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« on: May 02, 2013, 02:33 »
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Hi all,

Some of my photos of colloseum have been rejected by shutterstock stating that they can't accept the picture due to absence of property release but they have been accepted but some others.

What is the criteria? Why is it not consistent across all? Is it sth that we as a contributor need to be careful that we should not submit?


ShadySue

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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2013, 07:01 »
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I'm assuming you're talking about the one in Rome, but there are plenty others, and it's possible some of these may require PRs, though that would be difficult to justify under EU Law (some aren't in the EU), but vide NT, EH, HS etc.

Assuming it's the Colloseum in Rome, did they specifically say you need a PR for the colloseum? Could there be a small thing in the image like a logo that you missed?

Do SS have a section somewhere that lists what they need PRs for? There are 537 images tagged Colloseum Rome on SS. If they need PRs, I'm astonished they hand them out willy-nilly! (e.g. The NTS will give releases in some cases, but you have to give them 50% of the proceeds, which rules out agency sales.)

« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2013, 07:51 »
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The pics are of the colloseum in Rome. And specifically it is of the  amphitheater inside the colloseum. I saw similar picture in SS and with no PR

ShadySue

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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2013, 08:18 »
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The pics are of the colloseum in Rome. And specifically it is of the  amphitheater inside the colloseum. I saw similar picture in SS and with no PR
Do SS have a system whereby you can ask for more info about a rejection?

« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2013, 08:34 »
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I doubt.

Anyone else aware of this feature?

« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2013, 08:45 »
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They changed the "rules" a couple of years ago.  It is likely that if you look at the image numbers of pictures similar to yours, you will find that they are from several years ago or later.  It is possible that a few may slip in today, but overall they reject most architectural shots without a property release.  They have a post in their general submit forum
http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80843  with 4 pages of comments.

You could try submitting them as "editorial use" using their caption format.

« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 09:47 »
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For dealing with all inconsistencies regarding criteria and regulations at stock agencies I found the following two rules useful:

1) The agency is always right.

2) In the unlikely event that the agency is not right, see rule 1.

I know it's frustrating to see others' pictures on-line and have yours rejected, or to have to follow rules that are completely unnecessary because an agency wants to cover its backside. In the long run I found it healthier to just move on...

Regarding your special case, I think the suggestion to submit them as editorial is worth trying.

Poncke v2

« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2013, 10:00 »
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The agencies dont know themselves what they want, and inconsistencies across agencies and within agencies is consistent.

I always seem to be the first one to be hit with new regulations on Shutterstock. I always check the library if what I submit is not problematic. I check for similar images, and check image numbers, if they are new numbers, I submit my images. And then they are rejected for copyright, so I contact the agency and point out the latest accepted images, and images accepted AFTER mine was rejected and then I end up with the rules Ploink just pointed out:

1) The agency is always right.

2) In the unlikely event that the agency is not right, see rule 1.

Only sometimes they tell me its ok to resubmit, but most of the time its a canned response, we are right, you are wrong, what was accepted yesterday or tomorrow is our business.


 

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