I never saw an official announcement from ss on the site
Deals being made without telling contributers, and what is the commission? Subscription price?
Microstock is a wretched industry now, and getting more disappointingby the day!

I never saw an official announcement from ss on the site
Deals being made without telling contributers, and what is the commission? Subscription price?
Microstock is a wretched industry now, and getting more disappointingby the day!

It is not on the Shutterstock site.
But is that enough official for you?

Quote from: noodle on March 11, 2017, 08:38

I never saw an official announcement from ss on the site
Deals being made without telling contributers, and what is the commission? Subscription price?
Microstock is a wretched industry now, and getting more disappointingby the day!

It is not on the Shutterstock site.
But is that enough official for you?

That tweet was from Digital trends reposted by Jon Oringer who seems more interested in his guitar collection than his business.

The official announcement should have come from Shutterstock

I had a quick look and thankfully didn't see any from my portfolio. The prices are much lower than other POD sites and as I already sell elsewhere, I would want an opt out from what has to be a lowball royalty given the prices they're selling the prints for.

Zero Talent, did they ask you about your work being included? I'm assuming not or you wouldn't have had to "find" 7 of yours.

It may be, if amazon is successful, that they'll drag prices down at other POD sites as a result, but I certainly wouldn't want to compete with myself by being forced into SS sales of this sort. Shades of Getty and the Google deal that they think they no longer have to ask about anything.

I hope someone who is included asks SS to let them opt out so we can see just how good SS still is at listening to contributors...

I actually think its a good thing but the way its been launched is shoddy and unprofessional...par for the course I guess.

I actually think its a good thing but the way its been launched is shoddy and unprofessional...par for the course I guess.

Why would it be good if one didn't have to opt in, if one can't opt out and if those who sell elsewhere are undercutting themselves without a choice. Do you even know how much suppliers are being paid?
SS is getting more and more like iS/Getty as time goes on.

Quote from: noodle on March 11, 2017, 08:38

I never saw an official announcement from ss on the site
Deals being made without telling contributers, and what is the commission? Subscription price?
Microstock is a wretched industry now, and getting more disappointingby the day!

It is not on the Shutterstock site.
But is that enough official for you?

I mentioned no official announcement from ss - not in the way that I doubt the truthfulness of this, but in a way to express disappointment that I had heard it through third party media rather than an official announcement or email from ss.

Disappointing indeed

to my simple mind the agencies' job is to find more channels for our work it seems odd to complain about them doing that.

If I am selling my work as prints on Amazon, and Shutterstock starts selling the SAME THING, for less money, I get ripped off.  Shutterstock intends to pay me only 36 cents for something I normally get $5 for.

Quote from: Hannafate on March 11, 2017, 13:33

Quote from: Pauws99 on March 11, 2017, 12:50

to my simple mind the agencies' job is to find more channels for our work it seems odd to complain about them doing that.

If I am selling my work as prints on Amazon, and Shutterstock starts selling the SAME THING, for less money, I get ripped off.  Shutterstock intends to pay me only 36 cents for something I normally get $5 for.

Thats an arguement for not selling on Microstock at all which is fine if thats you want to do but I don't see why this is different from licencing JPEGs for 36c when you sell them somewhere else for $5.

Presumably there are people selling prints on e.g. FAA (other outlets are available) and netting much more than $5 there.

Quote from: Chichikov on March 11, 2017, 09:11

Quote from: noodle on March 11, 2017, 08:38

I never saw an official announcement from ss on the site
Deals being made without telling contributers, and what is the commission? Subscription price?
Microstock is a wretched industry now, and getting more disappointingby the day!

It is not on the Shutterstock site.
But is that enough official for you?

I mentioned no official announcement from ss - not in the way that I doubt the truthfulness of this, but in a way to express disappointment that I had heard it through third party media rather than an official announcement or email from ss.

Disappointing indeed

Okay, I get it now

I actually think its a good thing but the way its been launched is shoddy and unprofessional...par for the course I guess.

How can you possibly say it's "a good thing" without knowing what you'd be  paid?

So glad I closed my SS account earlier this year.

Quote from: stockastic on March 11, 2017, 14:48

Quote from: Pauws99 on March 11, 2017, 11:36

I actually think its a good thing but the way its been launched is shoddy and unprofessional...par for the course I guess.

How can you possibly say it's "a good thing" without knowing what you'd be  paid?

So glad I closed my SS account earlier this year.

Fair point In principle its a good thing and what I would expect Microstock sites to do.....plenty of people seem happy to say its a bad thing without knowing what they would be paid.

SS announces they're "excited" about this great new opportunity, while forgetting to tell the photographers anything about it.  Like their commission, for example.  I agree we can't assume the worst, but I think it's a good bet that the phrase "diddly squat" turns out to be apropos.