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Title: Irrelevant keywords
Post by: Steveball on July 31, 2017, 13:34
Keywords -- Irrelevant keywords were used or your keywords were not in English.

Uploaded 3 files 3 times, each time deleting keywords! There's only real English words left. Any ideas why? Previous files with almost identical keywords were accepted and this is driving me nuts! Being able to add a message to submissions like we used to would be so much simpler.

Ta.

Title: Re: Irrelevant keywords
Post by: Hannafate on July 31, 2017, 14:18
We can't help you without seeing the picture, and a list of keywords. 
Title: Re: Irrelevant keywords
Post by: Steveball on July 31, 2017, 16:53
Files now accepted. Keywords that were previously rejected...

country, dirty, faded, flag, identity, nationality, surface, aged, old, nation, symbol, weathered, brick, wall, brick wall, France, French, red, blue, white, France flag, French flag, wall flag,

You can probably imagine the unoriginal image.
Just wondered if phrases were the problem for certain reviewers.
Title: Re: Irrelevant keywords
Post by: ShadySue on July 31, 2017, 17:46
Well, you know: France - it's a French word.  ::) :P
Title: Re: Irrelevant keywords
Post by: dpimborough on August 01, 2017, 00:48
Its the constant repitition of the words Flag, France and French.

There's no need to do it.  No doubt SS picked it up as keyword spamming.
Title: Re: Irrelevant keywords
Post by: Steveball on August 01, 2017, 04:04
Thanks StC. I thought phrases were considered separately from single keywords, never intentionally spam.
Title: Re: Irrelevant keywords
Post by: ShadySue on August 01, 2017, 04:57
Thanks StC. I thought phrases were considered separately from single keywords, never intentionally spam.
No, that's the downside of their system. Like Alamy, words in a phrase get split up and then in search can merge with words from another phrase.
So if you have 'abc def' and 'zyx wvu', that will show up in searches for 'abc def', and 'zyx wvu', but also abc, def, zyz, wvu, which may or may not be relevant, and also 'abc zyx', 'def zyx', 'wvu abc' etc., which are often wrong.
The example I use for testing is Blue Whale. On SS, that brings up any whale or whale shark which also has blue in the keywords, e.g. blue sky, blue ocean ... as well as the inevitable spam and mistaken identifications.
And this curiosity (Yeah, I'm still automatically in Portuguese!) captioned "Man jumping in the water and hunting for fish" https://www.shutterstock.com/pt/image-photo/man-jumping-into-water-ocean-hunting-686936851?src=DyrxCnX2InTp5D7VgK5FKw-1-46 (https://www.shutterstock.com/pt/image-photo/man-jumping-into-water-ocean-hunting-686936851?src=DyrxCnX2InTp5D7VgK5FKw-1-46) No man, no whale!
Title: Re: Irrelevant keywords
Post by: Pauws99 on August 01, 2017, 05:11
Thanks StC. I thought phrases were considered separately from single keywords, never intentionally spam.
No, that's the downside of their system. Like Alamy, words in a phrase get split up and then in search can merge with words from another search.
So if you have abc def and zyx wvu, that will show up in searches for 'abc def', and 'zyx wvu', but also abc, def, zyz, wvu, which may or may not be relevant, and also 'abc zyx', 'def zyx', 'wvu abc' etc., which are often wrong.
The example I use for testing is Blue Whale. On SS, that brings up any whale or whale shark which also has blue in the keywords, e.g. blue sky, blue ocean ... as well as the inevitable spam and mistaken identifications.
And this curiosity (Yeah, I'm still automatically in Portuguese!) captioned "Man jumping in the water and hunting for fish" https://www.shutterstock.com/pt/image-photo/man-jumping-into-water-ocean-hunting-686936851?src=DyrxCnX2InTp5D7VgK5FKw-1-46 (https://www.shutterstock.com/pt/image-photo/man-jumping-into-water-ocean-hunting-686936851?src=DyrxCnX2InTp5D7VgK5FKw-1-46) No man, no whale!
I'm getting Portugese too!
Title: Re: Irrelevant keywords
Post by: Steveball on August 01, 2017, 06:39
Thanks for the info Sue, appreciated.
Title: Re: Irrelevant keywords
Post by: YadaYadaYada on August 01, 2017, 10:04
Its the constant repitition of the words Flag, France and French.

There's no need to do it.  No doubt SS picked it up as keyword spamming.

Right!