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If I remember correctly I started with Fotolia/Adobe sometime around 2013/14. I used to upload a lot to begin with but I've learned volume isn't necessarily king. Quality, quality, quality is my mantra now so I try to avoid volume for the sake of it. I'd rather submit 10 good images a month than 100 average. I love what I do so I feel very lucky in that sense!
Are you not afraid to be featured on top sellers list by uploading only best images that will sell? After copycats, I started to delude my portfolio.

Not really, although I prefer to sail under the radar and never share or preview anything I do. I try to stay dark.

@halffull - at a rank of 79 (or even hovering around 100), what approximate # of downloads is that per week?

Just taken a look at that time. Daily figures then ranged between 220 - 320 a day... about 1700 for that week. If I achieve that again I'd be very happy. I'm a realist though, 100's is a good high!

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Highest position = 97 (last 12 months), annual low of around 900 and currently 337 but improving still. A steady avg of around 400. Lifetime Rank 494. 20k images sole trader.

Nice!!! Congrats for this!  :)

Highest position = 97 (last 12 months), annual low of around 900 and currently 337 but improving still. A steady avg of around 400. Lifetime Rank 494. 20k images sole trader.

You must have a great portfolio!!

Highest position = 97 (last 12 months), annual low of around 900 and currently 337 but improving still. A steady avg of around 400. Lifetime Rank 494. 20k images sole trader.

Congratulations! Especially as a solo artist this is a fantastic result.

Highest position = 97 (last 12 months), annual low of around 900 and currently 337 but improving still. A steady avg of around 400. Lifetime Rank 494. 20k images sole trader.
Very impressive!
How many years did it take to upload 20k of images? Traditional photos or AI?

Thanks everyone... appreciated.

I just checked my ranking spread sheet and it was actually 79 not 97 as my best performing week. Right numbers just wrong order.

If I remember correctly I started with Fotolia/Adobe sometime around 2013/14. I used to upload a lot to begin with but I've learned volume isn't necessarily king. Quality, quality, quality is my mantra now so I try to avoid volume for the sake of it. I'd rather submit 10 good images a month than 100 average. I love what I do so I feel very lucky in that sense!

No AI. For the work I do I just see too many mistakes that I'd have to correct. Not as much control/precision. By the time I've found the right AI image and corrected it, I could have taken / drawn it myself 😂. But, each to their own. It's what works for you that counts.

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Highest position = 97 (last 12 months), annual low of around 900 and currently 337 but improving still. A steady avg of around 400. Lifetime Rank 494. 20k images sole trader.

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Adobe Stock / Re: 2023 Adobe Stock contributor bonus plan details
« on: February 19, 2024, 12:56 »
Just redeemed the All Apps code, it extended my current plan with a year, no overlapping here. Thanks a lot Mat and Adobe!


Same here, all apps 100GB of storage and the code added a year to the existing plan.

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Adobe Stock / Re: 2023 Adobe Stock contributor bonus plan details
« on: February 19, 2024, 04:18 »
Hi everyone,

I'm pleased to inform you that we have updated the learn and support page with details on the 2023 bonus program for Adobe Stock contributors. You can view the information here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html

Be sure to check your Adobe Stock contributor portal this coming week to learn if you qualified!

Stay creative,

Mat Hayward

Thanks Mat / Adobe... claimed and good to go until Sept 2025 👍🏻🙏🏻

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DepositPhotos / Re: Exciting News from Deposit Photos
« on: February 06, 2024, 11:46 »
Just coming back with the response from DP when I asked what had changed. See below, just XXX out the real names. It seems the only change is the payout!

"HI xxxxxxx,
 
The change is that from now the minimum payout is $25 and not $50, other terms did not change.
 
Feel free to contact us 24/7 if you have any further questions or require any assistance.
 
Kind regards,

xxxxxxxxx"


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DepositPhotos / Re: Exciting News from Deposit Photos
« on: February 05, 2024, 11:31 »
But they do not specify what the changes are, you have to go through the whole thing and compare it to the old one to try and find the changes and hope that is right.

I've emailed to ask for a summary detailing the changes as even with the old document it would be very easy to miss any changes made. I'm not entirely sure how legal those changes would be... certainly setup in such a way as to bury them and make it hard for the user to see what they're up to. Not very transparent.

Would you please let us know the answer? Thanks in advance! (Even though I've got the feeling that they won't answer anyway)

Will do... if I get one that is!

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DepositPhotos / Re: Exciting News from Deposit Photos
« on: February 05, 2024, 09:36 »
But they do not specify what the changes are, you have to go through the whole thing and compare it to the old one to try and find the changes and hope that is right.

I've emailed to ask for a summary detailing the changes as even with the old document it would be very easy to miss any changes made. I'm not entirely sure how legal those changes would be... certainly setup in such a way as to bury them and make it hard for the user to see what they're up to. Not very transparent.

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Just noticed mine have been as well. Adobe seem to have a bit of an issue here.

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I wouldn't say completely anecdotal as the company I work for, a $3B company, uses AI almost exclusively....and it's a huge marketing driven company. I was able to pluck the robin image she did for me.  It looks pretty good. Here is the link to the full Rez image she built.  I mean honestly, nobody can predict what pivots AI will take, but since I'm seeing current state with a pretty big graphically driven company, it's at least an indicator of what's happening, or beginning to happen.  I do think much of your post has merit.  I'm just seeing someone who is very good with keywords and A.I. create many incredible interior designs, exterior home scapes , etc.  I can't believe she'd be the only one doing this as a means to support an annual marketing budget of $20 million.  https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zylpx3ikxdh3gonmb2p14/MicrosoftTeams-image.png?rlkey=l4mrpfv626ewwsy5sg4t6a1br&dl=0

The picture is aesthetically pleasing and most people will recognize it as a robin, but a lot of the details are wrong.

Here is how it should look like:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Erithacus_rubecula_with_cocked_head.jpg

Note for example that the beak of the real thing is blackish or dark grey, rather than partly orange. On the other hand, the lower part of the forehead should be orange. And so on.

So it comes down to the question whether customers are fine with using images of birds that have some resemblance to the real thing, but are really fantasy products.

I could be wrong but the wing of that AI Robin is closer to that of a female Chaffinch. It certainly doesn't look like an any robin I've seen in the garden. The feathers below the red breast are also too white.

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Adobe Stock / Re: review times??
« on: September 21, 2023, 12:00 »
The latest non AI png files I had approved had been waiting about a month and a half. For a company the size of Adobe, it's a little embarrassing that they can't manage this. They have the money and resources to correct it.

It must be getting to the point when they realise the only way to resolve it is to pause the intake of AI content until they can bring in new staff to get the numbers back down to a sensible level.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Big drop in sales
« on: September 15, 2023, 10:57 »
Have you also had a big drop in sales?
Me especially with images created with AI

No, I have zero AI and sales are up but following normal seasonal patterns so far.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Contributor Dashboard down?
« on: September 15, 2023, 03:53 »
Same here

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Adobe Stock / Re: Account blocked - I need help please
« on: September 14, 2023, 03:28 »
3 week block could be several thousand dollars. But in any case it is nearly one month income missing.

If there really was NOTHING wrong with the port, then Adobe should seriously consider compensation. Because then it must have been their algos that made a very serious mistake.

This is the most important buying season. You don't just lose the sales you also lose on the lightboxing of your files for future sales.

I am amazed that Adobe is not understanding that stock is not a hobby for the producers but actually their main income. At least for the old timers who have been uploading for years.

There must be a different way to handle this problem.

example:

- Notify the contributor that their account is under investigation. Give them a case number and communication place to ask questions.

- Give them a time frame estimate when a human will look into the problem.

- Until them let them access their account, their money and also give them the ability to delete files themselves.

- After the process is complete give them a real report what happened, what the problem was and how it was resolved.


Well said and a really good idea. It deserves a thread of its own to be honest with maybe input from Mat. As he's the face of contributor support and has always been really helpful with problems in the past, it maybe something he can feedback on.

At the same time, while the system needs to protect contributors from errors etc, it does need to punish serial offenders so I understand and appreciate Adobes efforts, it just feels like it is a little out of balance at the moment but with a few tweaks it may offer the right balance of protection for both the agency and contributor while not providing a free ticket to deliberate rule breakers.

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Software - General / Re: Adobe Storage Plan
« on: September 14, 2023, 02:23 »
Mat maybe able to cast further light on this but, just to say that I'm actually paying for the extra storage (1tb) for use with Lightroom (mobile version). I received the full package which includes 100gb I believe. I was able to pay for it via the Adobe Account page that details apps available etc.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Account blocked - another story
« on: September 14, 2023, 02:11 »
I have to admit, it's stories like this that stop me from submitting any AI imagery. Especially when it's an act first ask questions later approach. I do feel they should reach out first giving the contributor X number of days to respond. It could be something that is resolved very quickly and prevent someone's income being taken away which maybe relied on for paying for food and bills etc. This is my only income so the thought of it being cut off for any period of time is worrying to say the least.

I hope it's sorted out very quickly!!!

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Mat, if you see this... first off I'd just like to say thanks, much appreciated.

Couple of questions though, one screen grab states future payouts would be based on new approved images and downloads. Is that downloads from the new files or, your total downloads from your overall port for whatever time period decided?  The Adobe email has confirmed it's downloads from new files.

Secondly, will AI generated images be included or excluded from the AI bonus. I guess if they're included in Firefly learning there maybe a risk that AI is trying to learn from itself including the mistakes... that could lead to poor results in the long run. I guess there will also be a risk it would accelerate the numbers of AI images being submitted... we already have over a month wait for images to be approved so there is potential for this to deteriorate further. Cheers

Thanks for the question.

All content that is on Adobe Stock goes through the same strict submission guidelines and moderation process, which includes Generative AI images. This content enhances our dataset training model, and we decided to include this content for the commercially released version of Firefly. Contributors of generative AI were included in the bonus payment.

-Mat Hayward

Thanks for the response Mat. I guess you'll have seen quite a few pages of the AI errors that have been accepted. Is it the intention of Adobe to really ramp up the reviewing process. It seems that the reviewers are probably under a lot of pressure at the moment (given the long delays for image approvals) which may result in rushed decisions.

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Mat, if you see this... first off I'd just like to say thanks, much appreciated.

Couple of questions though, one screen grab states future payouts would be based on new approved images and downloads. Is that downloads from the new files or, your total downloads from your overall port for whatever time period decided?  The Adobe email has confirmed it's downloads from new files.

Secondly, will AI generated images be included or excluded from the AI bonus. I guess if they're included in Firefly learning there maybe a risk that AI is trying to learn from itself including the mistakes... that could lead to poor results in the long run. I guess there will also be a risk it would accelerate the numbers of AI images being submitted... we already have over a month wait for images to be approved so there is potential for this to deteriorate further. Cheers

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Received a very large payment today possibly the AI learning payment?!?

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Adobe Stock / Re: review times??
« on: September 12, 2023, 08:56 »
Over a month here as well. It seems things are getting worse rather than better. Seems out of control now.

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This industry will change without a doubt, for better or worse. Everything changes over time, whether it's new technology, new social norms, new fashion trends. The big question is: are you able to adapt? I'd like to think we creatives are able to use our artistic skills to adapt and make the changes in the industry work for us rather than against us. Life, uh, finds a way.

The work I produce today is very different to what I started out doing.

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I have plenty above 1 dollar, however being in the UK and Adobe changing the currency i now receive at least a 25% loss overall due to Adobe.
i still have a difficult time understanding this. when you get a sale is it in $ or euro? if sale lists $, where's the loss?  if sale shows euro, how does it compare to similar sale in $ for non-EU?  and euro over dollar is only 10%

Im in UK and Adobe used to show the earnings in pound sterling and payments in pound sterling.....1 sales are now shown as 1 dollar sales so after conversion I receive about 75p as opposed to 1......about a 25% loss....

And it is a bit dodgy regarding Adobes work practice as Adobe charge customers in the UK in Pound Sterling but pay their contributors in dollars so Adobe must keep 25% of UK contributors money now......

You seem to be under the impression you were getting 1 for each $1.... you weren't. They converted $1 to 0.75 automatically no matter what the exchange rate was. In otherwords, we were losing money a lot of the time. Now, we're actually earning more as the current conversion rates are above 0.75.

Using Payoneer I get the current exchange rate less 0.015. So, if the Exchange rate is 0.80 for every $, I would receive an exchange rate of 0.785. As it stands, I could make the same $'s from Adobe this year but actual have more money in my pocket. Of course, there will be times when the exchange rate drops below 0.75 (the old fixed rate) but that is the way of the world and business... but, I'd rather that than the fixed rate which is rarely ever correct.

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And what happened to the horse and buggy operators in the early 1900s when cars started to develop?  This is the same thing, only a century later.

People will have to pivot and adapt in their own way.

While I agree to an extent, 1x Horse buggy driver = 1x car driver (to an extent). AI = potentially millions of lost jobs with minimal new opportunities to replace it. I mean, how many AI programers will be needed. When mechanical equipment replaced the horse and cart on the farm, there were a lot of new jobs coming up to replace the massive job losses in the countryside. I really don't see a massive increase in new jobs to replace all the jobs lost.

I think a lot of political figures etc are starting to realise the implications now. The same as they cheered home working because of its environmental benefits only to backpedal when they realised how many city centre jobs would be lost. The lost Tax revenue of people not working has potential to cause massive problems to health and public services that are not directly effected by AI but due to the reduction in money will available due to lost taxes. You can't just tax companies otherwise they'll leave or invest elsewhere.

We are certainly entering a challenging phase, I just need to get by for 10-12 years before I retire but, I really feel for the young going forward with fewer jobs available and more and more people fighting for them.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Free Collection $5 Payments Are Back
« on: June 28, 2023, 12:57 »
In the UK, last year I received 5 per image, this year I only received 3.83.....Should really receive $6.36 per image if you live in the UK but I guess that is a selfish POV :-)

Im quite sure we received 3.75 per image in the UK last year and all previous ones as it, as well as all income, was based on the pound being worth a fixed $0.75 which was under its actual value, conversion rate.

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It also sounds like a lot of people are opting out. Otherwise, there'd be no need to use declined, sub standard images that won't be joining the rest of the images in the contributors port.

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