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Lagereek

« on: May 02, 2011, 00:16 »

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It seamt to me that John Oringer of SS, simply gets in right in just about everything, at least for contributors and buyers, just look at the new editing system where keywords comes up in little squares and the entire interface for that matter, brillant! followed by the keywords that were used to find youre shots.

At the moment he is by far the market leader and got it all in the palm of his hand, so why doesnt he do a clever move and take over the whole damned micro thingy, Im sure we would be a lot happier.

The differance between how SS, is run, compared to the computer-nerd clowns at IS, is staggering, frightening! actually!

Leads me to speculate that if SS, introduced exclusivity, they would have a line-up of 70% of all contributors in the entire Micro industry. A down out Kill !


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microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2011, 00:36 »

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Yeah, Shutterstock is the only site I completely trust and I would actually consider for exclusivity, yet I'd prefer to stay independent. Tomorrow never knows.


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Lagereek

« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2011, 00:45 »

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Quote from: microstockphoto.co.uk on May 02, 2011, 00:36

Yeah, Shutterstock is the only site I completely trust and I would actually consider for exclusivity, yet I'd prefer to stay independent. Tomorrow never knows.

Sure! but IF you ever consider exclusivity, thats the one to go for.


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sharpshot

« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2011, 01:34 »

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I'm not interested in complete exclusivity like istock have but I might be interested in exclusive images. The problem is that SS aren't going that way. They are great but they have really lost out to Pond5 with footage and as Pond5 pay 50% commission, that's worked out well for me.


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Slovenian

« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2011, 04:34 »

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By far the best site, easiest to use and what's most important it's the best earner for me. I'm only submitting to IS and SS so if there was an exclusive option, I'd go for it. IS can't get anything right (and on top of that the new best match favours exclusives even more heavily) and SS couldn't get that fcuked up even if they try. Really hard.


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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2011, 04:44 »

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Shutterstock are great in what they do, but for me they still have the lowest RPD compared to iS, Fotolia & Dreamstime which as an independant is the one and only thing that matters. Easy upload, good editing tools and everything else that Shutterstock do so well is fine but when it comes to the bottom line it's money that counts.

To go exclusive there would see me out of business.


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Perry

« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2011, 04:51 »

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I just wish they would drop the categories.


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Lagereek

« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2011, 05:01 »

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Quote from: RT on May 02, 2011, 04:44

Well Im not so sure anymore, I get plenty "demand" sales and ELs per month and the way some of the others are going, in a years time? Huh

who knows.


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sharpshot

« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2011, 05:15 »

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Lagereek

« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2011, 05:45 »

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They could ofcourse consider, Picture-exclusivity, same as DT has. A little more in commissions, etc, just that alone would be a giant leap.


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stockastic

« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2011, 09:42 »

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Quote from: Perry on May 02, 2011, 04:51

I just wish they would drop the categories.


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elvinstar

« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2011, 10:15 »

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but when it comes to the bottom line it's money that counts.

I agree, but couldn't possibly care less about RPD. I only care how much my payout is at the end of the month.


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Lagereek

« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2011, 10:46 »

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Quote from: elvinstar on May 02, 2011, 10:15

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but when it comes to the bottom line it's money that counts.

I agree, but couldn't possibly care less about RPD. I only care how much my payout is at the end of the month.

Once you have been in business for a longer period, you will find that the payout is secondary, stabillity and security is worth just about 1000 times more, why? because without that your payout will soon drop.

This is where IS finally failed and became the most instable and insecure place in the business, regardless of exclusive or independant.


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lisafx

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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2011, 12:09 »

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I love Shutterstock, and certainly agree they are doing things right. No drama over there. However I can say the same about Dreamstime too. Everything just works at both sites.

I nearly got suckered into exclusivity at Istock last year. That was a close call. I don't expect I will be considering exclusivity anywhere else, even if it were offered.


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michaeldb

« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2011, 12:46 »

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Quote from: lisafx on May 02, 2011, 12:09

...I don't expect I will be considering exclusivity anywhere else, even if it were offered.

+1 If you can, it is good to avoid putting all your eggs in any one basket; diversify in every way possible. This leads to stability. The more good microstock agencies there are, the better off we will be IMO.


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nruboc

« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2011, 13:06 »

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'Jon' Oringer for president!!!!!! Grin


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redo

« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2011, 13:07 »

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...but the RPD is only (under) 20 % from the RPD at istock, dreamstime or fotolia for me. And this is horrible for me as a free illustrator !


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Morphart

« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2011, 13:53 »

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Quote from: microstockphoto.co.uk on May 02, 2011, 00:36

Yeah, Shutterstock is the only site I completely trust and I would actually consider for exclusivity, yet I'd prefer to stay independent. Tomorrow never knows.

I would definetly consider Exclusive images with Shutterstock. I am lining up a lot of images for sale only there (as some other sites (Ex: Dreamstimes, iStock) say those images a irrelevant if not modified from their original source. Fact is, those images are getting sold like hot pancakes on Shutterstock and are making more than 1/2 my sales there.

I agree what Lagereek says. Great stats, great and STEADY sales, and they keep an ear open for the contributors. Definetly a leader!


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visceralimage

« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2011, 13:59 »

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Quote from: lisafx on May 02, 2011, 12:09

I love Shutterstock, and certainly agree they are doing things right. No drama over there. However I can say the same about Dreamstime too. Everything just works at both sites.

My big compliant with DT currently is their stupid upload limits; 36 a week is to constraining, 18 if you are below 80% approval.


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borg

« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2011, 14:21 »

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Shutterstock is OK!
But I can't forget their reaction on our comments when taxation started...


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gostwyck

« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2011, 14:33 »

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Quote from: lagereek on May 02, 2011, 00:16

Leads me to speculate that if Shutterstock, introduced exclusivity, they would have a line-up of 70% of all contributors in the entire Micro industry. A down out Kill !

SS won't introduce exclusivity. Why would they? They'd have to increase commissions to pay for it ... that means they'd have to introduce additional price tiers for customers ... the additional cost does not confer any benefit to the customer (who just want an image that suits their purpose) ... thus making SS less competitive ... etc, etc, etc.

The reason that SS are so successful is precisely because they haven't introduced exclusivity, or price tiers, or expensive imagery. That's exactly where most of the other agencies have gone wrong, Istock being a current extreme case-in-point.


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grp_photo

« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2011, 14:56 »

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mmh Shutterstock is okay but I think they are responsible to same extend for the state of the industry (oversupply and too low prices). Their referral-program did a lot too the oversupply and wouldn't they have been so successful with their subscription-program no other microsite (i.e. FT, DT etc.) would have ever introduced subscription. I have nothing against Shutterstock but I really think without them the overall market would be better.


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luissantos84

« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2011, 15:44 »

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Quote from: stockastic on May 02, 2011, 09:42

Quote from: Perry on May 02, 2011, 04:51

I just wish they would drop the categories.

I don´t see the problem on categories, you can even pick a few pictures and add the same category


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Morphart

« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2011, 19:45 »

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Quote from: luissantos84 on May 02, 2011, 15:44

Quote from: stockastic on May 02, 2011, 09:42

Quote from: Perry on May 02, 2011, 04:51

I just wish they would drop the categories.

I don´t see the problem on categories, you can even pick a few pictures and add the same category

Choosing categories takes seconds (or few minutes depending on how many images you upload). You can select multiple images of the same categories and apply them in batches. Nothing like fotolia 1 images at a time submission, or Dreamstime for that matter. (won't talk about iStock

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elvinstar

« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2011, 22:13 »

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Quote from: lagereek on May 02, 2011, 10:46

Quote from: elvinstar on May 02, 2011, 10:15

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but when it comes to the bottom line it's money that counts.

I agree, but couldn't possibly care less about RPD. I only care how much my payout is at the end of the month.

I'm not really sure where that "been in business for a longer period" comment came from. I've been submitting since 2004....


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