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What is your RPI for the month of September 2014 at Shutterstock?  (Total income from photos divided by number of photos online)

0-.15
52 (27.4%)
.16-.25
27 (14.2%)
.26-.40
34 (17.9%)
.41-.55
13 (6.8%)
.56-.70
17 (8.9%)
.71-.85
11 (5.8%)
.85-.99
6 (3.2%)
1-1.50
10 (5.3%)
1.51-3.00
8 (4.2%)
3.01-4.00+
7 (3.7%)
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5 (2.6%)

Total Members Voted: 175

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« on: October 06, 2014, 09:30 »
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RPI in terms of USD.  We know the average RPI at Shutterstock is about 28 cents for all file types but I haven't seen any recent polls on this for photographers.

RPI means total income from photos divided by total number of photos online.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2014, 10:30 by tickstock »


ShadySue

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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2014, 09:35 »
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RPI in terms of USD.  We know the average RPI at Shutterstock is about 28 cents for all file types but I haven't seen any recent polls on this for photographers and illustrators.
This sort of poll is only even slightly useful if we know the media and critically for SS, whether images are opted in for sensitive use or not, since it's all in or all out. All out, to protect models, means the biggest value sales (even if not actually 'sensitive') are unavailable.

« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2014, 09:40 »
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RPI in terms of USD.  We know the average RPI at Shutterstock is about 28 cents for all file types but I haven't seen any recent polls on this for photographers and illustrators.
This sort of poll is only even slightly useful if we know the media and critically for SS, whether images are opted in for sensitive use or not, since it's all in or all out. All out, to protect models, means the biggest value sales (even if not actually 'sensitive') are unavailable.
Ok, changed to just photographers.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2014, 09:44 by tickstock »

w7lwi

  • Those that don't stand up to evil enable evil.
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2014, 11:04 »
+1
Just voted ... RPI $0.71.  Photos only and all in for sensitive use

« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2014, 11:36 »
+1
I also think you need to clarify the parameters for calculating RPI - My guess is you are going to get people using different methods (and some actually reporting RPD).

« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2014, 11:38 »
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RPI in terms of USD.  We know the average RPI at Shutterstock is about 28 cents for all file types but I haven't seen any recent polls on this for photographers and illustrators.
This sort of poll is only even slightly useful if we know the media and critically for SS, whether images are opted in for sensitive use or not, since it's all in or all out. All out, to protect models, means the biggest value sales (even if not actually 'sensitive') are unavailable.

You ask for RPI, (income/all images on SS) but do you really mean RPD (income/# of downloads)?

« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2014, 11:40 »
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I also think you need to clarify the parameters for calculating RPI - My guess is you are going to get people using different methods (and some actually reporting RPD).
I think it should be easy for people to figure out, I'll add to the OP though.  Total photo income for September divided by total photos online.  Hopefully people won't enter their RPD which is total income divided by downloads.

« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2014, 11:42 »
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RPI in terms of USD.  We know the average RPI at Shutterstock is about 28 cents for all file types but I haven't seen any recent polls on this for photographers and illustrators.
This sort of poll is only even slightly useful if we know the media and critically for SS, whether images are opted in for sensitive use or not, since it's all in or all out. All out, to protect models, means the biggest value sales (even if not actually 'sensitive') are unavailable.

You ask for RPI, (income/all images on SS) but do you really mean RPD (income/# of downloads)?
No, I mean RPI.  NOT RPD.

Mark Windom Photography

« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2014, 11:46 »
0
Just curious why you want to know....thinking of jumping ship? Or just curious?

« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2014, 11:56 »
+2
Just curious why you want to know....thinking of jumping ship? Or just curious?
I think having more, good information is always helpful for everyone.

« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2014, 12:07 »
0
What about videos? Do you mean revenue per FILE or strictly per image?
For my purposes I calculate them together, I can't be bothered to deduct video sales.

Also, as I wrote in another thread an exclusive jumping ship should not expect the same results as people who have been slowly feeding the beast and achieved high positions in Most Popular sorts. The reasons are: competing with your own files and it is much more difficult to reach the first page when over 300.000 files are being added every week.

EDIT: I see now that you mean photos only, so I'll pass.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2014, 12:10 by Realist »

« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2014, 12:10 »
+1
What about videos? Do you mean revenue per FILE or strictly per image?
For my purposes I calculate them together, I can't be bothered to deduct video sales.

Also, as I wrote in another thread an exclusive jumping ship should not expect the same results as people who have been slowly feeding the beast and achieved high positions in Most Popular sorts. The reasons are: competing with your own files and it is much more difficult to reach the first page when over 300.000 files are being added every week.
Video sales are listed separately in your sales data so it shouldn't be too much work to figure out what your photo sales are.  I think a poll about video would probably have different results so it's probably better to keep them apart.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2014, 12:12 »
0
About the same, but I have no model released photos and roughly half mine are Editorial. Plus there's some dead wood that I could cut and burn and my RPI would go up. I'm talking about things from 2007 that have no sales, and probably never will. Plus the standards have gone up along with the quality.

RPI is only a good measure for individuals. Otherwise we all have different content and it shouldn't be compared.

I think our buddy Tick needs to come and smell the roses and find out for himself.  ;D

Just voted ... RPI $0.71.  Photos only and all in for sensitive use

Shelma1

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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2014, 12:46 »
+4
Am I the only one who read that as "R.I.P.? I thought it was a statement about the recent pricing changes at iStock.

« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2014, 14:29 »
+4
There's something seriously wrong with the results when nearly 50% of voters are claiming more than 40c per image/month ... which itself is nearly 50% higher than Shutterstock's declared average.

Even Sean said he's only generating about 60c per image/month (in a previous thread) so we must have some absolute stock geniuses voting in the poll.

U11


« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2014, 14:34 »
+4
There's something seriously wrong with the results
If  "View results" would bring results without voting we may get better results but much less votes  ::)

« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2014, 16:30 »
0
An interesting spread of results and not one I'd personally base any long-term decisions on. You'd have to calculate for too many variables e.g. contributor commission levels or ports which have a high proportion of EL and large SOD sales, elevating them way above the 28c "average".

It would be good to see how this looks with a 100 or more responses.


edit: I believe the average claimed elsewhere was 28c
« Last Edit: October 06, 2014, 16:33 by Red Dove »


« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2014, 18:44 »
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There's something seriously wrong with the results when nearly 50% of voters are claiming more than 40c per image/month ... which itself is nearly 50% higher than Shutterstock's declared average.

Even Sean said he's only generating about 60c per image/month (in a previous thread) so we must have some absolute stock geniuses voting in the poll.

My case I hit the wrong button by mistake and could not change the vote.  I made around .29  but voted the next one up on accident.

« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2014, 18:51 »
0
54 cents. Last month was kinda crappy until the last week.

« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2014, 20:27 »
+2
There's something seriously wrong with the results when nearly 50% of voters are claiming more than 40c per image/month ... which itself is nearly 50% higher than Shutterstock's declared average.

Even Sean said he's only generating about 60c per image/month (in a previous thread) so we must have some absolute stock geniuses voting in the poll.
It does seem a bit unlikely that these numbers are true.  People like Sean and Rob make many times more than the average contributor here with an average number of images yet they have RPIs lower than 30 or 40% of the respondents?  It's not adding up.

« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2014, 20:36 »
+7
My BME was probably close to 70 cents. I'm not sure how many images I had online at the time. I'm basing that on 100 fewer images or so in my port. My normal month is probably closer to 60 cents. I really don't pay much attention to RPI. I could delete 1,000 nonsellers and then my RPI would go way up. And I do have at least 1,000 nonsellers, if not more. I keep them because they might pop up with an EL or something, and I don't even remember I made the image.

« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2014, 22:28 »
+1
My BME was probably close to 70 cents. I'm not sure how many images I had online at the time. I'm basing that on 100 fewer images or so in my port. My normal month is probably closer to 60 cents. I really don't pay much attention to RPI. I could delete 1,000 nonsellers and then my RPI would go way up. And I do have at least 1,000 nonsellers, if not more. I keep them because they might pop up with an EL or something, and I don't even remember I made the image.
+1
Half of my portfolio are waiting for the ELs to pop up, serve for no other purposes... ;D

« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2014, 00:21 »
+3
54 cents. Last month was kinda crappy until the last week.

You're telling me that last month your portfolio of 2157 images actually generated $1165 at SS alone? Really? And that was "kinda crappy"?

« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2014, 02:32 »
+1
The poll is for the month of September 2014!

Im no "stock genius" but in September my RPI was > 40c. And that wasnt even the highest RPI/month this year. August was much lower though but as a matter of fact I only had 3 months this year with an RPI lower than the supposed average of 28c.

There's something seriously wrong with the results when nearly 50% of voters are claiming more than 40c per image/month ... which itself is nearly 50% higher than Shutterstock's declared average.

Even Sean said he's only generating about 60c per image/month (in a previous thread) so we must have some absolute stock geniuses voting in the poll.
It does seem a bit unlikely that these numbers are true.  People like Sean and Rob make many times more than the average contributor here with an average number of images yet they have RPIs lower than 30 or 40% of the respondents?  It's not adding up.

« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2014, 03:21 »
0
Calculated my SS photo RPI for September and submitted a vote, most interesting thing is that it 6.8 times higher than my IS RPI for August- couldn't directly compare Sept as PP sales not in yet.


 

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