Author Topic: 100% rejections plus new images not selling (Read 18846 times)

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #50 on:** June 04, 2013, 21:12 »

Quote from: JPSDK on June 04, 2013, 20:48

Sure, there are many things that are better than newspapers, but newspapers are often at hand when you need them.

And then can be used in quite an advanced way.
Fx the pages are not the same and the misture of black letters, images and white space can add to the quality of the reflection.
Not to mention if there is a colour photo on the page.
Plus they can be folded and such direct light from more than one direction.

This is also why there are things like white and black handkerchiefs.

And they can easily be carried in the camera bag and used in many way.

Improvise no matter what you have at hand you can probably use it to your advantage.

Jens you are fine.

There are others here that are well lets not say because they will start to cry.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #51 on:** June 04, 2013, 21:17 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 04, 2013, 21:12

There are others here that are well lets not say because they will start to cry.

I have no problem in telling who you are, you are pretty much the microstock rock star, go and help the critique section at SS big boy coz you never cry, that would make you less man

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #52 on:** June 04, 2013, 21:19 »

Was I talking to you?

Didn't think so.

JPSDK · « **Reply #53 on:** June 04, 2013, 21:38 »

Im getting tired of the personal attacks from some people here.

gillian vann · « **Reply #54 on:** June 05, 2013, 01:01 »

ditto, although I do find it endearing to read the insults from non-English speakers, some are quite poetic.

Silken Photography · « **Reply #55 on:** June 05, 2013, 18:35 »

Quote from: JPSDK on June 04, 2013, 21:38

Im getting tired of the personal attacks from some people here.

Personally, I found your ideas on how to use a newspaper interesting, I hadn't thought of that before. The random attack on your comment afterwards is what I found boring.

Les · « **Reply #56 on:** June 05, 2013, 21:13 »

Quote from: JPSDK on June 04, 2013, 21:06

Hello there!
I just try to help and pass on some of the tricks I have learned.

I tried to be helpful, and then Im told its boring.

You may want to think about how fertile your comments are for the forum.

Fertile - that needs some elaboration

prolific OR saturated with manure?

grsphoto · « **Reply #57 on:** June 05, 2013, 21:32 »

Quote from: gillian on June 04, 2013, 05:04

i'll have to look into it one day, when I feel like banging my head against something - i dislike making websites.

The thing about the Symbiostock idea is that is is relatively quick and easy... Leo has done all the hard work for you.

An experienced web/ wordpress person may take 1 hour to set it up.... a novice maybe a few days... but the thing is your site doesn't have to look good since the search from other sites will ( hopefully) be what brings the buyers.

Sorry for the thread hi-jack

RacePhoto · « **Reply #58 on:** June 05, 2013, 23:52 »

Quote from: Poncke v2 on June 03, 2013, 16:12

So everyone complaining their new images are not selling are submitting crapstock?

Everyone or just some people who never stop complaining? Some of us are doing better than ever.

You blame the reviews, then the search algorithm, then the review acceptance day, file numbers, and sometimes other people for stealing your ideas. (like your discovery of FAA) Have you ever considered it's what you are uploading and yourself?

Good move to Symbiostock and I'll dive in this Fall when I have time. I expect it's going to be a couple of nights and few days for me, and I have website experience, but none with Wordpress and I've been warned it can be quirky at first. I want to make sure I have time to concentrate. Hope it works out for you.

Quote from: grsphoto on June 05, 2013, 21:32

Quote from: gillian on June 04, 2013, 05:04
i'll have to look into it one day, when I feel like banging my head against something - i dislike making websites.

The thing about the Symbiostock idea is that is is relatively quick and easy... Leo has done all the hard work for you.

An experienced web/ wordpress person may take 1 hour to set it up.... a novice maybe a few days... but the thing is your site doesn't have to look good since the search from other sites will ( hopefully) be what brings the buyers.

Sorry for the thread hi-jack

Promoting Symbiostock can't be called a hijack on any thread can it?

Poncke v2 · « **Reply #59 on:** June 06, 2013, 03:49 »

Quote from: RacePhoto on June 05, 2013, 23:52

Quote from: Poncke v2 on June 03, 2013, 16:12
So everyone complaining their new images are not selling are submitting crapstock?

Everyone or just some people who never stop complaining? Some of us are doing better than ever.

You blame the reviews, then the search algorithm, then the review acceptance day, file numbers, and sometimes other people for stealing your ideas. Have you ever considered it's what you are uploading and yourself?

Good move to Symbiostock and I'll dive in this Fall when I have time. I expect it's going to be a couple of nights and few days for me, and I have website experience, but none with Wordpress and I've been warned it can be quirky at first. I want to make sure I have time to concentrate. Hope that works for you Semmick.

I never blamed any poor sales to people stealing ideas, and I have indeed always tried to figure out what the best practice is to increase sales. Like most people. Why wouldnt I figure out the best way to increase sales?

fotografer · « **Reply #60 on:** June 06, 2013, 04:08 »

Quote from: Poncke v2 on June 06, 2013, 03:49

Why wouldnt I figure out the best way to increase sales?

The only way to significantly increase sales is to upload lots of great quality, great concept images that are well keyworded.

Poncke v2 · « **Reply #61 on:** June 06, 2013, 04:47 »

Quote from: fotografer on June 06, 2013, 04:08

Quote from: Poncke v2 on June 06, 2013, 03:49

Why wouldnt I figure out the best way to increase sales?
The only way to significantly increase sales is to upload lots of great quality, great concept images that are well keyworded.

Of course, but you cant deny that the agencies have a big influence on sales. Check the SS forum, loads of people with big ports with extremely high quality images and vectors are down significantly. What about IS? Did all those people shooting extremely high quality stuff all of a sudden submit crap? I like to believe not.

But if I get 100% rejections and new stuff isnt picking up any sales, you need to figure out whats wrong. I dont need someone telling me that I am the problem. I am constantly changing what I shoot, and my work is improving, but most of all I shoot what I love. I am not going to do isolated table top work, just because it sells. That has nothing do to with complaining, I just need to be passionate about the subject otherwise I cant give it my all.

Loads of people mistake figuring out something or questioning something with complaining. And its those people that just plod on getting no where because they accept everything thats happening around them. Fair enough, they are probably happy people, but dont they dont need to get the idea they that they have to lecture people. Live and let live.

fotografer · « **Reply #62 on:** June 06, 2013, 05:27 »

double post

fotografer · « **Reply #63 on:** June 06, 2013, 05:28 »

Quote from: fotografer on June 06, 2013, 05:27

Quote from: Poncke v2 on June 06, 2013, 04:47
Quote from: fotografer on June 06, 2013, 04:08
Quote from: Poncke v2 on June 06, 2013, 03:49

Why wouldnt I figure out the best way to increase sales?
The only way to significantly increase sales is to upload lots of great quality, great concept images that are well keyworded.
Of course, but you cant deny that the agencies have a big influence on sales. Check the SS forum, loads of people with big ports with extremely high quality images and vectors are down significantly. What about IS? Did all those people shooting extremely high quality stuff all of a sudden submit crap? I like to believe not.

But if I get 100% rejections and new stuff isnt picking up any sales, you need to figure out whats wrong. I dont need someone telling me that I am the problem. I am constantly changing what I shoot, and my work is improving, but most of all I shoot what I love. I am not going to do isolated table top work, just because it sells. That has nothing do to with complaining, I just need to be passionate about the subject otherwise I cant give it my all.

Loads of people mistake figuring out something or questioning something with complaining. And its those people that just plod on getting no where because they accept everything thats happening around them. Fair enough, they are probably happy people, but dont they dont need to get the idea they that they have to lecture people. Live and let live.
Don't be so touchy, it wasn't meant as a critisism as I have never seen your work and I'm sorry that you took it that way. My point is that the things that the agencies do are out of our power to do anything about. I have been hit very badly by site changes but there is zero that we can do about changing that. About the only thing that we can do to help is to improve our work and keywording and upload as many good quality image as possible . I don't deny that the agencies have a big influence on it but there is nothing we can do about that so all I am saying is concentrate on the things that you can change and not waste time on things that you can't.

Poncke v2 · « **Reply #64 on:** June 06, 2013, 05:34 »

I didnt take it as criticism, I just responded to your comment and got carried away. It was also a more general comment, and not really directed at you personal.

I know I can only influence what is under my own control, but if the agency rejects 100% of that, then there is nothing else left then to ask for support within the micro stock community. Which sometimes is daunting as every thread ends up in arguments.

Maybe you are right, asking for support here in this forum is moot as all you get is stomped on as Race Photo just demonstrated. Not to mention the crap Jens gets for just offering his advice.

I am closing this account now and will come back under my real name. I am done with this endless arguing.

fotografer · « **Reply #65 on:** June 06, 2013, 05:37 »

Wow I'm shocked if you thought that what was meant as advice is argueing. My only point was change the things you can and don't waste time worrying about the rest. If you think that is argueing then I truly am sorry

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #66 on:** June 06, 2013, 09:20 »

Simply dont listen to or pay any attention to any one who is complaining sales are down.

Without out proof all it is is hearsay because there is no proof given to back it up.

One day they complain about piss poor sales and the next day they are having a BDE so who cares?

Do as fotografer said and change what you can.

We have no control or knowledge of how stocks sites operate or why they do what they do and it is not for us to know this or we would be working for them behind a desk in an office somewhere.

Red Dove · « **Reply #67 on:** June 06, 2013, 09:41 »

^^^Inclined to agree as far as SS goes. My last three batches (about 70 images) had a +95% acceptance rate and sales from new images have increased month on month since I started uploading again in February 2013.

There are very few people complaining about low sales given the size of the contributor base and, with very few exceptions, it seems to be the same people every time.

ShadySue · « **Reply #68 on:** June 06, 2013, 09:51 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 06, 2013, 09:20

Simply dont listen to or pay any attention to any one who is complaining sales are down.
Without out proof all it is is hearsay because there is no proof given to back it up.

One could say the same about people claiming sales are up.

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #69 on:** June 06, 2013, 09:57 »

Quote from: ShadySue on June 06, 2013, 09:51

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 06, 2013, 09:20
Simply dont listen to or pay any attention to any one who is complaining sales are down.
Without out proof all it is is hearsay because there is no proof given to back it up.
One could say the same about people claiming sales are up.

True just a bunch of talk without offering up any proof.

tickstock · « **Reply #70 on:** June 06, 2013, 09:58 »

Red Dove · « **Reply #71 on:** June 06, 2013, 10:02 »

Quote from: ShadySue on June 06, 2013, 09:51

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 06, 2013, 09:20
Simply dont listen to or pay any attention to any one who is complaining sales are down.
Without out proof all it is is hearsay because there is no proof given to back it up.
One could say the same about people claiming sales are up.

One could. Since they often turn out to be the very same people who complained about poor sales the week before.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #72 on:** June 06, 2013, 10:16 »

Quote from: Red Dove on June 06, 2013, 10:02

Quote from: ShadySue on June 06, 2013, 09:51
Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 06, 2013, 09:20
Simply dont listen to or pay any attention to any one who is complaining sales are down.
Without out proof all it is is hearsay because there is no proof given to back it up.
One could say the same about people claiming sales are up.

One could. Since they often turn out to be the very same people who complained about poor sales the week before.

jackpoooooooooooooooooooooooot

ShadySue · « **Reply #73 on:** June 06, 2013, 11:55 »

Quote from: tickstock on June 06, 2013, 09:58

Quote from: ShadySue on June 06, 2013, 09:51
Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 06, 2013, 09:20
Simply dont listen to or pay any attention to any one who is complaining sales are down.
Without out proof all it is is hearsay because there is no proof given to back it up.
One could say the same about people claiming sales are up.
Would screen shots of our sales be good enough or do you need notarized copies of our bank statements?

Don't ask me. I was only pointing out the argument cuts both ways.

ShadySue · « **Reply #74 on:** June 06, 2013, 12:00 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 06, 2013, 10:16

Quote from: Red Dove on June 06, 2013, 10:02
Quote from: ShadySue on June 06, 2013, 09:51
Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 06, 2013, 09:20
Simply dont listen to or pay any attention to any one who is complaining sales are down.
Without out proof all it is is hearsay because there is no proof given to back it up.
One could say the same about people claiming sales are up.

One could. Since they often turn out to be the very same people who complained about poor sales the week before.

jackpoooooooooooooooooooooooot

That's mainly Lagereek and his alter egos.

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Author Topic: 100% rejections plus new images not selling (Read 18846 times)

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