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« on: August 07, 2008, 03:23 »
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anyone experiencing this ? a few months back ,new photos will have downloads at least up to 1 week. it seems to get worse and worse and worse. these days, newly uploaded photo will probaly have only 1 day sales. then it'll just dies off. some new photo don't even have downloads at all. i have to keep pumping a lot of photos weekly to maintain my sales.  man, i miss those days where anything uploaded to SS will have downloads.  :'(


« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2008, 06:58 »
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Yes, I noticed that also. But this is my first summer at stock and I hope it's just summer slowdown. Maybe I will save my new photos, and upload it in some better time of year, when I will get some decent download number after upload.

« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2008, 07:27 »
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I have a dramatic slump at SS these days. First week of August, and SS is in second place behind DT. That's the first time any other agency has even been close to SS earnings for a whole week (except ELs), but if the trend continues, I will consider stop uploading to SS.

The pricing at DT and IS shows that it's possible to sell microstock images for more, and although SS has just implemented their On Demand system, the maximum earnings per DL there is well below that of the other two.

lisafx

« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2008, 07:43 »
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My sales numbers there are about as usual, but selling more older photos than before. 

I don't know for sure but I read that their search engine had changed to not favor newer photos quite as much.

« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2008, 07:55 »
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I had a record July there, almost double that of June's numbers. August seems to have slowed a little. But like Lisa, recently have noticed increased sales on older images.

« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2008, 08:12 »
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My sales numbers there are about as usual, but selling more older photos than before. 

I don't know for sure but I read that their search engine had changed to not favor newer photos quite as much.

Can you elaborate?  I too have noticed new images being ignored - I assumed that since I've been trying more actively to add volume that the quality was deteriorating!  LOL!

« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2008, 08:37 »
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their On Demand system, the maximum earnings per DL there is well below that of the other two.

i hope there will be miracle   ::)



My sales numbers there are about as usual, but selling more older photos than before. 

I don't know for sure but I read that their search engine had changed to not favor newer photos quite as much.

good for you. some of my new photos that appear in top 30 searches is only getting 5 downloads per day, 3 per day,
2 per day, and then just dies off. my old photos are just selling normal. if i don't upload new photos , my old photos does not sell

life goes on

lisafx

« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2008, 08:37 »
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Can you elaborate?  I too have noticed new images being ignored - I assumed that since I've been trying more actively to add volume that the quality was deteriorating!  LOL!

Can't find where I read about the search engine changes.  One of the threads here, but brief search did not turn it up. 

It wasn't official word, but observations from contributors who keep on top of things more than I do.  (I stopped doing sample searches years ago - too depressing to see where my stuff winds up).  Since their observations match my own recent experience, I will assume there's some truth to them. 

I think you can safely assume your quality isn't deteriorating :)

« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2008, 08:52 »
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Can you elaborate?  I too have noticed new images being ignored - I assumed that since I've been trying more actively to add volume that the quality was deteriorating!  LOL!

Can't find where I read about the search engine changes.  One of the threads here, but brief search did not turn it up. 

It wasn't official word, but observations from contributors who keep on top of things more than I do.  (I stopped doing sample searches years ago - too depressing to see where my stuff winds up).  Since their observations match my own recent experience, I will assume there's some truth to them. 

I think you can safely assume your quality isn't deteriorating :)

LOL - thanks!

« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2008, 10:35 »
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Yep...I've noticed new images aren't selling like they used to, and my August numbers so far are half of July's.  Not good.  Hopefully the On Demand subscriptions start helping make up these drops in sales.

« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2008, 11:22 »
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I think part of the problem is where new images end up in the search on the first day. If you start off on page 3 there is a good chance the image will get buried in week. If you get 10-20 downloads on the first day, there is a much greater chance of longevity.

Then again, if its a really good image its possible to come back from the abyss. If the image is just average, its almost always doomed  if it gets bad positioning on the first day. So, with more and more content being added daily it gets tougher to get positioning. This is just what I've observed watching my own port.

« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2008, 11:46 »
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I've noticed the same thing. 

And I've also noticed that frequently batches that are uploaded after mine are reviewed before mine, so if I have a photo that is a common subject, like martinis, it is instantly buried before it even has a chance to be seen.  That really irritates me.

« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 13:33 »
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Lisa,

I think where you saw this was over in thread " Have you all seen this - SS On Demand" as posted by Leaf.


Can you elaborate?  I too have noticed new images being ignored - I assumed that since I've been trying more actively to add volume that the quality was deteriorating!  LOL!

Can't find where I read about the search engine changes.  One of the threads here, but brief search did not turn it up. 

It wasn't official word, but observations from contributors who keep on top of things more than I do.  (I stopped doing sample searches years ago - too depressing to see where my stuff winds up).  Since their observations match my own recent experience, I will assume there's some truth to them. 

I think you can safely assume your quality isn't deteriorating :)
« Last Edit: August 07, 2008, 13:38 by takestock »

lisafx

« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2008, 13:43 »
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Lisa,

I think where you saw this was over in thread " Have you all seen this - SS On Demand" as posted by Leaf.


Thanks a lot for solving that mystery for me!

I read so much stuff about this industry that I forget where I saw what.  Probably a sign I should get of the computer and go shoot some pics ;)

« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2008, 18:04 »
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I've had weekends that are better than anyday for the last week (week before wasn't good either). IS made more yesterday than SS has made this week. So SS is now sitting a miserable 4th!!! for the month.

« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2008, 18:07 »
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Last 5 days my portfolio and new sales have dropped to single figures. Quite frightening.

« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2008, 18:34 »
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Last 5 days my portfolio and new sales have dropped to single figures. Quite frightening.

If your portfolio dropped to single digits no wonder the sales dropped to those frighting single digits. What made a hole in your portfolio? :)


« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2008, 18:46 »
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i meant sales dropped to single digits.

« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2008, 18:59 »
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that happened to me when I did not upload for almost 2 months.  I am trying to figure out a minimum frequency of uploads that would keep the sales at the same level. So far I see that I need to upload at least twice a week for that. I do that in last 3 weeks and the sales are ok.



« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2008, 23:04 »
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I've been uploading 3-5 days per week the last 2-3 months. Still, my sales are dropping at SS compared to almost all other agencies. Either their sales are falling, or they've done something with their search engine that disfavors my images.

« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2008, 03:51 »
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Definitely, sales are much lower than before for new images, but little higher than before for my old images. Generally, subscription sales are dropped. But, I had first on demand sale today, for 1,88$. :)  It's like I sold 7,5 images by subscription. :)

« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2008, 04:15 »
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Either their sales are falling

possibly. there are much more photo contributors than before. same size of cake, less share  ;D

« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2008, 06:51 »
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Lots of dl.s in Friday, weekend weak ,today till now ZERO!

« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2008, 07:12 »
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I had a suprisingly good Sunday yesterday.
Not complaining!

« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2008, 07:23 »
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I had worst weekend ever. Saturday 2 sales! (almost 4000 images online).

helix7

« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2008, 07:32 »
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I used to get close to 200 DLs some days. Now I can't even break 100. Sales are cut in half lately for me.


« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2008, 13:58 »
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Either their sales are falling

possibly. there are much more photo contributors than before. same size of cake, less share  ;D

Problem is, the other agencies are increasing, and SS' share is sinking dramatically.


« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2008, 14:05 »
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Yes! more contributors = more images - more competition and unfortunately and probably less sales for individuals.

I suppose the best we can do is strive for quality and hope that a good pic will continue to sell.

« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2008, 14:41 »
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we should avoid subs as much as possible. In that sense it may be not a bad thing that SS is not performing as well as before. Image price are going up. Subs can destroy that. It is up to us. Images are ours. Do not expect gifts or fair play from
resellers of our images.

CofkoCof

« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2008, 05:51 »
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I used to get close to 200 DLs some days. Now I can't even break 100. Sales are cut in half lately for me.


Same for me (well expect the numbers are smaller :D). For me the problem is that I didn't upload for a while, just sent a few new files this week.

I noticed that I get very few sales in the morning and early afternoon (looks like whole Europe is on vacations). It gets better later in the day.

« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2008, 06:47 »
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Quote

I noticed that I get very few sales in the morning and early afternoon (looks like whole Europe is on vacations). It gets better later in the day.

Yes, Europe is on holidays. This week, for example, almost all industries close in Italy and they all go to the beach. 'They', cause I don't live in Italy anymore, I moved to sunny UK (ahahah sunny... global warming my a..).

« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2008, 19:03 »
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This is getting ridiculous.

I uploaded a batch on Friday, which wasn't reviewed until late Monday, and here it is late Wednesday and some images STILL aren't showing up in searches.  Meanwhile, other newer images are showing up just fine.  Some of the images not showing up will already be on page two when they do finally show in the search. 

I'm also beginning to wonder if the new smaller subscriptions are going to have a negative impact on overall sales as buyers wait to purchase images.

« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2008, 17:09 »
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I'm also beginning to wonder if the new smaller subscriptions are going to have a negative impact on overall sales as buyers wait to purchase images.

Of course they are. It will attract smaller buyers who used to buy individual photos to buy subs, leaving us with less pay per photo, but the agencies, on this case SS, with more.


 

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