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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2018, 08:58 »
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Thanks.  Im really uninspired to upload my legacy people images because I waste all the time assigning multiple and different releases to all of them and then 75% get rejected even though all the releases have been accepted before.


« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2018, 09:54 »
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^^ what do you expect? at SS its all new management all suits and beancounters. They wouldnt know quality even if it jumped up and knocked them on the eye-lids!!  quality to them is apples and oranges, dogs and babies! :)

« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2018, 10:37 »
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rm agency are struggling much more than rf...don't believe the fool...to earn good money in rm is a miracle.
rf and rm are falling down...soon many agency will close the door believe me. just alamy seems to keep selling something. rm you need a lot of quantity and quality and something customer can't find anywhere. good money are still in rm news editorial agency if you have the right image. commercial rm are falling dwn.

« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2018, 13:17 »
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Go away.

« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2018, 01:00 »
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rm agency are struggling much more than rf...don't believe the fool...to earn good money in rm is a miracle.
rf and rm are falling down...soon many agency will close the door believe me. just alamy seems to keep selling something. rm you need a lot of quantity and quality and something customer can't find anywhere. good money are still in rm news editorial agency if you have the right image. commercial rm are falling dwn.

Either youve been drinking too many beers or the heat have gotten to you!! haha!  among us people that have been doing RM for 20 odd years Alamy is considered the absolute WORST agency of them all!...Alamy is pretty much considered a glorified micro-agency!!.

When you think RM youre thinking of the obvious ones Getty, Stocksy, Alamy etc, etc. Forget these mate, I'm not at all talking about these places just forget those!

haha!  what do you think that these agencies to the right here in the column are the ones???  theyre the ones that wants to be there, wants to be seen so that people like you will join them! ;D ;D ::)

« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2018, 19:57 »
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rm agency are struggling much more than rf...don't believe the fool...to earn good money in rm is a miracle.
rf and rm are falling down...soon many agency will close the door believe me. just alamy seems to keep selling something. rm you need a lot of quantity and quality and something customer can't find anywhere. good money are still in rm news editorial agency if you have the right image. commercial rm are falling dwn.

Either youve been drinking too many beers or the heat have gotten to you!! haha!  among us people that have been doing RM for 20 odd years Alamy is considered the absolute WORST agency of them all!...Alamy is pretty much considered a glorified micro-agency!!.

When you think RM youre thinking of the obvious ones Getty, Stocksy, Alamy etc, etc. Forget these mate, I'm not at all talking about these places just forget those!

haha!  what do you think that these agencies to the right here in the column are the ones???  theyre the ones that wants to be there, wants to be seen so that people like you will join them! ;D ;D ::)


So... what's your favorite RM agency? 

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« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2018, 20:05 »
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rf and rm are falling down...soon many agency will close the door believe me.

What are you basing this on? If you could share the evidence that would be much appreciated. I mean, you're not just basing agency sales on your individual sales... surely?

« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2018, 01:16 »
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rf and rm are falling down...soon many agency will close the door believe me.

What are you basing this on? If you could share the evidence that would be much appreciated. I mean, you're not just basing agency sales on your individual sales... surely?

He doesnt know what he is talking about! hehe! he does go on waffling all around sometimes. I mean when he says Alamy is the ultimate RM place well hoho then you can imagine.
The fact is all the so called old boys here that started micro back in 95,96 you know that ones Im talking about are today concentrating on RM/RF. They might throw in an upload to micro now and then but on the whole they supply their quality to trad-agencies, they prevail micro dont.

The only draw back is that you cant supply the same content to both because of copyrights etc so for quality its either traditional or micro.

« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2018, 05:39 »
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Same here. I am usually in the $800+ per month camp with SS but May was $600, June was $600 and July is $500. This was an overnight kind of thing, so perhaps another search tweak.  I do both video and stills and both are down, which is why I think it might be a search thing.

With the video thing, do you have a lot of 4k videos?

In may they broke (apparently broke not policy according to SS forum support) where if a buyer clicks "HD" in the search menu it excludes ALL 4k videos (which can obviously be downloaded in HD just like all the others) from the search.  Prior to that clicking HD only filtered out videos that weren't at HD or higher.
For me at least my sales are now almost entirely videos which only exist in HD format which is a shame as 3/5 of my catalogue is 4k....

And FWIW for me, July was my worst month for a while although i had a random outlier low the beginning of the year (and a random best month ever in June thanks to some highly unusual SODs).

« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2018, 14:50 »
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Since April SS have nosedived for me. Appallingly diabolical and every consecutive month gets worse. Uploading more work makes absolutely no difference.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2018, 15:36 by Herg »

« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2018, 09:26 »
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Herge!!  here is a tip!   find an old good file that have sold a lot but sort of vanished and dont sell anymore!...delete the file!  wait for at least 7 days and then re-upload the same file with different title, caption and re-arrange the keywords! and then wait..........you will see a miracle within just 10 hours sort of!


« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2018, 05:08 »
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Since April SS have nosedived for me. Appallingly diabolical and every consecutive month gets worse. Uploading more work makes absolutely no difference.

It's collapsed for me, too, with this month's sales down by half on other months this year and big SODs going extinct. SS was the last agency delivering a decent return for me and now that seems to be over. I've sold something like 400,000 licences over the last 14 years (on all agencies) so I used to be a fairly significant player but yesterday nothing on SS for the third time this year.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2018, 05:32 by BaldricksTrousers »

« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2018, 20:16 »
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Same here. I am usually in the $800+ per month camp with SS but May was $600, June was $600 and July is $500. This was an overnight kind of thing, so perhaps another search tweak.  I do both video and stills and both are down, which is why I think it might be a search thing.

With the video thing, do you have a lot of 4k videos?

In may they broke (apparently broke not policy according to SS forum support) where if a buyer clicks "HD" in the search menu it excludes ALL 4k videos (which can obviously be downloaded in HD just like all the others) from the search.  Prior to that clicking HD only filtered out videos that weren't at HD or higher.
For me at least my sales are now almost entirely videos which only exist in HD format which is a shame as 3/5 of my catalogue is 4k....

And FWIW for me, July was my worst month for a while although i had a random outlier low the beginning of the year (and a random best month ever in June thanks to some highly unusual SODs).
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At SS you have to upload both hd and 4k separately. They have never built a system that downsizes for you. So i do upload both sizes.

« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2018, 00:53 »
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Since April SS have nosedived for me. Appallingly diabolical and every consecutive month gets worse. Uploading more work makes absolutely no difference.

It's collapsed for me, too, with this month's sales down by half on other months this year and big SODs going extinct. SS was the last agency delivering a decent return for me and now that seems to be over. I've sold something like 400,000 licences over the last 14 years (on all agencies) so I used to be a fairly significant player but yesterday nothing on SS for the third time this year.

Thats because we belong to that group that joined early and took upp all the space and all the sales and with gazillions of new members we had to sort of " give way" to new members to get a fair chance of selling as time went by they are selling but we are still stuck in that category of " has beens" hehe!.....I spoke to another dear friend of ours. extremely eloquent (you know who it is), he stopped uploading over a year back and his content was truly unique, nothing like it, few months back he even removed his portfolio!

New files dont seem to sell either so any uploading is just a total waste of time they will never see the light of day!  although I'm sure there are other groups of members where new files do sell frequently and like they used to.

« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2018, 10:32 »
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Since April SS have nosedived for me. Appallingly diabolical and every consecutive month gets worse. Uploading more work makes absolutely no difference.

You've been writing the same for 8 years now, how can anything keep getting worse for so long.

« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2018, 12:10 »
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Since April SS have nosedived for me. Appallingly diabolical and every consecutive month gets worse. Uploading more work makes absolutely no difference.

You've been writing the same for 8 years now, how can anything keep getting worse for so long.
Well I suppose it can but the rational response would be to go and do something else that made you more happy or more money or maybe both.

« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2018, 13:04 »
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Since April SS have nosedived for me. Appallingly diabolical and every consecutive month gets worse. Uploading more work makes absolutely no difference.

You've been writing the same for 8 years now, how can anything keep getting worse for so long.

8 years?? youre kidding, really?  up to just 2 years back i was earning a small fortune at SS. You must be thinking of somebody else, maybe " shooterguy"  or " Gostwyck".


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« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2018, 14:09 »
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Since April SS have nosedived for me. Appallingly diabolical and every consecutive month gets worse. Uploading more work makes absolutely no difference.

You've been writing the same for 8 years now, how can anything keep getting worse for so long.
8 years?? youre kidding, really?  up to just 2 years back i was earning a small fortune at SS. You must be thinking of somebody else, maybe " shooterguy"  or " Gostwyck".
Everything isn't about you - just look at the threading you quoted.

« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2018, 16:09 »
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Since April SS have nosedived for me. Appallingly diabolical and every consecutive month gets worse. Uploading more work makes absolutely no difference.

You've been writing the same for 8 years now, how can anything keep getting worse for so long.
8 years?? youre kidding, really?  up to just 2 years back i was earning a small fortune at SS. You must be thinking of somebody else, maybe " shooterguy"  or " Gostwyck".
Everything isn't about you - just look at the threading you quoted.
More evidence of my "Trump" of microstock theory ;-).

« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2018, 17:06 »
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Thanks.  Im really uninspired to upload my legacy people images because I waste all the time assigning multiple and different releases to all of them and then 75% get rejected even though all the releases have been accepted before.

Oh...I thought I was doing something wrong?? One week the first batch is accepted, next week more from the batch is rejected because they dont like the release.

« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2018, 02:00 »
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Since April SS have nosedived for me. Appallingly diabolical and every consecutive month gets worse. Uploading more work makes absolutely no difference.

It's collapsed for me, too, with this month's sales down by half on other months this year and big SODs going extinct. SS was the last agency delivering a decent return for me and now that seems to be over. I've sold something like 400,000 licences over the last 14 years (on all agencies) so I used to be a fairly significant player but yesterday nothing on SS for the third time this year.

Thats because we belong to that group that joined early and took upp all the space and all the sales and with gazillions of new members we had to sort of " give way" to new members to get a fair chance of selling as time went by they are selling but we are still stuck in that category of " has beens" hehe!.....I spoke to another dear friend of ours. extremely eloquent (you know who it is), he stopped uploading over a year back and his content was truly unique, nothing like it, few months back he even removed his portfolio!

New files dont seem to sell either so any uploading is just a total waste of time they will never see the light of day!  although I'm sure there are other groups of members where new files do sell frequently and like they used to.

Yeah, I know all about the dilution effect (I've felt it like everyone else) but now I'm looking at a 60% decline in sales compared with my previous worst month of the last decade (which was June). It's down more than 90% from my hey-day, but during the long slide I've never experienced such a massive percentage drop from one month to the next.

« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2018, 02:31 »
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Since April SS have nosedived for me. Appallingly diabolical and every consecutive month gets worse. Uploading more work makes absolutely no difference.

You've been writing the same for 8 years now, how can anything keep getting worse for so long.
8 years?? youre kidding, really?  up to just 2 years back i was earning a small fortune at SS. You must be thinking of somebody else, maybe " shooterguy"  or " Gostwyck".
Everything isn't about you - just look at the threading you quoted.

Ooops!  youre right,  wrong thread my mistake!

« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2018, 02:42 »
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Since April SS have nosedived for me. Appallingly diabolical and every consecutive month gets worse. Uploading more work makes absolutely no difference.

It's collapsed for me, too, with this month's sales down by half on other months this year and big SODs going extinct. SS was the last agency delivering a decent return for me and now that seems to be over. I've sold something like 400,000 licences over the last 14 years (on all agencies) so I used to be a fairly significant player but yesterday nothing on SS for the third time this year.

Thats because we belong to that group that joined early and took upp all the space and all the sales and with gazillions of new members we had to sort of " give way" to new members to get a fair chance of selling as time went by they are selling but we are still stuck in that category of " has beens" hehe!.....I spoke to another dear friend of ours. extremely eloquent (you know who it is), he stopped uploading over a year back and his content was truly unique, nothing like it, few months back he even removed his portfolio!

New files dont seem to sell either so any uploading is just a total waste of time they will never see the light of day!  although I'm sure there are other groups of members where new files do sell frequently and like they used to.

Yeah, I know all about the dilution effect (I've felt it like everyone else) but now I'm looking at a 60% decline in sales compared with my previous worst month of the last decade (which was June). It's down more than 90% from my hey-day, but during the long slide I've never experienced such a massive percentage drop from one month to the next.


Its exactly the same for all of us in that brackett!  I spoke to four long time pals of ours yesterday after this thread, all of us started 12-14 years back etc, etc, and ALL are seeing the exact same decline, between 50-80%,  cut off from SOD's and so forth!...the pattern is identically scary. In my case just towards the end of the month I get these single-sales between 50-90 dollars about 3,4 of them as a sort of " pat on the back" thingy but it dont remotely come close to what I once clocked in!....one theory I heard was that being a member of Offset would have an effect??  but that doesnt hold at all since portfolios at SS and Offset are lightyears different!...I dont know mate!  its strange thats all!

« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2018, 04:31 »
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Well, we were all saying 10 or 12 years ago that it couldn't last forever. It's had a longer run than I expected so I really can't complain. if I want to make money I'll just have to use the skills and resources I've acquired over the years in another direction.

« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2018, 05:31 »
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Well, we were all saying 10 or 12 years ago that it couldn't last forever. It's had a longer run than I expected so I really can't complain. if I want to make money I'll just have to use the skills and resources I've acquired over the years in another direction.

Thats right we did! we've had a great run really. With your port I would go for one of the trad agencies, the smaller boutique agencies. Not much left in micro I'm afraid. :)


 

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