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« Reply #75 on: January 19, 2017, 07:17 »
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Sales stopped! Usually 40-50 sales per day, this days only few subs! This month 78% down in comparison with last Jan. Btw Dec 2016 was my BME on SS. My port is 45% bigger than last year. Around 4k images online.



« Reply #76 on: January 19, 2017, 09:08 »
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Sales stopped! Usually 40-50 sales per day, this days only few subs! This month 78% down in comparison with last Jan. Btw Dec 2016 was my BME on SS. My port is 45% bigger than last year. Around 4k images online.

This is my experience, too, in sheer downloads.  I have kept up by SOD and video.  On Sunday I made $100. I almost always make $4-$6 on a Sunday. These one-offs are saving my rear in order to at least maintain my monthly income.  That $100 BTW was three sales (2 video and one SOD).

« Reply #77 on: January 19, 2017, 10:12 »
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Sales stopped! Usually 40-50 sales per day, this days only few subs! This month 78% down in comparison with last Jan. Btw Dec 2016 was my BME on SS. My port is 45% bigger than last year. Around 4k images online.

This is my experience, too, in sheer downloads.  I have kept up by SOD and video.  On Sunday I made $100. I almost always make $4-$6 on a Sunday. These one-offs are saving my rear in order to at least maintain my monthly income.  That $100 BTW was three sales (2 video and one SOD).

me too. the thing is unexpectedly january open up surprisingly with SOD and sales which you didn't expect due the the holidays, but then it peters out to lots of zero days till now.
the thing is, we should not expect SOD to save the month for us...
which has been my case for a long time already... although the $80 and $102 are non-existent anymore for me. evn the $28 is a dodo bird.

« Reply #78 on: January 20, 2017, 10:39 »
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Hi there,

First post on here, I noticed in Nov/16 that my sales were down (only been doing 3 years) so I started looking at why.
When I used to load to SS the words loaded alphabetically as they still do via lightburner, however the new algorithm clearly works on keyword order and title word order.

As been off work with a torn knee I started reordering keywords and titles using the order of the most popular search words. Put in same order in title sentence if appropriate and keyword order a MUST (making pin sharp keywords better for customers searches) instead of them bringing up hundreds of irrelevant pictures.

Its very time consuming so I started with my most popular pictures
Hope this helps with re-couping lost sales?
cheers
LJ
« Last Edit: January 31, 2017, 09:00 by Cheekylorns »

FlowerPower

« Reply #79 on: January 20, 2017, 11:38 »
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Hi there,

First post on here, I noticed in Nov/16 that my sales were down (only been doing 3 years) so I started looking at why.
When I used to load to SS the words loaded alphabetically as they still do via lightburner, however the new algorithm clearly works on keyword order and title word order.

As been off work with a torn knee I started reordering keywords and titles using the order of the most popular search words in 'insights' and then 'image gallery stats' this tells you what % of sales are to each words. Put in same order in title sentence if appropriate and keyword order a MUST (making pin sharp keywords better for customers searches) instead of them bringing up hundreds of irrelevant pictures.

Due to new algorithm you will have to do this with old pictures (as keywords will be in alphabetical order) even your popular ones or they simply will NOT sell. This is why some peoples new pictures are coming up on page 1 in 'popular' searches despite not having sold a single time. Maybe they are accounting for people clicking into them but not buying but I doubt it.
Its very time consuming so I started with my most popular pictures
Hope this helps with re-couping lost sales? mine were up in Dec by 43% so def worth looking at if you have time free and a nerd brain like mine!
cheers
LJ

Doesn't SS reorder your keywords and the order we put them means nothing? Maybe others it matters. IS no matter, they put words in their order. Adobe you pick the first 7, don't know what after that. That's the big three that matter. I'm not going to keep changing words and order for every agencies idea of what they should be.

« Reply #80 on: January 20, 2017, 13:36 »
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My best selling image at the moment seems to have keywords all in the wrong order.  I'm not changing it.

« Reply #81 on: January 20, 2017, 13:42 »
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Hello all,
I just discovered that many many of my images in my portfolio are not displayed when i click on it on buyer SS site !
I understand why my sales have dropped ! :-\
I've written to SS to check what is happening. If only 1 on 5 images of my files are displayed when buyer click on it (I've got 2000 images), then I'll make 5x less income than usually
This is extremely worrying. Are you experiencing the same
Could you check if that 's happening with your port ?
Thx

« Reply #82 on: January 20, 2017, 13:47 »
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i'm packing my bags and i'm going home.

« Reply #83 on: January 20, 2017, 15:10 »
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i'm packing my bags and i'm going home.

you might be turned back at the US border  ;)

seriously, it's because everyone's gone to Trump inaugeration ogre-ration

« Reply #84 on: January 21, 2017, 08:06 »
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Hi there,

First post on here, I noticed in Nov/16 that my sales were down (only been doing 3 years) so I started looking at why.
When I used to load to SS the words loaded alphabetically as they still do via lightburner, however the new algorithm clearly works on keyword order and title word order.

As been off work with a torn knee I started reordering keywords and titles using the order of the most popular search words in 'insights' and then 'image gallery stats' this tells you what % of sales are to each words. Put in same order in title sentence if appropriate and keyword order a MUST (making pin sharp keywords better for customers searches) instead of them bringing up hundreds of irrelevant pictures.

Due to new algorithm you will have to do this with old pictures (as keywords will be in alphabetical order) even your popular ones or they simply will NOT sell. This is why some peoples new pictures are coming up on page 1 in 'popular' searches despite not having sold a single time. Maybe they are accounting for people clicking into them but not buying but I doubt it.
Its very time consuming so I started with my most popular pictures
Hope this helps with re-couping lost sales? mine were up in Dec by 43% so def worth looking at if you have time free and a nerd brain like mine!
cheers
LJ

Doesn't SS reorder your keywords and the order we put them means nothing? Maybe others it matters. IS no matter, they put words in their order. Adobe you pick the first 7, don't know what after that. That's the big three that matter. I'm not going to keep changing words and order for every agencies idea of what they should be.

yes it first puts up in alphabetical order but after has been published you can go back in via catalogue manager and change order of keywords from alphabetical to more relevant. its annoying they won't stay in same order as loaded as does on some other sites

« Reply #85 on: January 21, 2017, 08:51 »
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hmmm, i really didn't think keyword order had any significance in search ranking at shutterstock.  i guess comparing keyword order of popular vs best match of a single search word would be a good way to tell.

« Reply #86 on: January 21, 2017, 09:41 »
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no chance in hell that ss uses keyword order, rubbish

« Reply #87 on: January 21, 2017, 10:52 »
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hey I'm no expert just something I noticed  Only trying to help
« Last Edit: January 31, 2017, 08:57 by Cheekylorns »

« Reply #88 on: January 21, 2017, 10:58 »
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=)
« Last Edit: January 31, 2017, 08:55 by Cheekylorns »

« Reply #89 on: January 21, 2017, 10:59 »
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I have noticed something too - the policies of majority of agencies regarding contributors are "faire chier" them

« Reply #90 on: January 21, 2017, 11:16 »
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this is what happened.... if you can think of any other reasons I'd love to hear as optimising my sales and SEO on sites is an area of interest
i can't help but wonder if keyword order helps with 'best match' searches. 
If my photo of water has the keyword 'water' in the 15th position and you're photo of water has 'water' in the 1st position would that give your photo higher ranking in best match search? 

Tyson Anderson

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« Reply #91 on: January 21, 2017, 13:32 »
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Things are starting to pick back up for me.  Slow start to January after a slow December and November.  October was my best month ever.  I've been seeing image sales increase while videos are slowing starting to sell more consistently.


Jafo2016

« Reply #92 on: January 21, 2017, 13:56 »
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no chance in hell that ss uses keyword order, rubbish

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They reorder they alpha sort they change them.

« Reply #93 on: January 22, 2017, 14:21 »
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I've tried to reorder keywords in SS but doesn't work for me at the moment:
Catalog Manager -> edit keywords' order of a photo -> Submit & Save = nothing changes, same old order (even waiting 48h).
Am I doing something wrong?

dpimborough

« Reply #94 on: January 22, 2017, 14:30 »
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I've tried to reorder keywords in SS but doesn't work for me at the moment:
Catalog Manager -> edit keywords' order of a photo -> Submit & Save = nothing changes, same old order (even waiting 48h).
Am I doing something wrong?

You can not change the keyword order it's pointless trying

jonbull

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« Reply #95 on: January 23, 2017, 10:52 »
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12 download from friday...unbelievable....day before friday 46....i am afraid another change from ss.

derek

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« Reply #96 on: January 23, 2017, 11:10 »
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Hello all,
I just discovered that many many of my images in my portfolio are not displayed when i click on it on buyer SS site !
I understand why my sales have dropped ! :-\
I've written to SS to check what is happening. If only 1 on 5 images of my files are displayed when buyer click on it (I've got 2000 images), then I'll make 5x less income than usually
This is extremely worrying. Are you experiencing the same
Could you check if that 's happening with your port ?
Thx


Glad you mentioned this cause its the same here! I buy and contribute. The same eight or ten pictures are selling every day but when logging in as a buyer I can only see a small fraction of my pictures. Have also written to SS about a possible bug? they replied no bug and that everything was fine. its not. Whats going on?

« Reply #97 on: January 23, 2017, 11:18 »
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Hello all,
I just discovered that many many of my images in my portfolio are not displayed when i click on it on buyer SS site !
I understand why my sales have dropped ! :-\
I've written to SS to check what is happening. If only 1 on 5 images of my files are displayed when buyer click on it (I've got 2000 images), then I'll make 5x less income than usually
This is extremely worrying. Are you experiencing the same
Could you check if that 's happening with your port ?
Thx


Glad you mentioned this cause its the same here! I buy and contribute. The same eight or ten pictures are selling every day but when logging in as a buyer I can only see a small fraction of my pictures. Have also written to SS about a possible bug? they replied no bug and that everything was fine. its not. Whats going on?

I believe they now call this Alternative Facts, got to give it to Shutterstock they got into the new regime mode pretty quick.

« Reply #98 on: January 23, 2017, 11:21 »
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Hello all,
I just discovered that many many of my images in my portfolio are not displayed when i click on it on buyer SS site !
I understand why my sales have dropped ! :-\
I've written to SS to check what is happening. If only 1 on 5 images of my files are displayed when buyer click on it (I've got 2000 images), then I'll make 5x less income than usually
This is extremely worrying. Are you experiencing the same
Could you check if that 's happening with your port ?
Thx


Glad you mentioned this cause its the same here! I buy and contribute. The same eight or ten pictures are selling every day but when logging in as a buyer I can only see a small fraction of my pictures. Have also written to SS about a possible bug? they replied no bug and that everything was fine. its not. Whats going on?

I believe they now call this Alternative Facts, got to give it to Shutterstock they got into the new regime mode pretty quick.
I noticed this year before. Even i don't have a buyer account, my client several times pointed to this problem, when he was not able to find photos he needed in my portfolio.

« Reply #99 on: January 23, 2017, 13:22 »
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Hello all,
I just discovered that many many of my images in my portfolio are not displayed when i click on it on buyer SS site !
I understand why my sales have dropped ! :-\
I've written to SS to check what is happening. If only 1 on 5 images of my files are displayed when buyer click on it (I've got 2000 images), then I'll make 5x less income than usually
This is extremely worrying. Are you experiencing the same
Could you check if that 's happening with your port ?
Thx



Glad you mentioned this cause its the same here! I buy and contribute. The same eight or ten pictures are selling every day but when logging in as a buyer I can only see a small fraction of my pictures. Have also written to SS about a possible bug? they replied no bug and that everything was fine. its not. Whats going on?


Ok. How can they answer this to you as the bug is so obvious ?! You should show them this :


I will do if they dare to answer me there is no bug...
I also sent them bunch of links leading to this same page


 

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