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Great...anything to make it easier is welcome....now if Adobe would only start accepting editorial videos  :)

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Yes, and the slow review time is very counter-productive....you want to try different ideas/concepts to see what works from a sales point of view. The fact that reviews take weeks really slows down that process.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Filter Adobe Port for AI only?
« on: April 15, 2024, 22:00 »
Thanks!

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Adobe Stock / Filter Adobe Port for AI only?
« on: April 15, 2024, 09:28 »
Is there a way when looking at your Adobestock port to filter it for AI content only?

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Does anyone know if you shoot a video (or for that matter stills) on an Android phone, is any of your user info/data embedded in the file created on the Android phone?

Do we need to be concerned from a security standpoint about uploading an unmodified photo or video file to a stock agency directly from your phone?

Thanks!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Anybody getting reviews?
« on: April 08, 2024, 15:25 »
Beats the 20 days waiting for AS to review.

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I am still in the early stages of learning about midjourney. While you cannot get a series with a specific model you can get a theme of files with similar vibe, colors, lighting.

Midjourney people files still need a lot processing, I get a lot of great looking files, then on close up discover all kinds of issues with broken teeth, weird fingers growing out of a neck, strange details on clothes. The experssions are better than on stable, but far from perfect.

But the biggest challenge is to get faces that not everybody has. It feels like Mj just has 10 faces to choose from for a given age and ethnic type.

I am also trying to do more with Adobe and next week I have my first real shooting with a camera again.

But like I said before, the main focus for this year will be ai illustrations and to learn what I can offer that people will then like to buy. Every illustration sale, is a sale I would not have had otherwise.

They are selling very, very slowly, even the holiday files sell slow. But I believe it will pay off eventually, once the initial files have laid their roots across the algos, which will probably take 3 years.

Regarding "number of faces", this is one thing I don't get. I have also seen on Firefly where faces get almost repeated. With all the vast quantity of images these tools are trained on, how is it that they get stuck with a limited number of "faces"? Is it some kind of "flaw in the logic" of how they work? Is it a bug? If you take human artist, say painter, they don't repeat faces in their work, yet AI seems to do that. Maybe it's some kind of short cut in the algorithms which leeds to this? Just curious.

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AI Generated Stock Photography / "The Same People"....
« on: April 02, 2024, 13:08 »
Why is it that sometimes the AI tools (I have used Firefly 2.0) seem to generate the "same person" or very similar looking people multiple times? Aren't they trained on some huge number of different images?

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Adobe Stock / Adobe Firefly Results Variation
« on: March 27, 2024, 21:53 »
is it me or does it seem like at times Firefly produces decent results and at other times it's near impossible to get something usable?

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I think if an agency that is selling AI images is seeing a sales boom, then agencies that are not selling AI content soon will be selling AI content.

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It seems that AI sales haven't overly hurt sales of non-AI images which is a nice thing!
That also implies a big win for Adobestock in additional revenue. I also wonder how
contributors (especially exclusive) at other agencies that don't allow AI uploads feel about it?

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1 good day and 4 slow days somehow kept me at good ranking this week.

My advice to newbies is to listen to people who are doing well and at least much better than you. 
Also look at contributors on Top Seller list and figure out why they are doing well.
https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/en/insights/best/contributors

Just copying their bestsellers may not bring you $$ because everybody may be doing the same and the market is saturated with similar images already.  It can be hit or miss and big disappointment in my own experience.  So, find your niche also and come up with your original idea.  Don't listen to those who never post their ranking here but keep talking crap here.  They may be doing only 1/10 as good as you are.  There's no point in taking any advice from them.

Wow very impressed. How many files you have?

About 2 million photos.
I produce about 1,000 AI photos everyday.
I automate the production with prompt producing AI.  So, I just upload and tag.  I sleep like 2hrs/day.

How many AI images can you send to Adobe per day for review?And what is your acceptance rate?

You know I was just kidding with those numbers, right?  I've already gave my port size number a few times on previous posts.

yes of course,that's why I asked! :D

Do you have an approval rate on reviewed content?mine is about 85%,of content accepted out of the total reviewed,but I dedicate time to every single piece of AI content.

ok when I have time I will try to read everything... I never have time for anything,I'm always making content,my girlfriend is pissed off like a beast! :D

I don't think there's a limit for upload.  I usually upload average of 50-200 AI images at a time per day when I upload.  I don't upload everyday.  Overall AI image approval rate for this year probably is 70% or so.  I only use photo editing software for AI images if I need to remove brand logo.  So, 99% of the time, I just upscale, convert to jpeg and upload.

in fact there is no limit,and this unfortunately slows down the review process a lot,as far as I know,it's not possible for reviewers to know who sent what,so it's not possible to quantify how much you're sending for reviewers.

so only upscale then convert to jpeg index and send?and don't you think that the content you send will be easily surpassed over time by content on which someone has spent more time?

in any case this is also a strategy,you go more on quantity for AI content,ok,I believe that it is not the best strategy over time,I believe that 100 contents in which you have lost at least a week are better than 1000 contents in a week.

if you want advice from someone who certainly knows less than you,because I'm sure you have more experience than me,I would advise you at this point to slow down,and focus more on quality,because you already have thousands of contents for sale,if you continue in the same way you just continue to do what you have already done! :)

In general, I don't edit stock materials much.  If exposure and color is good, just submit.  We are providing base materials for users to edit on their own.  So, for AI photos, mostly exposure and color is perfect already.  I just check for extra/missing fingers, brand logos and submit.  Reason for rejection probably are due to too many similar photo Adobe has already.  So, I'd rather quickly increase my portfolio than slow down.  My photo revenue is up 60-70% now compared to 6 months ago after adding 60-70% more photos mostly AI generated.  So, my strategy is working.  I pay $120/month for Midjourney.  So, I better generate images fast and upload en masse while I pay that much to Midjourney.

Btw, how many images do you have in your portfolio?

Actually, what's interesting about your stats is that you increased your port by X% and your revenue went up roughly an equivalent X%. It seems that you weren't particularly impacted in a negative way by all the AI competition. This is more or less consistent with what I have seen. I have added very little AI content so far, but haven't seen much of a negative impact revenue-wise by the onslaught of all the AI submissions. Maybe the answer is that the percentage of AI content in Adobe is still a small number.

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I agree that Adobe is a fantastic agency, but so was Shutterstock. When I left istock I had the privilege of meeting some people from Shutterstock, they were absolutely delightful and VERY open to any form of suggestions and open critique. That was the main difference for me.

But it looks like all the people I met have left and they closed the forums anyway and don't seem to have people like Mat or even a discord channel to interact with producers.

I hope Adobe stays the way they are, but did you ever expect SS to have such a drastic change? Ever? They were really successful, people had 50k files only with them because they liked SS so much and felt so well treated.

Or look at eyeem - they were a great place with amazing content, but had to close down. We will see if freepik can revive the place. I hope so. We are lucky that at least it was sold not just dissolved. But many artists relied on their eyeem earnings and never diversified.

Suddenly the money is gone. And for some it was over 1000 dollars a month.

However, my friends who are photo exclusive with istock/getty still make a full time living.  So Getty has consistently sent them a full time income, including all the costs needed for production. It might be less than a few years ago, but it still works well for many people I know.

So for all the aggressiveness towards Getty it is important to acknowledge that they have very regular sales and still quite a few very unusual high priced sales.

In a combined shoot with friends I will do few photos, but many videos that can go everywhere. Or probably just directly to BB and let them sort it out. They really are good with sales.

I currently have 68 files in the queue. Most of the easter files will probably arrive after easter now. But I am sure customers will collect them for their 2025 projects.

Again I am sorry how getty treated you. I don't think the old istock would have done that.

Regarding iS, I do have to wonder how the members are viewing the threat from AI....do they have an "answer" for that?

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Dreamstime.com / Re: $100 payout minimum sucks!!!
« on: March 09, 2024, 09:49 »
Generally speaking, it seems a fair payout system would be something like meeting a minimum amount in $$$$ or a minimum amount in time (e.g. a payout once a month if you do not meet a $$ minimum).

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Interesting and useful feedback! Another factor to consider is that presumably, the AI photos have been available for a relatively short time vs. actual photos?

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In 2 3 years from now Stock photography will be completely dead. This is so disruptive that nobody will loose time scouting a huge database when with a few promts you will get what you want and nearly free.

The only type of stock photography that will survive is editorial. This might be the reason SS is buying editorial agencies because they know the creation of images and video will be of Open AI, Google and the likes. The stock sites are irrelevant. Not Getty nor SS will survive this Tsunami. May be Adobe because they are a powerful software company that might battle the giants.
I think they have no chance against OpenAI or Google

This is game over Weird that some people do not understand that already

Perhaps, but what takes more time, what really is the time comparison between "scouting a database" (which btw will likely return strong results since it's top results are images which are desirable by virtue of sales)
and typing in a prompt and looking through all the results find a desirable image (never-mind the artifact issues)? I think ultimately you are probably correct, the question becomes how soon will it happen.

I also wonder ultimately how the cost comparison breaks out (generating AI images vs. purchasing stock)?

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@cobalt
I wish I had your wisdom and a level head, but hope its not too late 🤣 Seems that Adobe doesnt give information easy, I like puzzles, hope to figure this one out as well.
From my limited experience, I can share that a couple of my images are on the first page of search with 5 million results. They sit there and sell poorly. My bestseller is on page 7 and outsells them 6 times over per month. It doesnt move up to better pages. How it is possible, I dont understand. It sells always for 0.37 so may be its from the link outside and Adobe doesnt count it? (but they fade to nothing in about 6 months, thats disappointing for passive income ) I also have a couple images in Featured searches and they also sell poorly compared to bestsellers.
I cant pin point what exactly will sell: I create 5 different images on a subject that I know will sell, but which image will take off - I cant predict. Many times my perfect favorite images didnt sell at all and I spent days painting them. I have only one AI image that became a bestseller (heavily edited) Im yet to repeat that again, but Im trying! Ah, and I make more $ now than when my account was featured on top sellers list.
Its all quite confusing. I would sure would love to see ports that keep on selling the same images for years and years. Its nice to know that they exist

Could it be that perhaps the search terms you use when you see your images on page 'X' are not the search terms being used by buyers? Perhaps the majority of buyers are using different search terms when they find your images to buy?

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It is certainly a bit scary, there are people who likely never picked up a camera uploading AI imagery, and there will be people who will automate the process, probably happening already. This same level of concern should also be hitting the agencies who don't allow uploading of AI imagery, I suspect that will change as well....at some point all agencies will accept it.

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I am still on a 20 day queue for photos.

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Adobe Stock / Re: 2023 Adobe Stock contributor bonus plan details
« on: February 20, 2024, 16:11 »
The "virtual robot" should eventually give up and ask you for a phone number for a support person to call you. At least that's what happened in my case I think.

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Adobe Stock / Re: 2023 Adobe Stock contributor bonus plan details
« on: February 20, 2024, 13:14 »
I had the same problem. After some time chatting with Adobe support, the first person I was chatting with ended the chat (I assume accidentally). I started a new chat with someone else and was eventually told that she would have to cancel the new plan that was created by the bonus code and that I would receive an email in 5-7 days containing a new code that I would need to enter in the system. She said that the new code would extend my existing plan.

Sounds like some people had a better, quicker resolution and were able to get the plan extended during the chat.  Guess it depends on which support person you get. 


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The support person I spoke with gave me a similar solution (cancel secondary plan and a new code in about a week). However when I (hopefully) get my new code I'm gonna hold onto it until I near the expiration date for my current plan. Don't want to have to go through that again!...also I don't recall my support person saying that the new code would not create the overlap/2nd plan problem.

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Adobe Stock / Re: 2023 Adobe Stock contributor bonus plan details
« on: February 19, 2024, 10:37 »
Thank you Mat,

As I got all the creative apps I have a question:

I already have a subscription for photoshop and lightroom on the same account, will this payment stop automatically or do I have to cancel this subscription?

This question has been asked in a couple of different ways here and the answer applies to all. If the subscription you currently have is EXACTLY the same as the new subscription provided with the bonus code, then you can redeem the bonus code and the expiration date will simply extend by 1 year.

If however, the subscription you have is different in any way (such as the amount of cloud storage included) then redeeming the bonus code will open a new subscription running in parallel with the old one. You need to cancel the old subscription or you will continue to pay for it.

As many of you have discovered, the codes are applied to the contributor portal for those who have qualified. Thank you to everyone for your active contribution and helping to make Adobe Stock what it is. We are truly grateful to you for your efforts and hope you enjoy the year of Creative Cloud!

As always, stay creative!

Mat Hayward

Mat,

Based on my experience, it can be tricky. I thought my current plan was the "generic photography plan". However, I did run into the parallel subscription issue. I think what may have happened is that the "generic photography plan" of a year ago is not exactly the same as the "generic photography plan" of today....so I ended up with a parallel subscription.

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Adobe Stock / Re: 2023 Adobe Stock contributor bonus plan details
« on: February 19, 2024, 10:09 »
Okay, my current Photography plan expires October 2024. I just redeemed my new code (photography plan). Instead of extending my current plan, it left my current
plan intact (expiring on 10/24) and added a 2nd plan which expires 2/25. This is not what I wanted! I wanted to just extend out my current plan.

How do I fix this?

Thanks (I do appreciate the bonus btw)

I contacted support and they seem to be taking care of this.
The lesson learned is that apparently when you use a code, the plan stars immediately, even if you already have an active plan.

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Adobe Stock / Re: 2023 Adobe Stock contributor bonus plan details
« on: February 19, 2024, 09:29 »
Okay, my current Photography plan expires October 2024. I just redeemed my new code (photography plan). Instead of extending my current plan, it left my current
plan intact (expiring on 10/24) and added a 2nd plan which expires 2/25. This is not what I wanted! I wanted to just extend out my current plan.

How do I fix this?

Thanks (I do appreciate the bonus btw)

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