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Messages - PokemonMaster
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« on: March 20, 2024, 21:43 »
Adobe don't accept vector zips and any JPG added to vectors anymore. It's a problem, because:
1. JPG is and always was a way to attach metadata to EPS. You don't even have to store it, just let us transfer the title and keywords!
2. Adobe makes BAD previews sometimes. It fails to process complex transparencies for example. Especially when I reduce the artboard size to reduce the EPS weight
Mat, is there a chance to reverse it or solve this problems?
Adobe no longer accepts vector zip files and JPG files added to vectors. This is a problem because:
1. JPG has always been the way to attach metadata to EPS. You don't even have to store it, just let us transfer the title and keywords!
2. Adobe sometimes makes bad previews. For example, it cannot process complex transparencies. Especially when I downsize the artboard to reduce the weight of the EPS
Matt, is there any chance of reversing or solving this problem?
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« on: March 07, 2024, 04:08 »
Yes.
Violation details
Hands with Gay Pride Wristbands (Raster) I had, let's say, a very stylized LGBT flag taken down. You wouldn't even identify it as LGBT if it wasn't mentioned in the tags. Is it war? I could guess it might be a trademark take down, but they said it's an inappropriate content.
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« on: February 12, 2024, 22:31 »
I would get a friend to sign up, download 1-3 of your assets, and maybe of several other people (use search terms you know you show up for, as opposed to directly accessing the portfolio). Test it - and see if you get credit.
Post results here. Contributor auditing is a good idea.
Just be careful with it. It may be treated as an agreement with a buyer, which is against the ToS
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« on: February 12, 2024, 22:25 »
At least please keep us updated if the sales maybe show up later. Perhaps there is a (new?) delay in reporting the sales.
I find it difficult to believe this is indeed a widespread problem because many designers and producers know each other and buy from the agency while talking to the producer.
But if true it would be horrible indeed.
Three months passed. On-demand package from one customer. How much "later" can it be? They should pay it out at the same month as the package was spent! It's a microstock industry. I think we don't know the people on the other side much. A lot of people work here just to avoid customer contacts  Because there's Upwork for those who don't. But as I said, I heard about this before. This is just the clearest case with numbers
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« on: February 12, 2024, 22:17 »
It's an interesting experiment, and I understand that the contributors want to stay anonymous, because buying your own images is against the TOS. But on the other hand, this leaves very little room for verification. Anyone can claim anything. Always be careful with 3rd party information like "heard it from a friend who has been told by a friend that another friend..." Information can get thickened or altered per hop :-) It's not much a friend of a friend thing. I know the guy on the forums for many years. And yes, it's about ToS. He is still not ready to pull out the portfolio from SS. But this is not the first time I have seen such accusations against the SS. It was always something like, I know the client and he told me about a purchase that I dont see, or someone would just say that some studio made a control purchase and it's failed, etc. Things I might have missed or not believed. But this time I have a clear numbers, clear data on what and when. That's why I bring it here.
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« on: February 11, 2024, 11:06 »
It's a third-party information, so probably I will not be able to provide further details. But it comes from a trusted contributor, experienced, with a pretty old portfolio.
At the end of October, we decided to make a control purchase on the Shutterstock, collaborated with colleagues and bought a package of 25 Standard one-time demands. Purchases were made of works that had never been sold, with the help of a real customer within a spread of 10 days.
Divided it like this: 5 purchases from my accounts, 11 purchases from colleagues accounts, 9 purchases randomly.
Of my five - 1 appeared on the first day, 1 - after a couple of days, and another one after 4 days
The result as of February 1 is the total number of sales for all interested parties - 7
So, 70% of the sales via one-time demands package are lost! What do you think about this?
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« on: October 12, 2023, 11:17 »
Do not submit vector images created with or by generative AI software. Now we have Vector Firefly. Are there any news? 
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« on: October 06, 2023, 08:13 »
@ Mat Hayward
https://stock.adobe.com/search?k=%22japan+web%22
28,968 files NOT identified by checking the box Created using generative AI tools.
And that is just a small amount of "vectors" created by AI which are accepted in a collection without being stated as a AI generated content.
I strongly think that accepting those files on a daily bases , as regular vector files, harms both contributors and buyers.
I don't see much AI here. Pretty solid styles and correct shapes. I maybe found 2 images on the whole page, which could be AI. OR it can be SVGs, produced by vector AI... Let me remind you that vector artists don't have the Created using generative AI tools checkbox. But we desperately need it.
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« on: October 01, 2023, 06:52 »
There are currently 873 video items tagged as genAI. That's been growing over the last month or so, but very, very slowly. 356 two months ago vs 791 in the middle of August.
They seem to be lots of animated illustrations - moving through an AI image like the Ken Burns effect. It's nowhere near 873, Jo Ann. Currently, contributors cannot label videos as AI. They can only mention it in the title or keywords. This number 873 you see is the AI-reviewer marking. Which it shouldn't have done in the first place.. The same situation as with AI vectors. Not all of them are AI videos and not all actual AI videos are labeled. On the other hand, you can search for AI Generated in all videos. And there are 10,006 results. Not all of them will actually be created by artificial intelligence, but this way you will find many more producers who just want to be honest about their content.
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« on: September 29, 2023, 13:05 »
Is there such a rule? Can you point to it in the FAQ or TOS?
I haven't heard anyone talk about this because AI video was almost non-existent two months ago and there is still very little of it.
https://www.synthetick.com/Screenshot-AI-video.png
From Discord
Good. Except there is no official policy and not everyone monitors Discord. Personally, I don't have time to check it. It's just not fair...
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« on: September 29, 2023, 06:10 »
There is a rule that AI videos are not allowed, but why do I keep seeing heaps of animated videos on Adobe Stock that consist of an AI-generated still image plus a few overlays from a phone app for animating stills, such as bokeh particles or butterflies? This portfolio is the sort of thing I am talking about:
https://stock.adobe.com/search/video?creator_id=207826067
If these kind of videos are going to be accepted then please at least label them as generative AI.
Is there such a rule? Can you point to it in the FAQ or TOS? I haven't heard anyone talk about this because AI video was almost non-existent two months ago and there is still very little of it.
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« on: September 24, 2023, 21:53 »
...Secondly, Mat doesn't give a clear answer as to whether this is allowed or not.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/adobe-stock-generti/msg591340/#msg591340
Seemed pretty clear to me - Adobe Stock doesn't accept it. It's true, it's not in their official dos & don'ts list on Adobe's web site.
It would be a very good idea to put something explicit into that page about all the asset types found on Adobe Stock with a check mark or an X depending on whether it's allowed or not.
As far as a bug making 120k human created vectors into AI work, that's possible, but would suggest it's really low priority given how long it's been going on.
Mat also said "Using the tool as inspiration is one thing, auto-trace or something similar I would avoid at all cost." To me it sounds like he's talking about auto-tracing and "something like that". Inspiration seems to be allowed. And at the moment he doesn't know that people can do a lot of things with AI. From redrawing AI-images where no one can tell what you did because you'll have the original wireframe to prove it, to AIs creating valid SVG vectors from prompts. And much more. For me it does not look like "something like auto-tracing"
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« on: September 24, 2023, 12:04 »
The total size on Monday was 119,358, but even then there were new images that hadn't been there the week before. I don't understand why they're continuing to approve new genAI vector images if they're also removing the previously approved ones and saying that the rules are you can't submit genAI vectors.
I would guess that the contributor doesn't see anything amiss as their genAI work keeps getting approved... First of all, not all of these vectors are really an AI. Far from it. It's not like "they keep approving." I talked to support and they didn't say it directly, but implied that it was some kind of glitch. I think the AI reviewer is doing this and they just don't know how to stop it Secondly, Mat doesn't give a clear answer as to whether this is allowed or not. The support engineer I spoke with referred me to the FAQ. But there are no prohibitions. There is a policy regarding raster AI. All other types are not mentioned. The FAQ was clearly written before vector AI became a thing. So, at the moment there is no policy in this regard
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« on: September 20, 2023, 11:16 »
Yes, you are correct.
-Mat
Matt, while you're here, can you clear up the situation with the Vector AI? Is Vector AI allowed or planned to be allowed? By vector AI, I mean a wide range of tools and techniques, from reworking AI raster images and getting inspiration from them, to using AI that creates a vector from scratch, without a raster in the middle. And I don't mean basic AI image autotracing, which will inevitably lead to spam.
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« on: September 15, 2023, 09:02 »
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« on: September 15, 2023, 09:02 »
If you use the filters "Vector" + "gernerative AI only", you get 120000 results. This is quite a lot considering that these files are not accepted.
I spoke to the support and they are probably going to fix it. Probably, by re-reviewing. Soon, I guess. At this day, I think, real Vector-AI will be punished. Because Adobe is not accepting Vector AI. While I don't see any clear answer of a line in ToS about it. Is there a way to question Mat directly? Because I really think it's time to start thinking of AI-vectors as a separate thing, like AI images. Look at Shutterstock, which claims zero tolerance for AI. Their database is full of it. And they will never know what is human-made now, they will never be able to roll it back.
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« on: September 13, 2023, 04:21 »
its free collection up-front payment, go to your contributor dashboard and check "Eligible for free collection". I never agree with this free collection
If you didn't agree, then this isn't it. And I know more people, who did not agree or was not offered, and they still get this payment. Also, I agreed and my images are still in review. I expect payment at the end of September
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« on: September 07, 2023, 03:47 »
If someone filters out AI images, I get penalized because then images of mine don't show up in the results.
This is an outrage! And misleading the buyer! More to say, I had an issue with iStock, which found that one of my vectors are marked as AI on Adobe. They blocked me and we had a conversation. I have a story behind, so probably everyone should not panic about it. However, there was a risky situation.
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« on: September 06, 2023, 10:07 »
I'm considering using AI-generated images as a reference for colors and composition, and then redrawing them using Adobe Illustrator with additional elements. Will upload it as Vector illustration. Do I still need to show that it is AI generated? Thanks
Someone asked Matt a the question "if the AI generated image is used as a sketch and heavily processed after, must we always write made with generative AI?" and the answer was yes.
Though, it's not like Adobe really has a way to know that you used an AI or even care, seeing as how many obvious AI images that are not labaled as AI are their database.....
Mat, We need a clear answer.
We do not accept generative AI vector images. I strongly advise against what you are suggesting. Using the tool as inspiration is one thing, auto-trace or something similar I would avoid at all cost.
Thanks for the question,
Mat Hayward
I am sorry Matt, but I have to ask one more time, because it looks like the situation is changed. I've SEEN approved vectors, marked as Generative AI. Not in the title/keywords, but marked by the rewiever. What is the current policy about it? Of course, I am not talking about an autotrace, which in my opinion is not a good way for any vector content. But there are a lot of ways currently. There's already a vector-only AI engines available for icons. I'd say, by the 2024 it will be something you can't stop, but can control.
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« on: August 06, 2023, 09:18 »
If I'd decide to upload my portfolio or a part of it to WS, with the limit of 200, I'd spend many years to do it. Probably, more than WS will be existing.
If I'd skip my portfolio and started fully with AI, 200 per month is nothing
Whatever I do, my WS portfolio will remain tiny for too long, I will not be able to gain any profit for a few years with this limit. And you want me to pay for it?
Absolutely useless model for the contributors.
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« on: June 06, 2023, 09:55 »
I strongly believe that it's an uploading glitch or glitch of the reviewing AI. Today I had a full batch of vectors rejected. Nothing is wrong with them, absolutely nothing. Some of them are a part of the series, so they were exported from the same source within the same operation and keyworded along with the similar files, which was perfectly accepted earlier.
It's a glitch, end of story. The question is why don't they pay attention to it? It started at the same time as the AI images storm, so I think it's a consequences of some kind of reviewing department overload
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« on: May 06, 2023, 11:23 »
Well the rise of AI could have investors worried. Adobe has other income, stock ist just a small part.
IMHO SS and Adobe have a huge advantage in the AI world with unclear copyright statuses. I don't believe that MJ and SD will be cancelled in any way, but SS have an enormous legal base for training. He will remain a big player in any case. Except if he p*ss off the contributors so much, that the base will go down. Which is still possible, I think. I mean, AI revolution will not destroy it (nor make it stronger). SS will keep it's position.
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« on: March 06, 2023, 09:26 »
The first hit on a google image search from the Shutterstock preview (of the thief's upload) is your iStock image! There is no excuse. I remember very well that during the Shutterstock boycott, they accepted a Pixar image into an absolute noob portfolio with non-linear quality (he just downloaded images here and there). Maybe I even still have a screenshot. I mean, they could at least do an initial review of 10 works properly
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« on: February 21, 2023, 11:50 »
Take a look at the Adobe Stock Contributor portal now. If you qualified for the bonus code, you should now see the blue redemption bar. Congratulations to everyone who qualified and THANK YOU for being such an important part of Adobe Stock Mat, what about the Russian contributors, who moved out? I don't see my code 
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« on: February 21, 2023, 10:57 »
Sorry, you mean your Adobe software were expired for 2 weeks already and you are currently waiting for the code, but unsure when it will arrive? Is that what you are trying to say? That's right. Also, I am not sure if I will actually get the code. But we discussed it on previous two pages and it is safe to skip
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