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« on: Yesterday at 00:57 »
a) Your question is too generic and broad.
b) Most people don't know the answer to the question you are asking, unless you were asking agencies specifically to divulge that information. And if individuals knew - they probably wouldn't share their hard research because you are too lazy to do it yourself.
c) Sounds like you don't really know what "AI" is. The "AI" images are basically massive theft & "blending" of images together (from 'models' created from that theft), and one of the big "problems" "AI" tools have is how to get rid of "copyright notices" (aka watermarks) to try and hide their theft.
d) Answering the very generic/broad question you have... Some sales are up, some are down, and some haven't really changed. Depends on the subject matter, trends, competition numbers, niches, artistic/commercial value, agency cuts/"good news" broad-casts, etc, etc.
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« on: Yesterday at 00:21 »
1. re: cobalt stating "2,000 ppl making $1k or less from adobe" - how did the ppl in the forum arrive @ that number? seems like pulling #'s out of their butt unless they have some direct inside knowledge. of course - I am not sure what the # would be - just curious how they arrived @ those conclusions?
2. re: rankings - looking, I think my "best" rank was around 200th or so - but just looking @ my numbers, in some ways that is rather irrelevant, because
a) "income" is not really related to rank... looking @ some of my stats, my (weekly) income was actually higher one week @ rank 1000 than when I was @ rank ~200...
b) "income" also depends on a whole bunch of factors... do you luck out and get people purchasing full one-time non sub licenses (i.e., so you get a $30 sale), or is it a whole bunch of $0.33 subs... (i.e., you could get "500" downloads, but @ $0.33/a pop = $165 usd. conversely, if they were all $30 net sales to you, that is 500 @ $30 each = $1500 usd).
c) in some cases it is very seasonal, i.e., say Easter, when "everyone" is downloading Easter bunnies & Jesus pictures, versus say mother's day where it is all about flowers, etc... so you get "lucky" because YOUR picture of Jesus with an Easter bunny is more popular than the other 5,000,000 people with pictures of Jesus & an Easter bunny...
d) There is some degree of "luck" involved. While there are certain principles that are important (good subject, good lighting, trending, good keywords, etc) - sometimes you just have a picture that due to the mysterious nature of adobe's algorithms takes off, while others don't... if I knew the "magic formula" - obviously lol I'd only produce consistent "best sellers"...
There are certain topics which I know are being pushed by the blackrock/vanguard/WEF/UN/etc (the 'pyschotic' board of people) agenda, which "could" make extra $$$, but just choose not to participate in (i.e., the gay/trans/miscegnation crap designed to try & break up families/etc to make ppl easier to control)... others though - don't care - and they just want $$$ and keep pumping out some weird gay/trans/miscegnation crap... simply because some of the weirder, more perverted crap is really being pushed hard... some profiles seem to be pure perverted trans/gay crap... but - I guess they have to live with that - "that" is their "legacy"...
Anyhoo...
Only thing I would take from "rankings" is:
a) if you are ranked "higher" - meaning your downloads are higher relative to everyone else - means specifically with the "adobe" crowd of customers - you are providing the content they want. (Just because it sells @ adobe doesn't mean it would necessarily sell as well elsewhere - the adobe crowd tends to have specific tastes/styles/etc).
b) if you are consistently ranked "high" - it probably means you are consistently doing something correctly that is in demand.
c) bragging rights to make yourself "feel" better if you see you are "doing better" than someone else...
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« on: April 09, 2024, 21:51 »
The solution actually would be pretty simple.
(a) Don't allow signups from east india (because that tends to be the "business model" there, steal as much as you can, pass it off as your own and hope you don't get caught. if you do, fake an id to make another account and do the same thing). of course, it's not "only" east indians, and not "all" of them do that - but educated (& experienced) guess I'd say is about 60-75%. Another 30% tends to be from very specific arabic countries.
(b) Super easy to vet anyone from submitting another's work.
But - part of the "game" right now is a bunch of pyschos trying to push the "digitalID" - so they WANT people stealing - because then they can manipulate people into "demanding" that their content be kept safe... look @ blackrock/vangaurd/alladin project/wef/un/etc...
But it is actually quite easy to prevent that kind of thing from happening.
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« on: April 08, 2024, 07:23 »
Tried it with my own files to check how my images are described and what those prompts then create. Thankfully the resulting files were very different. Same genre but not copies.
I also test my image descriptions and titles to see if they create duplicates then modify my titles to be more generic if the results are too close.
I keep browsing their public explore gallery for interesting prompts, then modify them for my own purposes. I never go for copies, I always want the style and vibe for something very different, often a different genre altogether.
But there is a lot to learn about lighting, mood, composition directions. The more specific, the better the results. My descriptions are becoming longer and longer.
eta
now dropped to 5180
that is a low I have not seen in a very long time
Yeah, it's really interesting to browse on the Discord Channel. I love it. Really great to learn and get inspiration.
What kinda brutal is, how many user are now generating banners for youtube, linkedin, social media, etc.
And the most brutal is, how often Midjourney is generating really good stuff, which looks like it is photoshopped.
What I didn't know about Midjourney is, that you can "transfer" image effects of generated images to another.
Some users are creating complex effects, which normally are created with Photoshop's layer blending options.
I believe normal, boring stock photos / images will drop a lot in sales in the future. One have to create unique creative stuff.
And that's why companies like Midjourney, ChatGPT, etc - should be accountable/comepensate the users they stole their materials from, on a perpetual, recurring basis - the same income they expect to get from having stolen it from other people... the "man in the middle" thing (i.e., they got the images from a "research" company, aka "stealing") is total b.s. designed to try and it make it appear they didn't steal stuff, when in fact, they did, and they do. Their business is based off of theft.
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« on: April 08, 2024, 07:20 »
I'm currently browsing on Midjourney's Discrod Channel to find some interesting prompts, which I would use as basis and modify on my own.
Found several persons using the describe function with some Adobe Stock thumbnails to generate prompts.
Lol, people are just copycats.
Is someone here using this function too?
... as he says that in the same breath and sentence while saying "I'm currently browsing on Midjourney's Discrod Channel to find some interesting prompts"... 
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« on: April 05, 2024, 22:49 »
Regarding "number of faces", this is one thing I don't get. I have also seen on Firefly where faces get almost repeated. With all the vast quantity of images these tools are trained on, how is it that they get stuck with a limited number of "faces"? Is it some kind of "flaw in the logic" of how they work? Is it a bug? If you take human artist, say painter, they don't repeat faces in their work, yet AI seems to do that. Maybe it's some kind of short cut in the algorithms which leeds to this? Just curious.
It's because... and many people still don't seem to get this - the "ai" isn't actually "ai" - it's essentially just stealing billions of images, and "blending" them together. It doesn't "understand" what you are asking - it just looks for certain tags (i.e., "black person", "white person") associated with the images it's stolen, "blends" them together, to make a black/white/etc person... that's greatly simplified (because it first creates "models" of the stolen material), but that's basically it.
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« on: April 05, 2024, 08:14 »
So, the buyers who search Pond5 are here to find clips they couldn't find on those cheap sites. 
$27/4K
This price cannot be set, the system does not allow it. 
I filed a complaint to Pond5 regarding those $27/4K clips, but they aren't enforcing the minimum price rule.
Some top sellers set their prices at $25/HD and $27/4k.
https://www.pond5.com/search?kw=&media=footage&pricerange=|29&resolutions=4K&artist=fizkes
https://www.pond5.com/search?kw=&media=footage&pricerange=|29&resolutions=4K&artist=peopleimages
PeopleImages is Yuri Aucurs.
It is not the authors who set such prices. This pond5 shows different prices for buyers from other countries. For each region, the site itself determines the minimum selling price.
You can set the price to $50, but this price will only apply to certain regions. For other regions the price will be lower, and this is out of your control.
I'm in the USA. And I see $25/HD and $27/4K on those links. I've asked Pond5 to raise the price, but they responded as below.
"thank you for contacting our Support Team.
Please know, our artists have freedom to set up the prices they would like for HD formats. If they set a price of $10 for HD (for example), then 4K format will be $20. If they set a price of $25 for HD, then 4K format will be $50.
I hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Helena
Customer Care Gladiator & Risk Analyst"
Also... It's only if they have the prices higher on OTHER agencies, 'a la carte'. And I think Pond5 actually specifies if they charge "more" (when I read the agreement). So Pond5 would only 'lower' the prices if they had clips at a lower price on other agencies (a la carte, not subscription). I.e., say it was listed at $150 USD on Pond5, but then had it listed at $25 on another site. Then Pond5 would change it to $25 on the pond5 site.
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« on: April 04, 2024, 02:37 »
Portfolio size does not necessarily seem to matter... 30k/40k files does not necessarily 'guarantee' one a top spot, especially if say it is 30k pictures of bananas  One thing I've noticed is it seems some very (relatively speaking) "small" portfolios for whatever reason - have a few 'best sellers' that take off like wildfire... Lol obviously if I knew what the 'magic formula' was- I just focus on producing those bestsellers And then I suppose there are some that are difficult to recreate... yes, "ai" (its not real "ai", its basically copying and blending) - is getting better at stealing content & rehashing/blending it... but - definitely not "perfect"... There was one video (I think someone posted here, or maybe I saw it while looking at other things) - where I guess a woman was saying she made $8k from a single image... She shared it - and it was a very good picture of a baby under a white blanket... just happened to have the right expression, right lighting, etc and resonated with a lot of people... Now the "ai" could try and steal that - but it wouldn't be the same... And then also - I think in some ways images sell in "different" ways... I.e., if people see that baby image, they want "that" image for their campaigns, etc... so that probably also helps propel some sales too...
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« on: April 03, 2024, 11:33 »
Top 100 weekly, top 100 lifetime, less than 10k.
Less than 10k/day? Hmm wow!
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« on: April 03, 2024, 09:01 »
I learned early on that if anyone is serious about making a career from this business, they should follow one simple rule. Do not divulge or give away details of what works for you including images that sell well. You have to treat it as a business and businesses do not provide, "Secrets of their success" to help their competitors take money from them. It sounds harsh but ultimately it will serve you well. Sorry if this sounds nasty but it's hard enough in this line of work without shooting yourself in the foot.
That said, I do enjoy teaching so when I retire, I would like to teach one or two people about how I did things. Not so much for money etc, just because I like the idea of passing something on.
Well... you could be the first! You mean, you aren't one of those guys selling a "How I make five BILLION dollars a day on autopilot in my underwear, while only working 30 seconds sipping a cappucino - and 29 of those seconds are getting caffeinated - and these secrets can be YOURS - for only $29.95!!!" type of people??? Mmm. I do agree - so was in generic terms if you had certain tips, but if not - that is okay too. So... next question. When do you retire? 
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« on: April 02, 2024, 22:10 »
Not a million miles away. 20k images and sales are distributed across my port not just a handful of top sellers. Ive been doing this type of work since 2010 probably 2013/14 with Adobe / Fotolia. No AI in port.
Pretty good! Tips/strategies/recommendations on how to create a better selling/balanced portfolio?
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« on: March 26, 2024, 07:53 »
Part of the reason it seems to be "encouraged" - is it appears to be part of the blackrock/vanguard "strategy" to get people to "demand" a "digitalID". (I.e., id2020.org).
If they "let" people steal (usually east indians/different culture, considered "good business" if you can steal someone's stuff and get away with it) - then people "demand" to be "protected", and "voila", "digitalID" (and the digital ID is actually really really bad, because it is a control mechanism designed to take away people's income if they "disagree" or say something against a "govt" entity, i.e., what happened last 4 years).
That's the 'bigger picture' view.
And I also do agree since the agencies seem to just 'keep the income' if it is reported - it is a 'bonus' for them.
So in terms of what should be done...
a) Keep getting those accounts that steal shut down.
b) Get pressure on the agencies to give the income to those whom it was taken away from.
I'd say what this guy is doing is very good, making a public database of stolen accounts.
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« on: March 23, 2024, 09:23 »
I am trying!! But I rarely upload more than 20 files a day. Maybe it will get better with midjourney, we will see.
Also started again with regular photos/videos.
I must diversify and also send content to other agencies. You never know what happens, perhaps ai will die next year if so many people are pushing content in.
Especially editorial should keep its value or might even go up in value.
Firefly is better in my opinion,Midjourney is better for some things,but the way it works with Discord is too annoying,not only do you have to use stealth mode,but then you would have to operate in a private server,with which you only have the Midjourney BOT,and you have to adjust the settings so that no one can access your server,and then all this is not enough,you also have to unpublish the images in the Midjourney feed,not just in Discord.
so while you do all this your images will still be seen by other users in the Midjourney feed not in the Discord feed.
before I started operating in this way,I discovered that someone was copying all my prompts,in Discord there are people who do just this,they follow the feeds and copy and paste the prompts...very annoying!
Could you please clarify? As far as I know - all images are stealth... what "midjourney" feed are you referring to? Thanks!
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« on: March 23, 2024, 08:18 »
P5 sales for some reason dropped like a stone several months ago. "Slight" improvement over the massive drop, but not yet where they should be historically.
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« on: March 23, 2024, 08:16 »
pos 2940
probably not bad for a 4200 file port, but I was hoping for much better spring sales.
need many more files. now upped my midjourney contract to 60 dollars to enable stealth mode. and hopefully that will push me to do more with midjourney to get better at using it. i still don't feel really comfortable but it does make much better people than stable.
also trying to do more with firefly.
now have prompting costs around 100 dollars a month. but longterm it should be worth it.
Just triple your content and you'll get near 1,000th. Not bad for 4,000 images.
Not really. Tripled/quadrupled/etc content does not necessarily correlate with increased sales. I.e., if you had 5,000 pictures of bananas, and went to 15,000 pictures of bananas, you probably wouldn't see an increase in sales, of course, unless, people went bananas for bananas...
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« on: March 22, 2024, 16:56 »
Finally I cracked above 1,000th because of yesterday's hot sales. Also it's already the BWE for photo downloads this week. Nice!!
Good job! How many times has your best AI photo sold? And are you seeing the majority of new sales from AI, or your previous/real life photography photos?
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« on: March 22, 2024, 07:03 »
Thanks! Took a look @ one of the vids, interesting.
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« on: March 21, 2024, 12:41 »
Simple (says it on the Adobe website as well).
If it looks like a camera could have taken a picture, then it's a photo.
If it looks handdrawn, and/or an unnature photo composite, then it is an illustration.
If you try uploading photos as illustrations, they will most likely be auto rejected.
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« on: March 19, 2024, 07:28 »
Just like a lot of the stuff, I think it's hit or miss. "Sometimes" you get lucky, and sell a few hundred or more, or "sometimes" you don't.
I have a small set of .png files, (I think maybe 50 or so), and in total (out of the entire set) have maybe sold 5 or 6 so far...
So... lol, if you sell a lot - sure, it's worth it. If you don't, it's not...
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« on: March 17, 2024, 17:07 »
From iStock? About $0, but I don't have an account there, so that could be it 
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« on: March 17, 2024, 10:18 »
The other thing is - I actually do have very expensive high end systems - and if you do a lot of 4K video processing - you need to replace the thermal coolant in your system from time to time, which "can" be relatively expensive depending on the system you have.
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« on: March 17, 2024, 09:31 »
Pond5 you can sell at 4k prices
This probably only applies to exclusive authors. On Pond5 they buy 4k videos very often at very low prices. There are also subscriptions and discounts for buyers from different countries. Prices are lower for poor countries.
As for 4K processing, the technology is the same as for HD.
Re: 4k processing - I'm talking about things like post processing, artifact removal/etc... It's much more "expensive" to do that on your computer, than simply working with HD footage, in both terms of CPU resources, & time involved... processing HD videos is a LOT faster... But... I guess not really any point in uploading new video footage there anyways... Before - (i.e., 2-3 years ago) - you could get $70 for a clip... for HD/4k... Now... (as a bare minimum it seems) it's about $3, and 'maybe' a little higher if separate/individual packs were purchased... Revenue from clip sales has not gone up 20x to compensate for the difference...
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« on: March 17, 2024, 09:11 »
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« on: March 17, 2024, 08:51 »
I know people mentioned the price change @ adobe for 4k video becoming "subscriptions" - adobe making the assets cheap... Didn't realize they were making the 4k assets "exactly" the same price as the HD assets, thus significantly devaluing contributors works... https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/01/24/adobe-stock-now-offers-4kvideo-hd-prices-every-subscriptionI guess from now on, will only upload HD video to adobe, because no point in giving them the 4K version... Wow... Bonus I guess is it will save me on bandwidth, plus can downsize vids too...
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« on: March 14, 2024, 09:17 »
I disagree with the personal service aspect, when you consider the massive revenue they generate. Of COURSE they can offer it, but they may choose not to because "investors" want more $$$ in their pockets.
You really want Adobe to hire 2000 people just to deal with all the complaints "why was my file declined"??
It will be by far the most abused system ever.
I'd rather they put that money into the sales team.
You can post your problems in the community chat and get quick and qualified feedback. And you can write to Mat if you believe it is very serious.
Adobe is a lo more responsive than other places.
I don't get why people expect the luxury treatment on a mass platform.
Sign up with a small exclusive agency and you will get all the direct communication you ever wanted.
There are always choices.
Didn't say you 'had' to - although that might be a good idea. Just saying it was possible, and they chose not to. Big difference. However - it would be more helpful to (experienced) photographers/producers/etc if it said something like "too much pixelation" (and it actually WAS pixelation, not just randomly picking something out of laziness) - as opposed to "quality issues".
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