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« Reply #75 on: November 12, 2017, 04:55 »
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Yes, I think they've made some adjustment to it to allow unlisted keywords to be marked correct. I just uploaded something else and a "mark as correct" option appeared.


Chichikov

« Reply #76 on: November 12, 2017, 05:23 »
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The worst problem I've got with it is that it forces you to remove keywords it doesn't like before you submit. This means that place-names and other stuff that aren't in its "controlled vocab" can't be used.. It rejects Dafna, which is the equivalent of Manhattan for Qatar, and it rejects Qatari, which is the equivalent of American. So people searching on those terms are not going to see my latest images. I doubt if correct scientific binomials for plants and animals will get through, either (e.g Phoenix theophrasti - the Cretan date palm - or Aeshna mixta for the migrant hawker dragonfly). Granted the number of people searching by Linnaean binomials will be minimal, but why prevent accurate descriptions being given?

I've only just tried it a couple of times, but I didn't have a problem with scientific names, etc. You just click on the red word and either select an alternative spelling or confirm that your spelling is correct. It's a little slower than the old click-through used to be, because you have to do it for each word, but I can see the logic of forcing contributors to check their spelling.

From what I read here and on the Shutterstock forums, I was expecting a complete nightmare. It actually was OK - just a touch slower than it used to be.
If like me you always verify the correct spelling of the scientific names before to submit you have just to click on "Mark all keywords as correct" and it is done

« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2017, 05:26 »
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Thanks Chichikov. I didn't notice that option but will check it out next time I upload.

Chichikov

« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2017, 05:35 »
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Thanks Chichikov. I didn't notice that option but will check it out next time I upload.

I Have have noticed it after different uses.
The layout of this page is extremely awful Even my grandson (who is 6 today!) could have done better.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2017, 06:31 by Chichikov »

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2017, 06:00 »
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Agreed. The new page is an absolute turd. Why couldn't they just fix their uploads so files didn't keep going missing or being processed incorrectly.
It's now taking forever to get anything uploaded. How could they think it is a good idea to require scrolling around to enter information? Why copy IStock's terrible esp pages? Huge step backwards.

substancep

  • Medical, science, nature, and macro photography

« Reply #80 on: November 12, 2017, 07:33 »
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I don't like it. The old page worked fine, and all the keywording tools weren't squished to the right of the screen. Having to click on "mark all keywords as correct" adds another useless step to the submission process.

RAW

« Reply #81 on: November 12, 2017, 08:35 »
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I just tried again submitting videos and it was easier. I think they have disabled several of the keywording functions that were causing problems. I always have several keywords that need 'confirming' this time I had non.

« Reply #82 on: November 12, 2017, 09:32 »
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I think I know what the problem is.

It's designed for use with a tablet or phone.

Buyers may use mobile devices, but contributors usually use something bigger, so we can see what we're doing with our images.

No understanding of creative work at all.

« Reply #83 on: November 12, 2017, 09:47 »
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I've just tried it again, and concluded I don't think I like it.

I submitted a couple of times earlier, but only one image batches, and they worked fine. It's horrible for larger batches though, because as soon as you select more that one image to edit, you lose the ability to see either the title, description or number of keywords per image. When it fails to submit, you have to deselect everything then reselect individually to see what the problem is.

Total PITA :(

Shelma1

  • stockcoalition.org
« Reply #84 on: November 12, 2017, 10:22 »
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Just spent what felt like an eternity submitting seven images, which would have taken five minutes before. And this is after I figured out all the hidden stuff, opened a second browser tab, etc.

A serious problem is deleting keywords. Before I could simply select a string of keywords to delete if they weren't quite right for an image. Now I have to deselect all other images, select the image in question, scroll down all the keywords on the right and click on one word at a time to delete it. Takes about 20 times longer.

Kate told us the deal in the SS forums...the IT guys will have an easier time pushing through exciting new changes in the future, so this interface is for their convenience, not ours. Also, it looks pretty for investors. We are very, very low on the food chain.

RAW

« Reply #85 on: November 12, 2017, 10:51 »
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The amount of prime screen space that is just empty white shows no understanding of ergonomics at all.

Shelma1

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« Reply #86 on: November 12, 2017, 12:03 »
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Uploader's broken again. almost nothing getting through. :(

RAW

« Reply #87 on: November 12, 2017, 12:21 »
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I think I know what the problem is.

It's designed for use with a tablet or phone.

Buyers may use mobile devices, but contributors usually use something bigger, so we can see what we're doing with our images.

No understanding of creative work at all.

It's 2017 you can use templates for other devices.

« Reply #88 on: November 12, 2017, 14:10 »
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I don't know if I am on the new editor or not, but all I ever get is

"There was an error uploading the following files:"
every file I try to upload.

It does seem sad that they bust stuff that worked ok and don't fix things that have problems.

« Reply #89 on: November 12, 2017, 17:35 »
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Submitting videos...
Why make something that worked well so bad now?
A cannot use key to jump to the desired category when selecting them, i have to click.
Most labels i way to large.
I have to edit in that narrow column at the edge of the screen, having to scroll just to finish on file. In the past all data of multiple files could fit on the screen at once.
Everything looks like some stupid game for a phone
« Last Edit: November 12, 2017, 17:56 by Desintegrator »

« Reply #90 on: November 12, 2017, 20:36 »
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I just used it for the first time and it was a pretty bad experience. Took me a forever just  to submit 5 images.

They used to have the best editor. Now they have one of the worst I've ever seen. These designers think like engineers instead of designers, trying to use the newest and coolest technology instead of making things simple to use. Whatever they're paying them, they're paying them too much.

I see these kind of design mistakes all the time. They make things look cleaner, but the usability is awful. You have to do 10x the amount of work just to do something that you did previously. That's not design, that's a bad mistake and their teammates are too scared to speak up.


« Last Edit: November 12, 2017, 21:33 by Minsc »

« Reply #91 on: November 12, 2017, 21:34 »
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I've stuck with Shutterstock through all this corporate crap because, in spite of their continuing descent, they have still been my best earning site.

Also, I'll admit to a little nostalgia.  My first site was Shutterstock, back in 2006. 

However, it looks like the diminishing returns will pass the point this year.  If I can't stand to upload, I can't keep fresh stuff in the flow, and earnings will drop further.

At least they're making it easier for me to let go.


« Reply #92 on: November 12, 2017, 23:48 »
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I've tried FTP uploads there again today and it's incredibly slow compared to the last few weeks (one quarter the upload speed).  Anyone experiencing this?

Semmick Photo

« Reply #93 on: November 13, 2017, 06:11 »
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Submitted one photo yesterday to test the waters and had no issues whatsoever, and it all went really quick.

Chichikov

« Reply #94 on: November 13, 2017, 07:25 »
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Submitted one photo yesterday to test the waters and had no issues whatsoever, and it all went really quick.
Yes.
If your images are ready, with correct titles/description and keywords in the IPTC, and if, having more images, they belong to the same category and don't need release, it is very fast, faster than before.
But in other cases it is a real pain.

By the way I don't understand people submitting not ready images and having to edit them in the uploader

« Reply #95 on: November 13, 2017, 07:49 »
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I haven't read all the comments in this thread, but there seems to be a lot of criticism of the new submissions page.

I have to say, I am really impressed with it. IMO, it is a vast improvement on the old one.

I like the way we are able to enter words and place names, if it doesn't recognise them we can mark as correct and they seem to be added to a dictionary.

It no longer questions every single number, such as in a date, so editorial is much easier to upload.

I can think of other sites who could take a lesson from SS.

« Reply #96 on: November 13, 2017, 07:54 »
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Submitted one photo yesterday to test the waters and had no issues whatsoever, and it all went really quick.
Yes.
If your images are ready, with correct titles/description and keywords in the IPTC, and if, having more images, they belong to the same category and don't need release, it is very fast, faster than before.
But in other cases it is a real pain.

By the way I don't understand people submitting not ready images and having to edit them in the uploader

Choosing category is still slower, even if you upload with full IPTC

« Reply #97 on: November 13, 2017, 08:06 »
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Also, I havn't found the way to mark if something is resubmitted

Shelma1

  • stockcoalition.org
« Reply #98 on: November 13, 2017, 08:24 »
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I love it when people upload one photo and say it's easy. Not a vector, not more than one image, no need to do the multi select thing, no need to edit, no need to see whether the system recognized your image as a vector or not, no need to see more than one image at a time, no "incorrect" keywords. Such a breeze!

« Reply #99 on: November 13, 2017, 09:09 »
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I haven't read all the comments in this thread, but there seems to be a lot of criticism of the new submissions page.

I have to say, I am really impressed with it. IMO, it is a vast improvement on the old one.

I like the way we are able to enter words and place names, if it doesn't recognise them we can mark as correct and they seem to be added to a dictionary.

It no longer questions every single number, such as in a date, so editorial is much easier to upload.

I can think of other sites who could take a lesson from SS.

All they had to do for that was to update the dictionary.  There was no need to knacker the whole system. 

Curious:  Do you use a mobile or desktop computer?

I ask because I really think Shutterstock is trying to drive the old timers away.  We make more per sale.  Newbies start at a lower rate.  It's a corporate move other companies have made. 

The combination of re-tooling the site toward mobile devices and advertising under the "gigs" section of Craigslist suggests to me that Shutterstock wants to be the Wal-Mart of stock sites.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have people going around to laundromats pinning hand written ads on the bulletin boards.


 

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