


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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010, 22:11 »

I have a 90 birthday party invitation that has had 65 sales. If you search on 90th birthday party invitation, one of my cards that has never had a sale appears halfway down the page, and the card with 65 sales cannot be seen! Very odd.


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