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Off Topic / Re: Will the Russia/Ukraine war affect sales?
« on: February 25, 2022, 14:43 »
I'm heading shortly to a protest at the Russian Embassy in Madrid to get some content. Wish me luck!

Without getting into politics, captured some cool shots and uploaded them to Rex Features (now Shutterstock Editorial) and Alamy Live News. Shot about 1 hour ago so time was of the essence for these breaking news type shots.

I've never actually sold an image on Alamy Live News (only later as a regular stock), so hoping it will be my first.
Just in case you didn't know, editorial online outlets pay 'normal' prices for Live News, i.e. their negotiated discount rate.
I sold one last week, my first LN sale, and it netted me 68c, sic, sixty-eight US cents.

However you can make much more than that with print Live News sales, so good luck.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: use two words in one keyword ?
« on: February 25, 2022, 10:06 »
I have now tested the whole thing with a few of my pictures in your sense and you're right - it does not matter. Thank you, I have learned something again.
It's not your fault, Ralf.
The system doesn't work in the way that Alamy says it works, and it hasn't since I joined c2009.

However, different algorithms can thow up vastly different results, and at least at the moment, the first page results look good. (but I just searched my usual Leonard Cohen and because of my recent mis-hit, Will Young.)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: use two words in one keyword ?
« on: February 25, 2022, 09:04 »
Sue, I am not a fan of long texts and I must have misunderstood.
As far as I know, Alamy is the only agency where you can see for which search terms images are seen. Thats the only reason, I mentioned Alamy. I find the function very instructive, because you can see how the buyers tick in the search. The choice of search terms by buyers does not always correspond to my logic as a contributor.
 
Back to the two words in one keyword question. As an example, if I list "Las Vegas" as a double word only in the keywords, my image will not show up when someone searches for "Vegas" only. With this knowledge it makes sense to list the terms individually in the keywords. Or do I have a knot in my head somewhere?  ;)

I had to write a long post to give examples to show that your sweeping generalisation isn't accurate re Alamy.

I don't know why you think it wouldn't show up*.
I occasionally have searches for Margaret or William (etc) (yes I know, weird search unless they were writing a book about famous Margarets) where I do not have Margaret or William as single keywords, only as Margaret Surname or William Surname.

Of course it may be, as in the examples I have given, that Alamy's search picked up Margaret or William from the caption. Because as I showed in my example of Will Young, the search can be based totally on the caption, not from keywords at all.

In these cases, you'd presumably normally have Las Vegas in the caption, so your file would still be found on a search. Because in the case that Las Vegas and hotel weren't sufficiently significant in the file for you to write in the caption, it's not likely that it would be what a buyer was looking for on a search for "Vegas Hotel"

*if the search was working as they claim it works, your file keyworded "Las Vegas" and "hotel" would still show up under those returned for "Vegas Hotel", even if Las Vegas and hotel weren't in the caption.

But as I said, with a belt and braces approach, you could correctly tag "Las Vegas", "Hotel" and "Vegas Hotel".

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General Stock Discussion / Re: use two words in one keyword ?
« on: February 25, 2022, 05:12 »
There is no single correct answer to your question.
As already mentioned as an example, it certainly makes sense to take "red lake" together.

But if we take Las Vegas, for example, the terms should be separated.
From my Alamy statistics, for example, I know that many buyers search only for "Vegas Strip" or "Vegas Hotel". If then took "Las Vegas" together, you're out of the search.
No, that's not how search works on Alamy.
Any word in the caption or keywords can be combined with any other to make a false search hit. It's one of Alamy's most annoying features - just look through your own searches.
So for example, say you have a photo of two people, correctly tagged "Joe Bloggs" and "Jane Doe"
These will turn up in searches for "Joe Doe", "Jane Bloggs", "Joe Jane" and "Jane Joe".

Depending on the particular algorithm at the time, these 'wrong' results may or may not rank higher than the phrases. So, for example, in some phases of the algorithm, if you search for "Jane Bloggs", you might get a lot of photos of Joe Bloggs and Jane Doe high up in the mixture above genuine photos of Jane Bloggs, which could be due to photographer sales ranking higher in that particular algorithm iteration.  In the real world, I check-search on "Leonard Cohen". At this particular moment, having just checked, the first page of that search is impressively 'clean', but in previous times, fewer than half of the first page results, sorted by 'Relevant' have been of the man himself.

For example, a few days back, I see via Customer Search, I had three 'hits' on a search for Will Young, a UK singer of whom I have no photos.
Two of them were live news photos for which the caption reads:
"Glasgow, Scotland, UK. Young people skating in George Square in central Glasgow where an ice-rink was opened on 24th November 2012 and will continue until 6th January 2012. ..."
The other was also LN, with the caption:
"Glasgow, Scotland, UK. 02nd August, 2018. Two young boys having their photos taken wearing 'Big Hands' at the Sir Chris Hoy Velodrome (Emirates Arena) in the Dalmarnock area of Glasgow before the first cycling events of the Glasgow 2018, a multi-sport event. Most of the sports will be hosted in Scotland, with the Velodrome hosting the Track Cycling events. "

Customer search shows that all of my three irrelevant pics were in the 'top' 800 searches, i.e. I can see that the customer looked through 800 pics. Searching Will Young on Alamy shows 68,667 hits. The first page is very relevant to the singer, but my totally irrelevant hits based on the caption indicate that it deteriorates pretty quickly.

So, as long as you had "Las Vegas" and "hotels" you'd still show up in a search for "Vegas Hotels", how high or low depending on the particular algorithm at the time and possibly your own personal ranking. You could also hedge your bets by tagging "Las Vegas" "hotels", and "Vegas Hotels".

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Januray 2022 royalties are posted
« on: February 23, 2022, 19:08 »
I didn't know that istock also had a payout treshold. Do you set it yourself or is it always $100?
It's been $100, set by them for a long time.
I used to make that almost every single week for years; now there are some months I don't reach it.  :'(

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Januray 2022 royalties are posted
« on: February 23, 2022, 14:43 »
I seem to have got 2c more than I was expecting, but Getty figures tend not to match, IME.

However, the posts earlier in this thread about big discrepancies and getting payment while under threshhold are surprising.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Januray 2022 royalties are posted
« on: February 23, 2022, 13:47 »
Anyone else received unusal payment from getty? I've earned 98$ in January, so 2$ short of payment threshold, and I just recived message from paypal that getty send me 82$?? And 82$ is unusal amount two, I pay 5% taxes so even I getty would send me those 98$ I should get about 93$.

I didn't get any remittance (whatever that is) email, as I usually do?
I got the remittance email half an hour ago.

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy Demographic Survey
« on: February 22, 2022, 11:16 »
The world has gone mad. Or I'm just an unwoke dinosaur.

I got tickets for a series of online concerts.
Afterwards, I got a customer satisfaction questionnaire. Not one was about the quality of the concerts.
All were about my ethnicity, gender choices, sexuality or disabilities and whether any of these had led to difficulties with the booking process or with accessing the content.

I'm trying very hard to understand this, but the only difficulties if would cause would be if any of these directly led to me having a poorly paid job, or none, therefore indirectly I couldn't afford a ticket or a device to view the shows on, or was physically or mentally unable to use a device - therefore I wouldn't have been a customer so wouldn't have got a customer satisfaction questionnaire.

If anyone can see where I'm going wrong on this, please feel free to try to explain. Because it seems to me that like with the Alamy questionnaire, it's just a ticky box exercise.

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I canceled exclusivity at istock about nine years ago. After canceling exclusivity my images still sold for exclusive prices but i only got non exclusive 16%. Istock wasn't able to fix this. So i canceled my account and uploaded from zero.
Weren't you getting 16% of the 3 credit price?
And now you're getting 16% of the 1 credit price?
Looks like you were shooting yourself in the foot, UNLESS you get more than 3x sales when the prices are lower, which is perfectly possible; though like many things hard to prove, as your reuploads would get new best match positioning.
Income at istock was going down. At macrostock I could only sell RM because of istock exclusivity.
So it was an easy decision.
I wasn't questioning your decision to become indie.
I was questioning your decision to voluntarily reduce your income by 2/3rds, and waste some time and effort in so doing.

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I canceled exclusivity at istock about nine years ago. After canceling exclusivity my images still sold for exclusive prices but i only got non exclusive 16%. Istock wasn't able to fix this. So i canceled my account and uploaded from zero.
Weren't you getting 16% of the 3 credit price?
And now you're getting 16% of the 1 credit price?
Looks like you were shooting yourself in the foot, UNLESS you get more than 3x sales when the prices are lower, which is perfectly possible; though like many things hard to prove cause and effect, as your reuploads would get different best match positioning.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Januray 2022 royalties are posted
« on: February 19, 2022, 18:30 »
Are these files directly uploaded to Getty?
Otherwise, if uploaded to iStock, could you tell me where you see the license details, please? Ithought iS sales were just 'RF', no more info given.

No, not directly to Getty, but to iStock using DeepMeta. That's also the tool I use to track my earnings. In the "Sales" tab, click on a sold item and additional information can be found on the right. The "Usage" field is mostly empty or labeled as basic, but sometimes additional information regarding licenses is given.

Oh, thanks for the info!

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His photos under both Yuri Arcurs and People Images are still showing as exclusive on iStock:
https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/shot-of-an-attractive-young-woman-sitting-alone-on-a-mat-and-meditating-on-the-beach-gm1317735408-405075966
https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/printing-at-high-speed-gm519913201-49993468

Maybe (again I have no idea) he's negotiated an exclusive-image deal with Getty?

The crown is not on his name, not on people images and not on Yuri Arcurs. In few time, his images disappear from Getty

However, if you click on either of these links, and follow the link next to Signature, it still says "On-trend images that are exclusive to iStock, for 3 credits."
Which presumably, as Jo Ann said above, is misleading.
I have read that when people become indie, their files stay at 3 credits, apparently because iStock's techies can't find a way of changing it. But there shouldn't be a message saying the images are exclusive to iStock if they're not. (iStock's problem, not Yuri's).

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Januray 2022 royalties are posted
« on: February 19, 2022, 05:57 »

One thing I never can't get a hold of are the licenses.

Publishing: Print & Online. Hungary. Commercial - limited rights for RF Content;Editorial - website(s);Editorial - social media platforms;Editorial - Re-Display Rights: In-Context Promotional Use;Editorial - print publication(s) (cover use for RF/NSEA only);Editorial - mobile/tablet apps;Editorial - digital distribution platforms. Editorial rights granted for print and web publications. Print & Digital. Unlimited number of uses per download (In perpetuity). In perpetuity, within the context of the original use
-->> This one earned me a whopping 6 cents!

While this one...
Broadcasting & Video on Demand. World. Editorial - website(s);Editorial - social media platforms;Editorial - Re-Display Rights: In-Context Syndication;Editorial - Re-Display Rights: In-Context Promotional Use;Editorial - mobile/tablet apps;Editorial - Film/TV programs;Editorial - digital distribution platforms. Digital. One use per download. In perpetuity, within the context of the original use.
-->> brought in 9 bucks.

And this:
Creative Agency. World. Commercial - limited rights for RF Content. Unlimited. Digital. Unlimited number of uses per download (In perpetuity). In perpetuity, within the context of the original use.
-->> Earned me 16 cents.


Are these files directly uploaded to Getty?
Otherwise, if uploaded to iStock, could you tell me where you see the license details, please? Ithought iS sales were just 'RF', no more info given.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: NFTs and License Terms
« on: February 19, 2022, 05:01 »
I really wish that Trump and Boris would wander off into the sunset hand in hand.

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Possibly iS didn't update yet? If you go to his portfolio on iS then check the "exclusive" box, it says there are no images
Wow, so it does.
So 'even' Yuri (apparently) can't negotate an image-exclusive deal!  ::) Or maybe he didn't want to.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: NFTs and License Terms
« on: February 18, 2022, 13:49 »
Meanwhile, the third Mrs Trump is releasing her latest batch of NFTs.
"Trump will be releasing a new collection on February 21, Presidents' Day. She is promoting the "POTUS NFT Collection" as a trove of 10,000 separate NFTs, each priced at $50.

According to a statement released by Trump on Thursday, the collection will highlight "iconic moments" from the Trump administration's four-year run. It will feature 10 digital artworks capturing events ranging from Christmas at the White House to the Trumps' visit to Mount Rushmore in 2020.

The works will not be viewable by buyers until a purchase is made using the Solana cryptocurrency.
"Collectors will enjoy an element of surprise, as the artwork of each NFT is revealed only after purchase," the statement read. "Of course, collectors can make multiple purchases to own the entire POTUS Trump Collection."


https://www.businessinsider.com/melania-trump-launch-nft-collection-iconic-moments-from-trump-presidency-2022-2?r=US&IR=T

I have many thoughts on this, but I'm best to keep them to myself.



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His photos under both Yuri Arcurs and People Images are still showing as exclusive on iStock:
https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/shot-of-an-attractive-young-woman-sitting-alone-on-a-mat-and-meditating-on-the-beach-gm1317735408-405075966
https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/printing-at-high-speed-gm519913201-49993468

Maybe (again I have no idea) he's negotiated an exclusive-image deal with Getty?

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He may well1 have come to a special arrangement with Getty, e.g. by threatening to pull his content.
He was already selling RF via his own website, which lesser mortals aren't allowed to do.
https://peopleimages.com
Although he seems to have proudly embraced the "race to the bottom".
"6 Things we are proud of!
1. Best Prices Anywhere
When buying images, you want to make sure you do so at a site that charges industry level prices, with no overpricing.
We know we've got the best prices, highest sign-up bonuses and the greatest bulk discounts, but of course we'd say that. So as a guarantee, if you find our images cheaper anywhere else, we will immediately match the price."


1I have no idea.

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: February 18, 2022, 07:22 »
Meanwhile, having risked my camera in stormy conditions, I sold a Live News photo and netted 68c.

I suspect that I can now also take nice storm pictures at the beach (a few kilometers away). But I'll stay home anyway.
In England it is now code red. In two hours it will really start storming here (also code red).

All the best for the storm Thijs.
We are in a code red area near the south coast.
At it's peak now, hopefully..
I won't be leaving the house to take photos.
Too dangerous.
Not as bad as 1987's Great Storm (so far)
🤞

Good to hear that it's not that bad Debbie.  :)
We are somewhat used to the coast. But this is going to be one of the heavier storms. And that in the winter. More like a spring or autumn storm.

I think I spoke too soon.  We live in a 1930's house with the original roof.  Some of the huge tile thingies (not sure what they are called) that hold the roof tiles in place have blown off and smashed through our neighbour's car.

Bit concerned now about the security of the roof, especially as we have very tall old chimneys.

Peaking at gusts of 122 miles an hour here.

Really sorry to hear that.
Keep yourself safe, at least.

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: February 18, 2022, 05:36 »
Meanwhile, having risked my camera in stormy conditions, I sold a Live News photo and netted 68c.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Jan 2022 royalties are up
« on: February 16, 2022, 09:26 »
I was checking on DM and uploads and by accident found the updates Dec 2021 royalties are posted.

I can afford a 24 pack of diet Coke on this months Gross earnings. (and they are gross)

RPD .66

Thanks for the info, but I think you meant Jan 22.
Wasn't expecting report until Friday.
My Jan total is c30% better than last year (which was very poor) , and 'just' below Jan '20.
rpd (exclusive) $1.85.

Yes, January Licenses 2022. I'll go fix that.

I can see the downloads for January, Pete. But where can you see your income for January 2022?

I'm not Pete, but I see mine by clicking on Royalties.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Dec 2021 royalties are up
« on: February 16, 2022, 08:11 »
I was checking on DM and uploads and by accident found the updates Dec 2021 royalties are posted.

I can afford a 24 pack of diet Coke on this months Gross earnings. (and they are gross)

RPD .66

Thanks for the info, but I think you meant Jan 22.
Wasn't expecting report until Friday.
My Jan total is c30% better than last year (which was very poor) , and 'just' below Jan '20.
rpd (exclusive) $1.85.


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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: February 15, 2022, 16:16 »
I have asked Alamy to delete my account. According to their own statement, they need 45 days for this. I don't know why it takes so long.
It's in the contract/agreement we signed up to.
And apparently your pics can be sold for quite some time after that (but you'll still get paid, FWIW).

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