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Peter

« on: April 05, 2008, 09:34 »

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I dont. Why? I have a theory that if a byer notice that all my images are full size he will bookmark my portfolio and keep tracking what is new, and buy more of my images, rather thatn from someone who do downsize images. That is my theory. I never downsize. The 0.3$ per image is maybe a low price, but I want to sell as much as posible, to make it up in quanity.

What is your opinion about downsizing? Right thing, or wrong?


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Kngkyle

« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2008, 09:45 »

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No. I don't see any real reason to waste time and space on my computer to do that.


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Dreamframer

« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2008, 11:22 »

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I do it sometimes, when my images get rejections because they are not totally sharp in full size. Then I resize them close to minimum (4,2-4,5 mpix) and they usually get accepted after it.


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cphoto

« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2008, 11:32 »

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Always: usually to 4MP, sometimes to 2.5MP (the minimum allowed).

This way I get everything accepted, no more rejection for noise even for shots at 1600 ISO.

I don't believe this affects my sales at all (I have close to 30,000 DLs with SS in 2 years).

If a buyer wants to buy the full size they will have to pay for it, LOL. I now shoot with a 21MP camera and you'll never find my full size images with micros ;-)


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rene

« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2008, 11:32 »

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Yes, same for DT, 123. It makes me feel better.


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sharply_done

« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2008, 11:37 »

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I downsize SS images to 4MP.

SS upsizes images by 4x - downsizing has no effect on the sizes of images in your portfolio.


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Peter

« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2008, 11:47 »

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yeah, but when they uspize, there is loss of quality. i guess.


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basti

« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2008, 08:12 »

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Chode: it is loss of quality. But SS sell pretty well their interpolated oversaturated pics so I dont mind. Clients want it, clients get it. I do always downsize to avoid potential refusals for noise/artifacts.


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Secretariat

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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2008, 09:14 »

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Quote from: Chode on April 05, 2008, 11:47

yeah, but when they uspize, there is loss of quality. i guess.

Correct me if Im missing something here but its my impression they upsize your image regardless of orginal size.


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GeoPappas

« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2008, 09:51 »

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Quote from: Secretariat on April 06, 2008, 09:14

Quote from: Chode on April 05, 2008, 11:47

yeah, but when they uspize, there is loss of quality. i guess.

Correct me if Im missing something here but its my impression they upsize your image regardless of orginal size.

That is true for the most part, but they don't upsize images that are above a certain megapixel size. I'm not sure exactly what that limit is , but I believe that it is somewhere around 16 MP.


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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2008, 17:45 »

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Quote from: GeoPappas on April 06, 2008, 09:51

Quote from: Secretariat on April 06, 2008, 09:14

Quote from: Chode on April 05, 2008, 11:47

yeah, but when they uspize, there is loss of quality. i guess.

Correct me if Im missing something here but its my impression they upsize your image regardless of orginal size.

That is true for the most part, but they don't upsize images that are above a certain megapixel size. I'm not sure exactly what that limit is , but I believe that it is somewhere around 16 MP.

Ok, thanks, it makes sense. But I am a little shocked to see a 9.1 MP image of mine get supersized to 36 MP! It makes me wonder whats best, to submit a 16MP image (provided your camera outputs that, I dont mean homegrown upsizing) and thereby missing out on the 36 MP option or the other way around.


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jorgeinthewater

« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2008, 21:52 »

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Ever since I read a post by Sharply_done on the way to submit to SS I have been downsizing. It's the last step before I save the image. Have not had a rejection for noise since then and that was a while back.


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graficallyminded

« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2008, 22:00 »

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I don't mean to sound negative, but I can't screw around with having mutliple sizes for different agencies. I should, but I don't because it's just an extra step - more time consuming. Maybe this is why it's been about 2 months that I've already been accepted to Alamy, and yet I still haven't gotten around to upsizing all of my images for upload.

So are we supposed to have 3 versions of every image? One saved for Alamy sizes, one for SS, and the other for the rest of the micros where larger sizes yield larger payouts? That's just too much work, to me.


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Seren

« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2008, 01:40 »

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Quote from: graficallyminded on April 06, 2008, 22:00

Save the resize as an action. Mine literally takes me two extra clicks to resize for Shutterstock and Alamy.


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basti

« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2008, 03:36 »

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Action -> batch process -> save result in SS folder and another in Alamy folder and thats it.

In fact I probably wouldnt bother myself with downsizing in case I have super quality camera but now it helps me to avoid any potential noise/artifacts trouble. And unless they change their subscription to various prices for various sizes I dont see any reason to put bigger images there.


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DanP68

« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2008, 01:00 »

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An important question to consider however, is if you are potentially losing sales because customers are looking for a large size image to download. While I wish Shutterstock charged (and paid) more for larger images, I accept that their model works remarkably well for contributors. Perhaps if I had a Hassy, I would feel more inclined to downsize than I do with my 30D, lol.


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cphoto

« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2008, 14:25 »

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Quote from: DanP68 on April 09, 2008, 01:00

You might lose 1 or 2% sales but you'll make 20 or 30% more sales with pictures that would not have been accepted if not sized down to remove defects such as noise etc... Wink

I have quite a few underwater pics at ISO 1600 downsized at 2.5MP that sell pretty well...


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hospitalera

« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2008, 15:13 »

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I have a vintage Canon 300D, not much margin to downsize with 6MP Grin


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gborce

« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2008, 13:51 »

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Ever since I started downsizing to 4MP (from 10) for SS no more rejections for noise/artifacts! Now if they only got their act together about the lighting/composition crap...


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Alatriste

« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2008, 08:30 »

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I have very few rejections for noise artifacts at SS (and when I had them they were obvious).
In the other hand, my problem is IS where I have a lot of rejections for that reason. Im thinking in downsize for IS but dont know if it is a good idea because of different prices for diferent sizes...


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Vonkara

« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2008, 13:21 »

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Quote from: Trebuchet on April 11, 2008, 08:30

You can still downsize to 6mpx and have the L size. But then it's good to have a 10mpx or more camera


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