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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2015, 10:47 »
+1
The fact is your 15 sales a day, not that they are manipulating your sales, thats a theory.

Yes they are manipulating my sales... Oh hang on yes that's a conspiracy theory off I go :D


« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2015, 19:31 »
+4
This has been talked about many times but since it's come up again I have another datapoint that supports SS auto-control turning down (or controlling) sales.  My first 2 days of March were low ($15 ish per day) based on my daily average (avg-$30), then day 3 was a monster day, well over $100, then the next 4 days NO OD's, NO VIDEO SALES, NO SOD's and low subs. No days over $13 since my big $100+ day. This happens ALL THE TIME TO ME.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2015, 19:34 by Mantis »

« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2015, 23:07 »
+2
This has been talked about many times but since it's come up again I have another datapoint that supports SS auto-control turning down (or controlling) sales.  My first 2 days of March were low ($15 ish per day) based on my daily average (avg-$30), then day 3 was a monster day, well over $100, then the next 4 days NO OD's, NO VIDEO SALES, NO SOD's and low subs. No days over $13 since my big $100+ day. This happens ALL THE TIME TO ME.

Mine sounds the same except no $100 days in months.

Snow

« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2015, 04:20 »
+1
My last post,

I don't know what's going in this business anymore, it feels like one big charade to me. I can honestly say that I don't trust these agencies nor most of my fellow contributors for that matter but I don't need them to get payed anyway.
Just watch out when you complain to agencies or how you present yourself on the forums because it can probably make or brake you.
Some people have the luxury to pass reviews quick and easy while others with better quality/concept are being blocked.
Some and mostly the same ones receive the extra exposure in galleries or get other vip treatments with consistent sales and up while others doing the same or have better quality/concept get inconsistent sales and struggle to survive.
After 4 years (it took me long enough) I'm starting to think if it's all rigged then why even bother anymore? What makes you certain uploading another couple of thousand is going to have any positive effect on your income?
I believe most are being affected by search manipulation, say when someone has an EL or SOD the total dl's for the day are lower then average, maybe the next day a bad day and by the end of the month you still come out average or down. Maybe one month will be amazing and the next a complete disaster. Do they throw in the occasional EL or SOD to make us think all is well and continue uploading? It would probably do the trick for most of you right?
It would be easy for them to implement a criteria in search that whenever a contributor reaches a certain amount of money (or a period of time during the day) his port rotates out of sight for a while so everyone gets a piece of the pie. It sure feels that way doesn't it? I even believe it goes much further then that but I will not go into that here.
I also noticed that those who try to prove others wrong barely make 500 with 2k images, that's far from doing well. 1k would be average while 2k or more would be doing well. I have noticed that most of us that complain are doing far better then the groupies out there trying to lecture us.
Alright, I'm going to take Batman's advice, he's a fine example btw!

Quote
Don't let us stop you, please leave now, and MSG to. Good luck.

All the best!

Semmick Photo

« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2015, 05:00 »
+1
This has been talked about many times but since it's come up again I have another datapoint that supports SS auto-control turning down (or controlling) sales.  My first 2 days of March were low ($15 ish per day) based on my daily average (avg-$30), then day 3 was a monster day, well over $100, then the next 4 days NO OD's, NO VIDEO SALES, NO SOD's and low subs. No days over $13 since my big $100+ day. This happens ALL THE TIME TO ME.
Wrote about this a while back on the SS forum and was hounded down by the establishment, just dismissing the argument without any info to back up their claims, while I had posted graphs and examples. The one person who did agree with me, had analysed his own data and came to the same conclusion
« Last Edit: March 08, 2015, 05:02 by Semmick Photo »

« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2015, 07:53 »
+3
My last post,

I don't know what's going in this business anymore, it feels like one big charade to me. I can honestly say that I don't trust these agencies nor most of my fellow contributors for that matter but I don't need them to get payed anyway.
Just watch out when you complain to agencies or how you present yourself on the forums because it can probably make or brake you.
Some people have the luxury to pass reviews quick and easy while others with better quality/concept are being blocked.
Some and mostly the same ones receive the extra exposure in galleries or get other vip treatments with consistent sales and up while others doing the same or have better quality/concept get inconsistent sales and struggle to survive.
After 4 years (it took me long enough) I'm starting to think if it's all rigged then why even bother anymore? What makes you certain uploading another couple of thousand is going to have any positive effect on your income?
I believe most are being affected by search manipulation, say when someone has an EL or SOD the total dl's for the day are lower then average, maybe the next day a bad day and by the end of the month you still come out average or down. Maybe one month will be amazing and the next a complete disaster. Do they throw in the occasional EL or SOD to make us think all is well and continue uploading? It would probably do the trick for most of you right?
It would be easy for them to implement a criteria in search that whenever a contributor reaches a certain amount of money (or a period of time during the day) his port rotates out of sight for a while so everyone gets a piece of the pie. It sure feels that way doesn't it? I even believe it goes much further then that but I will not go into that here.
I also noticed that those who try to prove others wrong barely make 500 with 2k images, that's far from doing well. 1k would be average while 2k or more would be doing well. I have noticed that most of us that complain are doing far better then the groupies out there trying to lecture us.
Alright, I'm going to take Batman's advice, he's a fine example btw!

Quote
Don't let us stop you, please leave now, and MSG to. Good luck.

All the best!

I agree with some of your points and not with others, but sorry you have let some rudeness or bad attitudes chase you away.  The more smart and sincere posters we lose, the more the forum will be controlled by the loudmouths and know - nothings.

Rinderart

« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2015, 12:04 »
+1
It's always a shame. Thats the way with forums. I've been Posting On Photo chat rooms since they called it the Usenet, Nothing has changed. In the end, It's all Just Opinions, Some of you should have been around Years and years ago. All out wild, wild west and flame wars were very common. Sorry to see anyone leave. It's all just One big Pile of anonymous folks that Im sure if anyone of us actually Knew each other we would find we have a lot More in Common than you think. The thing that always blows me away is when we do workshops and 15 or so show up that we've talked to or read for years thinking we know them somehow...NOTHING could be farther from the reality of who they are.Always 100% opposite.....Always.

Be well Snow.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2015, 12:20 »
-5
We dont need to be in photography to be on a forum. I posted on forums since the start of the public internet. Please dont assume that today's kids dont know what happens in a forum. I dont think they need you to tell them how the internet was in 1990, they all know and probably more about it.  ;)

Rinderart

« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2015, 13:07 »
+1
Good example of my post.lol.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2015, 13:16 »
+2
I  am not seeing it

« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2015, 22:08 »
0
This has been talked about many times but since it's come up again I have another datapoint that supports SS auto-control turning down (or controlling) sales.  My first 2 days of March were low ($15 ish per day) based on my daily average (avg-$30), then day 3 was a monster day, well over $100, then the next 4 days NO OD's, NO VIDEO SALES, NO SOD's and low subs. No days over $13 since my big $100+ day. This happens ALL THE TIME TO ME.
Wrote about this a while back on the SS forum and was hounded down by the establishment, just dismissing the argument without any info to back up their claims, while I had posted graphs and examples. The one person who did agree with me, had analysed his own data and came to the same conclusion

Have link to your discover, graphs and examples?

« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2015, 08:00 »
0
This has been talked about many times but since it's come up again I have another datapoint that supports SS auto-control turning down (or controlling) sales.  My first 2 days of March were low ($15 ish per day) based on my daily average (avg-$30), then day 3 was a monster day, well over $100, then the next 4 days NO OD's, NO VIDEO SALES, NO SOD's and low subs. No days over $13 since my big $100+ day. This happens ALL THE TIME TO ME.
Wrote about this a while back on the SS forum and was hounded down by the establishment, just dismissing the argument without any info to back up their claims, while I had posted graphs and examples. The one person who did agree with me, had analysed his own data and came to the same conclusion

Have link to your discover, graphs and examples?

That gets tricky with SS because they do not allow you to share financial data without fear of an account warning or closure.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2015, 11:20 by Mantis »

« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2015, 09:25 »
+1
Just bad days for me now. Some days just .33 cents. Absolutely soul destroying.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2015, 09:41 »
0
Yadayada I am not allowed to share those details anymore. It's all still on the SS forum for everyone to read.

« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2015, 12:54 »
0
Yadayada I am not allowed to share those details anymore. It's all still on the SS forum for everyone to read.

Okay the SS forum search is broke. Link please?

Semmick Photo

« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2015, 12:55 »
-2
LOL, if its broken for you, its broken for me.   ;)

« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2015, 21:49 »
0
LOL, if its broken for you, its broken for me.   ;)


That's your proof?





 

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