WooYay? 

It means they need to dump 70 Million for sales to come back. LOL

Agree, when I joined Up, SS had 350,000 and we used to be blown away by that number.

Five years from now.... it will be half a billion images or more...

you'd think if they cared, that they would change the front page from 90,000,000 to 100,000,000.

you'd think if they cared, that they would change the front page from 90,000,000 to 100,000,000.

They've probably forgot to give the monkey who did that his nuts so hes gone to spend time with his fellow primates and no one else can remember how to do it.

the "black hole" just got blacker

Quote from: trek on September 08, 2016, 16:40

Five years from now.... it will be half a billion images or more...

Five years from now the company won't even exist. All internal problems, staff this and that bean-counters at the steering wheel coupled with mounting competition plus all external problems.
Who knows maybe if SS folded we would be back to square one and a much healthier stock climate?

I am sorry but what a bull%$^ you are saying. I am always surprised how much many people pretend to know.......

The managing part SS will know far much better what to do then us. They are running the company for year..... we are the photographers. For sure we dont know better what to do. It is always easy to talk on the other side.

I dont say it is true but i dont belief that SS will close any time soon and for sure not in 5 years. Just because you dont like that there is so many competition (best would be to have all agency for your own) doesnt mean that it is going bad with the company.

Just to be short. SS is for everybody and everyone has right to submit their images. If you dont like that start your own website and sell them there. No competition on your site.

100 million is still far and far not much. There is so much to be covered in different ways and everything is needed. Especially in the editorial section is much work to do. The possibilities are endless.

And also no need to say again where is the quality. What is quality. Your image need to be technically correct along with a good composition. Then most is sold. I said it already but when someone needs a pear photo for an fruit article he just needs a pear on the photo. Done. A HDR colorwonder of a hybrid pear on a futuristic table is not needed. Useful images are needed and not wall decorations. My last 20 sales are of subjects that are the most common things photographed on most simple way.

To be short 100 million is nothing in this business. 100 million dollars in my pocket is a different thing.

Quote from: gyllens on September 08, 2016, 23:59

Quote from: trek on September 08, 2016, 16:40

Five years from now.... it will be half a billion images or more...

Five years from now the company won't even exist. All internal problems, staff this and that bean-counters at the steering wheel coupled with mounting competition plus all external problems.
Who knows maybe if SS folded we would be back to square one and a much healthier stock climate?

I am sorry but what a bull%$^ you are saying. I am always surprised how much many people pretend to know.......

The managing part SS will know far much better what to do then us. They are running the company for year..... we are the photographers. For sure we dont know better what to do. It is always easy to talk on the other side.

I dont say it is true but i dont belief that SS will close any time soon and for sure not in 5 years. Just because you dont like that there is so many competition (best would be to have all agency for your own) doesnt mean that it is going bad with the company.

Just to be short. SS is for everybody and everyone has right to submit their images. If you dont like that start your own website and sell them there. No competition on your site.

100 million is still far and far not much. There is so much to be covered in different ways and everything is needed. Especially in the editorial section is much work to do. The possibilities are endless.

And also no need to say again where is the quality. What is quality. Your image need to be technically correct along with a good composition. Then most is sold. I said it already but when someone needs a pear photo for an fruit article he just needs a pear on the photo. Done. A HDR colorwonder of a hybrid pear on a futuristic table is not needed. Useful images are needed and not wall decorations. My last 20 sales are of subjects that are the most common things photographed on most simple way.

To be short 100 million is nothing in this business. 100 million dollars in my pocket is a different thing.

Quote " start your own webbsite ".  I did that four years ago.

Quote from: trek on September 08, 2016, 16:40

Five years from now.... it will be half a billion images or more...

If they don't get their IT straightened out they may not be here five years from now.

5 yrs??? pb, you are so optimistic, i am betting 5 months,.. even maybe 5 weeks,
the whole thing will blow up in our face like a ticking timebomb

There are plenty of examples of much bigger companies that have failed catastrophically with plenty of very clever people running them. You don't have to be a expert management strategist to see over the last few months things are not right at SS. For what its worth I think they will pull it round but they do need to get a grip.

re: red... 
still, there is about xxx million contributors still in denial and celebrating like monkeys getting
a handful of peanuts.

Not to mention big corporations run by GREEDY psychopaths.

no, ... correct that to read..
cousins of cousins of GREEDY psychopaths ; the latter are major shareholders...
they don't run the corporation, they ruin it
.

Come on. Istock has been 10x as bad for 10x as long and is still dragging along. SS won't be disappearing anytime soon.

They just need to get things fixed. Hopefully the real competition from Adobe will get them to up their game.

Sales were better in August and ELs have been picking up again.

Its an almost morbid and daunting prospect for a buyer to start rummaging around for a picture among 100 million images. I can't understand why they even  wish to let people know this.
It must be a sign but the Boutique agencies are just going up and up with average sales of $.150 where micro-stock with SS in the lead seem either stagnant or going down at least when listening to the majority of people and I know many members who never writes in any forums and its the same story. I really can't in any way see how they can regain anything since they are not listening to long term contributors with tons of experience, forums or anything. Just plodding on hoping for the best. Strange way of doing business.