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Title: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: Blammo on September 28, 2011, 14:25
Ok copying urls is not working for me  :)

Well check out the shutterbuzz

Thx gostwyck
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: gostwyck on September 28, 2011, 14:34
Ok copying urls is not working for me  :)

Well check out the shutterbuzz


http://buzz.shutterstock.com/updated-royalty-schedule (http://buzz.shutterstock.com/updated-royalty-schedule)
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: SNP on September 28, 2011, 14:36
interesting, fairly low royalties though
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Post by: gostwyck on September 28, 2011, 14:42
interesting, fairly low royalties though

Much, much better than Istock though.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: sharpshot on September 28, 2011, 14:43
I get 17% with istock and 30% with SS.  I would prefer 50% but SS are selling lots and it's much better than their main competitor.  I hope this works, I'm sure lots of people would want this option.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on September 28, 2011, 14:44
interesting, fairly low royalties though

Low by what yardstick? The lowest amount there for a newbie is the "Yuri rate" at iStock...
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: rubyroo on September 28, 2011, 14:46
Sounds good to me.  No complaints about another revenue stream added by my top earner.  I hope it takes off hugely :)

I'm a bit confused as to where this leaves BigStock though.  I thought that was their individual sales avenue.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: SNP on September 28, 2011, 14:48
I'm looking at it from the point of view of exclusives who might see this as an opportunity, compared to exclusive royalties at iStock, it would still be a big hit to go non-exclusive....not comparing to independent.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: Pixart on September 28, 2011, 14:49
Can anyone point me to their sizes?  The refer to high resolution and small and medium (on buyers side), but I can't find their definition.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: rimglow on September 28, 2011, 14:49
"For the first time, we’re offering customers in certain markets the option to purchase one Shutterstock image download at a time."

I would like to know what "certain markets" they mean. I hope that includes me. I would love to have access to that huge library without having to buy a package!
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Post by: Pixart on September 28, 2011, 14:50
Poor Fotolia.  If they were feeling desperate this morning, just imagine how they feel now...
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: lisafx on September 28, 2011, 14:51
Royalties look very competitive to me.  The graduated scale gives incentive.  30% as the high end seems reasonable.  Sure, it could always be more, but beats my 19% from Istock...

Hope this is a big success for SS and contributors :)
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Post by: Pixart on September 28, 2011, 14:51
"For the first time, we’re offering customers in certain markets the option to purchase one Shutterstock image download at a time."

I would like to know what "certain markets" they mean. I hope that includes me. I would love to have access to that huge library without having to buy a package!

If you go to shutterstock.com you will see the option on the front right... 1 high res $19.
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Post by: luissantos84 on September 28, 2011, 14:59
do you remember any cut from SS since they started? I know they had a raise from 20 to 25cents right?

the more agencies cut the more they will be punished, donīt understand how can they keep on playing that way..
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: flashon on September 28, 2011, 15:02
do you remember any cut from SS since they started? I know they had a raise from 20 to 25cents right?

the more agencies cut the more they will be punished, donīt understand how can they keep on playing that way..

+ 1
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on September 28, 2011, 15:04
looks good!
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Post by: rimglow on September 28, 2011, 15:06
"For the first time, we’re offering customers in certain markets the option to purchase one Shutterstock image download at a time."

I would like to know what "certain markets" they mean. I hope that includes me. I would love to have access to that huge library without having to buy a package!


If you go to shutterstock.com you will see the option on the front right... 1 high res $19.


I don't see it.

(http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz187/rimglow/12.jpg)
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Post by: gostwyck on September 28, 2011, 15:13
Poor Fotolia.  If they were feeling desperate this morning, just imagine how they feel now...

Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.
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Post by: Maui on September 28, 2011, 16:03
"For the first time, we’re offering customers in certain markets the option to purchase one Shutterstock image download at a time."

I would like to know what "certain markets" they mean. I hope that includes me. I would love to have access to that huge library without having to buy a package!

If you go to shutterstock.com you will see the option on the front right... 1 high res $19.

Not available in Europe, it seems. Or at least not in my area of Europe... Still interesting though.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: Smithore on September 28, 2011, 17:14
Ah AH Ah!!!
Very funny!!! Shutterstock was the only agency to start with subscriptions, and now, when all the other agencies have subscription and are cutting contributors earnings, SS start a single sale with 30% commission!!! I can only congrats them, FT and IS are really tricked !
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: Perry on September 28, 2011, 17:18
is this the IS/DT/FT killer? I have high hopes for this one, I hope though they don't screw up the pricing.

The Royalties could be better, but 30% is MUCH more than 17% I get at IS
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Post by: Allsa on September 28, 2011, 17:20
While things continue to get worse at FT & IS, they just keep improving at Shutterstock! Thank you Shutterstock!!
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Post by: rubyroo on September 28, 2011, 17:30
Isn't it great to know that, if you just wait long enough... something good turns up.

Hot on the heels of a big upswing at 123RF.... ooh, I've come over all... optimistic :)
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: RT on September 28, 2011, 17:46
The Royalties could be better, but 30% is MUCH more than 17% I get at IS

Percentages mean nothing, what you should be looking at is the actual $ amount you receive on a like for like basis, as happy as I am that Shutterstock are offering this, for the same size image download I personally would still get more in commission at iS for the same size image download than I would under this new SS scheme. Obviously it's going to be different on a per contributor basis.

Too many people on this forum fall into the naive "percentages" trap, you're licensing your images on these agencies for a financial return.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: Perry on September 28, 2011, 17:50
RT, I'm sure some agency soon discovers a way to sell images for $1000 a pop. And then they could give 1% = $10 to you and you would be happy because "it's more than I get at IS" and not at all bothered that you have financed the CEO's new Mercedes?

I think there is some levels of royalty percentage that is considered "fair". In traditional stock (in Ye Olde Slide times) 50/50 split was considered fair. Nowdays at micros seems that 30% is "fair". 17% is crap.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: gostwyck on September 28, 2011, 18:23
The Royalties could be better, but 30% is MUCH more than 17% I get at IS

Percentages mean nothing, what you should be looking at is the actual $ amount you receive on a like for like basis, as happy as I am that Shutterstock are offering this, for the same size image download I personally would still get more in commission at iS for the same size image download than I would under this new SS scheme. Obviously it's going to be different on a per contributor basis.

Too many people on this forum fall into the naive "percentages" trap, you're licensing your images on these agencies for a financial return.

Isn't portfolio-income-per-month the only real measure? 'Like for like' does not take account of volume. Too many people fall into the naive "like for like" trap.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: cthoman on September 28, 2011, 18:38
interesting, fairly low royalties though

Yeah, it could be better. 40-50% would have been nice. Hopefully, they can increase it in the future. It is good to see them offering individual sales though. The On Demand part of SS seems to be the biggest growth part, so this seems like the next logical step.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: borg on September 29, 2011, 01:37
I can't see prices of images for this offer....?
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: Anita Potter on September 29, 2011, 02:37
Here's an image of what it's supposed to look like on the homepage.

The price for a single image download is $19.

This is the tier and based on your all time revenue:

<$500 - 20% - $3.80
$500-$3000 - 25% - $4.75
$3000-$10,000 - 28% - $5.32
>$10,000 - 30% - $5.70

From what I understand is that they're just testing the waters to see how it goes.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on September 29, 2011, 02:57
The Royalties could be better, but 30% is MUCH more than 17% I get at IS

Percentages mean nothing, what you should be looking at is the actual $ amount you receive on a like for like basis, as happy as I am that Shutterstock are offering this, for the same size image download I personally would still get more in commission at iS for the same size image download than I would under this new SS scheme. Obviously it's going to be different on a per contributor basis.


I'm not sure how you work that out. It is almost $4 per sale minimum for SS, I seem to get between 8c and about $3.20 on iStock, averaging something like $1.50. $4 looks bigger to me.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: RT on September 29, 2011, 03:36
RT, I'm sure some agency soon discovers a way to sell images for $1000 a pop. And then they could give 1% = $10 to you and you would be happy because "it's more than I get at IS" and not at all bothered that you have financed the CEO's new Mercedes?

Well now you're being silly but in answer to your question yes and no - No if it's to fund the Mercedes. Yes if they spent over $900 of that commission in marketing every picture buyer in the world.
But on the same note I presume you'd be happy getting 50% commission on a site that sells your images at 5c each?

Isn't portfolio-income-per-month the only real measure? 'Like for like' does not take account of volume. Too many people fall into the naive "like for like" trap.

I was comparing SS and iS both of which have the volume, therefore I took that "as read", but given a choice I'd take the volume of sales I get on SS each day with the commission rates I get at iS.

I'm not sure how you work that out. It is almost $4 per sale minimum for SS, I seem to get between 8c and about $3.20 on iStock, averaging something like $1.50. $4 looks bigger to me.

You've made the mistake of taking all image sizes into account for your 8c - $3.20 (although that's strange because I get $4.80-$5.20 for an XL on iS). This new scheme at SS is for 'high-res' images,by which I presume they mean at least XL, if it's XXL they it's even less. Oh and by the figures they've shown so far if a buyer takes up the 25 for $229 deal then your 30% commission equates to $2.75. (Edited to add - for many it will be less than $2.75 because it's a sliding scale from 20%-30% based on lifetime earnings.)


People have and will 'wooyay' about this latest deal from Shutterstock, no doubt the same people will be moaning like hell when iStock drop our commissions even further to match it. I don't pay my bills with percentages I pay them with money, and the actual monetary figure is the only thing that interests me.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: rubyroo on September 29, 2011, 06:02
A request to Shutterstock (if others share my opinion):

Could the single download entries move upwards and switch places with 'Images Printed on a Backup CD' section on our daily downloads page?

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't get 'backup CD' sales any more - and I'm anxious to view any SD sales without having to scroll so far.  It's a bit like looking for 'buried treasure' at the mo.  ;)
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: fujiko on September 29, 2011, 07:30
People have and will 'wooyay' about this latest deal from Shutterstock, no doubt the same people will be moaning like hell when iStock drop our commissions even further to match it. I don't pay my bills with percentages I pay them with money, and the actual monetary figure is the only thing that interests me.

drop to match?
istock has to increase royalties to match this shutterstock deal
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: helix7 on September 29, 2011, 07:49
interesting, fairly low royalties though

Nearly double the rate istock is giving me.
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: YadaYadaYada on September 29, 2011, 21:02
While things continue to get worse at FT & IS, they just keep improving at Shutterstock! Thank you Shutterstock!!

++++++++++
Title: Re: Shutterstock's New Single Image Product: Higher Payout per Download | Shutterbuz
Post by: HughStoneIan on September 29, 2011, 23:58
FT seem to be severely lacking in the business-brains department. When IS, or rather Getty, began to pull their slick moves with the royalty decreases, etc, especially lately, it really created quite a backlash. Many contributors have quit contributing, and quite a few exclusives are no longer so. Then, lo and behold, sales start to go up at other agencies, especially SS. What a coincidence! Even 123RF is doing better these days (wow!). Well, any agency with their ears open would have known that sweetening the pot at this time would be a winner for them. I was wondering if SS was going to do something to that effect, and here it is. Meanwhile, FT goes the opposite direction and basically begins squeezing off their lifeblood (contributors). No win for them. So now that they've decided the road they're going to take, it would be wise for other agencies to follow SS' example:  "We designed this product to attract new customers who aren’t currently making purchases at Shutterstock."
Where d'you think those "new customers" will be coming from? SS is no fools. I just hope they stay the course for a long time to come. Those who follow SS' footsteps at this time in micro history will doubtless reap some pretty good rewards!
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Post by: lagereek on September 30, 2011, 00:57
Royalties look very competitive to me.  The graduated scale gives incentive.  30% as the high end seems reasonable.  Sure, it could always be more, but beats my 19% from Istock...

Hope this is a big success for SS and contributors :)

Yes it does, its a clever move and rates are far better then IS.
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Post by: Newsfocus1 on September 30, 2011, 01:39
Where do I find my account balance now? My download stats page now just shows earnings for this month and all time earnings -the running total of unpaid commission due has gone. Thanks, David. ???
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Post by: Anita Potter on September 30, 2011, 01:42
Where do I find my account balance now? My download stats page now just shows earnings for this month and all time earnings -the running total of unpaid commission due has gone. Thanks, David. ???

There seems to be a glitch in the system and others on the SS forum are having the same problem so you're not alone.  Not sure if anyone's written/heard back from support on it.  Hopefully someone will know something soon.

It would be nice if I could start seeing some of those new downloads.  Some have said they've gotten them I just wish one of them could be me ;)
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Post by: Newsfocus1 on September 30, 2011, 02:43
Where do I find my account balance now? My download stats page now just shows earnings for this month and all time earnings -the running total of unpaid commission due has gone. Thanks, David. ???

There seems to be a glitch in the system and others on the SS forum are having the same problem so you're not alone.  Not sure if anyone's written/heard back from support on it.  Hopefully someone will know something soon.

It would be nice if I could start seeing some of those new downloads.  Some have said they've gotten them I just wish one of them could be me ;)

Thanks Anita, not just me then. I'm sure you will be seeing some of those sales soon! Good luck. Regards, David.
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Post by: borg on September 30, 2011, 03:30
"In the midnight hour SS gave us more more more..."  ;)
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Post by: cathyslife on September 30, 2011, 06:25
I just got a second EL in the past week...sweet!
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Post by: Anita Potter on September 30, 2011, 13:10
Thanks David and I hope that glitch you all are having gets fixed soon.

borg that is just toooooo funny!  :D
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Post by: fotografer on September 30, 2011, 17:09
double post
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Post by: fotografer on September 30, 2011, 17:10
Just realized that you had to scroll down to the bottom of the stats page  to see the single sales and when I did I saw that I have had my first one for 5.70 :)  Bring them on !!
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Post by: ayzek on September 30, 2011, 23:49
i had also one 4.75 :)
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Post by: rubyroo on October 01, 2011, 03:09
Fantastic!  Well done you two.

SS are the champs  ;D
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Post by: cathyslife on October 01, 2011, 07:36
I am happy to report that my SS earnings have increased 50% (or more, for some months in 2011) in September. This is really nice to see!
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Post by: lagereek on October 01, 2011, 07:43
Inventive and full of fresh ideas!  no wonder they are the market leaders.
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Post by: Mantis on October 01, 2011, 07:47
Inventive and full of fresh ideas!  no wonder they are the market leaders.

And if they gave out a raise, they would really put themselves on an even higher plateau ;)
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Post by: fotografer on October 01, 2011, 07:59


And if they gave out a raise, they would really put themselves on an even higher plateau ;)
I think we would get down on our knees and worship them :D.  I think it would be a good PR move and people would be even more likely to upoad to them before the other sites.
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Post by: rubyroo on October 01, 2011, 08:03
Ooh yes.  I love SS to bits, but I'd never say no to a raise  ;)
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Post by: fotografer on October 03, 2011, 12:22
Is anybody getting many of these single images sales?  I just got one a few days ago and nothing since.
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Post by: Slovenian on October 03, 2011, 12:43
Indeed a raise and at the same time they could introduce image exclusivity or even better, a high priced collection like Vetta. That would surely hurt their competition, well I just hope they'd bury FT and give us a huge bump in our earnings. Lol I'd probably upload only the files SS rejected at other sites
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Post by: lthn on October 03, 2011, 12:58
Is anybody getting many of these single images sales?  I just got one a few days ago and nothing since.

It's probably gonna be pretty rare... subs > OD > single image
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Post by: gostwyck on October 03, 2011, 13:07
Indeed a raise and at the same time they could introduce image exclusivity or even better, a high priced collection like Vetta. That would surely hurt their competition ...

Don't you understand? It is precisely because they haven't "introduced image exclusivity or a high priced collection like Vetta" that SS are doing so well. It is becoming apparent that an ever-increasing number of customers like to shop where they can afford to download any image they want without having to check the price and worry about budgets. The KISS principle in action.
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Post by: cathyslife on October 03, 2011, 18:25
Is anybody getting many of these single images sales?  I just got one a few days ago and nothing since.

I have seen an increase in both single image sales and ELs. My single image sales for Sept. doubled over August's, and I've had 3 ELs in the past 2 weeks.
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Post by: michaeldb on October 03, 2011, 19:52
Indeed a raise and at the same time they could introduce image exclusivity or even better, a high priced collection like Vetta. That would surely hurt their competition ...

Don't you understand? It is precisely because they haven't "introduced image exclusivity or a high priced collection like Vetta" that SS are doing so well. It is becoming apparent that an ever-increasing number of customers like to shop where they can afford to download any image they want without having to check the price and worry about budgets. The KISS principle in action.
Absolutely. The microstock buyer is an off-the-shelf shopper looking for something he or she needs at a reasonable price - with no surprises. Microstock is not an art gallery or a fashion show. It is not a social club or group of middle school cliques. Provide a decent constistent search engine, keep pricing simple, and accept quality work no matter who is submitting it. That business model works.
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Post by: lagereek on October 04, 2011, 00:35
Yep!  the single dls are beginning to come,  5.75.  great stuff.
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Post by: fotografer on October 04, 2011, 06:05
Is anybody getting many of these single images sales?  I just got one a few days ago and nothing since.

I have seen an increase in both single image sales and ELs. My single image sales for Sept. doubled over August's, and I've had 3 ELs in the past 2 weeks.
I think you must be talking about the on demand sales not the new single image sales as they haven't been around long enough to do a month by month comparison.
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Post by: Carl on October 04, 2011, 06:10
Same here.  I've had a noticeable increase in on-demand sales lately.   :)
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Post by: rubyroo on October 04, 2011, 06:20
No SDs for me yet  :(

Waaaah!  I want one!
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Post by: cathyslife on October 04, 2011, 06:29
I think you must be talking about the on demand sales not the new single image sales as they haven't been around long enough to do a month by month comparison.

Yeah, you're right. Sorry about that, my mistake.
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Post by: gostwyck on October 10, 2011, 11:33
Finally had my first 'single image download' for $5.70. From the map it looks like it was bought in Arkansas or thereabouts so maybe that's the 'test area'.
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Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 10, 2011, 14:37
I had my first two this morning - I'd have said from the US southeast-ish. Hard to pinpoint. I do hope this is a big success for SS as it certainly (with the on demand downloads) will pull up the averages per download very nicely :)
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Post by: stockmarketer on October 10, 2011, 14:48
Just had my first one this morning as well.  Maybe it's just starting to roll out on a wider basis?  I was wondering why I wasn't getting any while my sales on subs, ODs and ELs have been higher than they have ever been.
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Post by: sharpshot on October 10, 2011, 15:47
I still haven't had one but SS sales are so good, I don't care :)
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Post by: cathyslife on October 12, 2011, 16:57
I still haven't seen a single image DL but I did get 2 ELs today...I'll take 2 of those over singe image DLs any day!
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Post by: flashon on October 14, 2011, 23:29
Got a second one today, so their testing program is still going... hope more to come to everyone. Meanwhile the regular sales are better than ever, SS rocks!
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Post by: Slovenian on October 15, 2011, 04:06
No single sales, no ELs and the overall sales are weak. No light at the end of the tunnel for my October's earnings at SS (and actually everywhere except 123RF). 1 cool think happened though, I just got a raise (36c)
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Post by: Maui on October 15, 2011, 04:31
I got $4.80 for a single download yesterday. Before I got $5.70 twice. Perhaps they lowered the price for singles?
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Post by: sharpshot on October 26, 2011, 17:38
Had my first one today for $5.70.
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Post by: Slovenian on October 27, 2011, 01:34
Me too, but it wasn't from a redneck area, it was bought in the Seattle area. Had a great day yesterday :)
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Post by: Slovenian on October 28, 2011, 09:25
BTW everybody is talking about this great new product. But don't you think royalty percentages are at least low if not very low? Just 20-30%, depends on the level you're at. And yes it's the same as OD's %.

If this product would start to sell great and they'd announce exclusive images and would pay us 40-50% (or 35-50%), they'd bury IS, not to mention all the smaller agencies, since everybody would go for it. Of course they'd have to give subs a substantial bump as well. It probably isn't possible to expect something like 35-50c/DL, but 30-45c sounds pretty good as well. With traffic doubled, we'd be loaded and wouldn't worry about loading all out content to zillion sites. I'd probably UL all as non-excl at first to see how they sell on different sites (most sell best at SS anyway). And the make those exclusive that would make the most by being excl.
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Post by: wut on January 03, 2012, 15:59
I just got payed only 4.48 for a single sale. What's that about? It can't be such a small price difference due to size (like for OD pricing), I used to get 5.32 for single DLs.
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Post by: Anita Potter on January 04, 2012, 14:58
From what I understand about a thread on SS about it back in I think November is it's because the buyer had a discount.
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Post by: TheDman on January 04, 2012, 15:08
Silly Shutterstock. They will soon learn like Istock did that this business model is unsustainable.
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Post by: luissantos84 on January 04, 2012, 15:16
Silly Shutterstock. They will soon learn like Istock did that this business model is unsustainable.

not following.. what are you talking about? increase in prices?

SS is keeping the subscription model and will never drop (I guess), many and myself report higher sales on OD and SOD, so I believe if they can bring more clients into paying a little more why not? we are also talking about different clients/needs
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Post by: wut on January 04, 2012, 17:16
From what I understand about a thread on SS about it back in I think November is it's because the buyer had a discount.

Wow, I didn't know that was possible, I certainly never got less than I was supposed to, no matter what the type of purchase was (OD, EL...). I just hope they don't give in these kind of discounts we often see at IS. Well it would make sense to promote a new product for a month or so, so that buyers notice it and start using it and more importantly, that they get a larger customer base, take more market share, especially from established credit based agencies. I'd sure like to start getting those at the pace I'm getting OD's, My earnings would increase over 50% in that case (for most months anyway, if I get a lot of ELs it wouldn't make such a big difference procentually)
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Post by: Anita Potter on January 04, 2012, 17:33
Don't quote me on this but maybe in order for SS to entice the single image buyers, possibly in certain markets,  in is with a discount.  Some have seen it right off the first month that they implemented it.  I've only ever gotten 3 and haven't seen a discounted one yet but that doesn't mean I won't in the future.
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Post by: TheDman on January 04, 2012, 17:36
Silly Shutterstock. They will soon learn like Istock did that this business model is unsustainable.

not following.. what are you talking about? increase in prices?

SS is keeping the subscription model and will never drop (I guess), many and myself report higher sales on OD and SOD, so I believe if they can bring more clients into paying a little more why not? we are also talking about different clients/needs

Graduated increase in royalties based on sales. Soon everyone will be at the 30% mark, which will be unsustainable. It was a joke.
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Post by: luissantos84 on January 04, 2012, 17:38
It was a joke.

ah ok :D
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Post by: wut on January 04, 2012, 17:43
Silly Shutterstock. They will soon learn like Istock did that this business model is unsustainable.

not following.. what are you talking about? increase in prices?

SS is keeping the subscription model and will never drop (I guess), many and myself report higher sales on OD and SOD, so I believe if they can bring more clients into paying a little more why not? we are also talking about different clients/needs

Graduated increase in royalties based on sales. Soon everyone will be at the 30% mark, which will be unsustainable. It was a joke.

I hope soon there'll be a 35% level:). I still have to get to the 30% first, but the way sales are going (for a lot of ppl), it won't take long ;)
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Post by: luissantos84 on January 04, 2012, 17:51
Silly Shutterstock. They will soon learn like Istock did that this business model is unsustainable.


not following.. what are you talking about? increase in prices?

SS is keeping the subscription model and will never drop (I guess), many and myself report higher sales on OD and SOD, so I believe if they can bring more clients into paying a little more why not? we are also talking about different clients/needs


Graduated increase in royalties based on sales. Soon everyone will be at the 30% mark, which will be unsustainable. It was a joke.


I hope soon there'll be a 35% level:). I still have to get to the 30% first, but the way sales are going (for a lot of ppl), it won't take long ;)


there isnīt a % on SS, only the SOD and the footage too I guess.. the max for SOD is 30% (over 10k $)
http://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings_schedule.mhtml (http://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings_schedule.mhtml)
http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/updated-royalty-schedule (http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/updated-royalty-schedule)
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Post by: wut on January 04, 2012, 18:47
Silly Shutterstock. They will soon learn like Istock did that this business model is unsustainable.


not following.. what are you talking about? increase in prices?

SS is keeping the subscription model and will never drop (I guess), many and myself report higher sales on OD and SOD, so I believe if they can bring more clients into paying a little more why not? we are also talking about different clients/needs


Graduated increase in royalties based on sales. Soon everyone will be at the 30% mark, which will be unsustainable. It was a joke.


I hope soon there'll be a 35% level:). I still have to get to the 30% first, but the way sales are going (for a lot of ppl), it won't take long ;)


there isnīt a % on SS, only the SOD and the footage too I guess.. the max for SOD is 30% (over 10k $)
[url]http://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings_schedule.mhtml[/url] ([url]http://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings_schedule.mhtml[/url])
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/updated-royalty-schedule[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/updated-royalty-schedule[/url])


I meant 35% for SODs. ODs have a percentage, they just didn't write it in the chart (but you can easily calculate it). But there are levels, unlike when it comes to the flat rate ELs
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Post by: luissantos84 on January 04, 2012, 18:52
I meant 35% for SODs. ODs have a percentage, they just didn't write it in the chart (but you can easily calculate it). But there are levels, unlike when it comes to the flat rate ELs


are you reading what I am posting? :D

the max for SOD is 30% (over 10k)
(http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/earnings_graphic2.png)
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Post by: wut on January 04, 2012, 18:54
I meant 35% for SODs. ODs have a percentage, they just didn't write it in the chart (but you can easily calculate it). But there are levels, unlike when it comes to the flat rate ELs


are you reading what I am posting? :D

the max for SOD is 30% (over 10k)
([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/earnings_graphic2.png[/url])


I missed the 30% at the end, but you've missed the whole point of my post ;D
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Post by: luissantos84 on January 04, 2012, 18:58
no I havenīt, of course I know SS work on a level ranking, how can us contributors donīt know our royalties?
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Post by: RacePhoto on January 05, 2012, 01:48
no I havenīt, of course I know SS work on a level ranking, how can us contributors donīt know our royalties?


If I understood the question, it would be easier to answer?

Do you mean we don't know how much credits cost? or what gem we are or maybe that photos have changing prices? (down without notice) Oh wait, that's a different site. OK maybe the place where when you get close to the next payment rate, changes that based on redeemed credits, adds new rules, lowers commissions or sends your photos off to another site for 28 cents downloads? Oh wait, that's a different place. Or maybe one where they cut commissions and just forgot to tell people. Or sends your photos off to the free section without notice?  ;D

Royalties? I know mine and I know everyone's, they pay in dollars and cents, no magic and mirrors. No moving targets, changing rates, credits, or a carrot in front of the donkey's nose, when we try to reach a level, they change it. SS just pays money.

Is this what you were looking for?

http://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings_schedule.mhtml (http://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings_schedule.mhtml)
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Post by: luissantos84 on January 05, 2012, 08:30
oh boy what . is going on here?

this topic is going on other direction and total confusion!

the only thing was the 35% of the SOD which wut said 2 times, but like I have said the max is 30%, end of story

I have posted that link before Race, everybody knows their royalties on the different agencies, if not I dont know what they are doing in stock photography :D
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Post by: RacePhoto on January 05, 2012, 10:59
oh boy what . is going on here?

this topic is going on other direction and total confusion!

the only thing was the 35% of the SOD which wut said 2 times, but like I have said the max is 30%, end of story

I have posted that link before Race, everybody knows their royalties on the different agencies, if not I dont know what they are doing in stock photography :D

Yeah, glad you understand me, I was totally lost.  :)

"how can us contributors donīt know our royalties?"

Now I'm beginning to think you meant, "How can we contributors not know our royalties?" Because it's right there and clear?

I think I get it now...
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Post by: Noedelhap on January 14, 2012, 09:59
I have yet to get a Single Image download. Is it taking off at all?
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Post by: cathyslife on January 14, 2012, 10:04
I haven't seen any yet.
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Post by: wut on January 14, 2012, 10:54
It took off for me this month. ODs are getting better and better too, I guess they come from falling IS sales.
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Post by: clickinchic on January 14, 2012, 10:56
I had two yesterday which added $11.40 to the increasing ODs and subs.  Still waiting for the return of the crazy ELs!  ;D
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Post by: luissantos84 on January 14, 2012, 13:10
never got 1 too
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Post by: sharpshot on January 14, 2012, 13:24
I've had 3 so far.  Hope they pick up, like the on demand sales have.
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Post by: cybernesco on January 14, 2012, 13:39
I average 420-460  downloads a month with lots of ELs and ODs but not one single image download yet..
Denis
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Post by: nicku on January 14, 2012, 13:50
I contribute on SS for 2,5 months , i have an average of 250 sales/month ... and only ONE file sold; that was in early December. I think they are rare as extended licenses on DT.
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Post by: disorderly on January 14, 2012, 14:03
I've had three so far: one in October, one in November and one a few days ago.  I'm guessing the vast majority of existing customers are regular purchasers of subscriptions or OD packages.  It could take time for new customers to discover the site and try out a new option.
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Post by: Sandeel on January 19, 2012, 19:03
Do you have to opt in or something to get the SODs? I'm getting the feeling something is wrong, because I have a few ELs every month, but only one SOD so far??

And how is it that the page showing the licenses that I can buy doesn't contain the SOD? Is that option only for U.S. buyers? I live in Europe.

 :-\
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Post by: wut on January 19, 2012, 19:05

And how is it that the page showing the licenses that I can buy doesn't contain the SOD?
 :-\

It's not a licence, just a way to buy content. Like ODs for example
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Post by: Karimala on January 19, 2012, 19:44
Do you have to opt in or something to get the SODs? I'm getting the feeling something is wrong, because I have a few ELs every month, but only one SOD so far??

And how is it that the page showing the licenses that I can buy doesn't contain the SOD? Is that option only for U.S. buyers? I live in Europe.

 :-\

The SOD program is still in beta and only available limited markets.  Mine have all come from the US.
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Post by: Sandeel on January 19, 2012, 20:05

And how is it that the page showing the licenses that I can buy doesn't contain the SOD?
 :-\

It's not a licence, just a way to buy content. Like ODs for example

But ODs are listed there. So are 25-A-Day Subscriptions and Enhanced Subscriptions, but no other pricing than those. Are you seeing the same?

Do you have to opt in or something to get the SODs? I'm getting the feeling something is wrong, because I have a few ELs every month, but only one SOD so far??

And how is it that the page showing the licenses that I can buy doesn't contain the SOD? Is that option only for U.S. buyers? I live in Europe.

 :-\


The SOD program is still in beta and only available limited markets.  Mine have all come from the US.

I see, thanks. Maybe it just takes more time.
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Post by: sharpshot on January 20, 2012, 04:04
None all month, then I had 3 of these SOD's yesterday.