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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: Chichikov on January 31, 2017, 02:55
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https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings
Is it a joke or what?
Why to do better when you can do worse?
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Tout est possible...
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Tout est possible...
Ça c'est sûr ma brave dame!
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"When viewing less dates, days without any downloads are hidden".
So that'll stop 'em whinging!
They didn't really happen...
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Ugly and clunky.
Can't see at a glance, have to click through various tabs, can't easily compare sales of old images against new, only 20 images per page.
Edit: I'm thinking this is a bug, and that nothing has actually changed, (although I'm reluctant to clear cache/cookies just in case I get stuck with the new way).
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When you click on the tabs Enhanced, On demand, etc, you can see the total earnings of one single image in the chosen category.
But it is not possible to see the total earnings by images all categories included…
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try with https://submit.shutterstock.com/stats.mhtml
the old stats is working for now :)
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Where did you find this link?
https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings
When I click on it I see the new table.
But when I click on the 'Earnings' menu I still see the old - and better - table
Is it a preview of things to come, or just an alternative way of seeing earnings?
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Here we go again. IStock the second. "Fix" things that aren't broken, leave the broken things broken.
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I don't like the new table look, it's harder to read than the previous design. What I do like is the image gallery stats on the other tabs. We can now sort on total earnings again!
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We can now sort on total earnings again!
That's great. But I would like to see the total earnings across all categories in a single tab too.
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Where did you find this link?
https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings
When I click on it I see the new table.
But when I click on the 'Earnings' menu I still see the old - and better - table
Is it a preview of things to come, or just an alternative way of seeing earnings?
Me too. I don't think a new table exists at all, it must be bug that makes the page load incorrectly.
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Image gallery stats has long scrambled results beginning on page 52. Wish they would fix that some day.
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Where did you find this link?
https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings
When I click on it I see the new table.
But when I click on the 'Earnings' menu I still see the old - and better - table
Is it a preview of things to come, or just an alternative way of seeing earnings?
Me too. I don't think a new table exists at all, it must be bug that makes the page load incorrectly.
Interesting how the forum here can go into a rage against a page that doesn't exist with some small temporary page direct error.
Image gallery stats has long scrambled results beginning on page 52. Wish they would fix that some day.
Correct image gallery stats is buggy. The earnings had to be disabled because it didn't work. Total purchases shows files with less, ahead of files with more downloads. I never checked to see if the date sort actually worked? :(
But attention those of you who like nit picking and details. Image Gallery Stats says on the tab in a box, BETA. Do I need to explain to everyone here what that means?
Yes it's broken. It's not important. Making money and getting downloads is important. A stupid page of stats is minor.
Earnings summary is fine, shows every day of the month. https://submit.shutterstock.com/stats.mhtml I don't know what page the OP found or how. It would be interesting to see where that came from, since it's not a page at all? Somebody in the big tall building screwed the code up.
https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings
Is it a joke or what?
Why to do better when you can do worse?
How did you find that. Page doesn't exist. I think it's another one of those, updates that isn't checked for accuracy before it goes live. I find nothing a surprise anymore when some page is broken on SS.
But it's not a new feature at least. :)
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Doesn't work.
It'd be good if someone took a screenshot.
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there's a screen shot in the SS forums
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/90202-new-design-of-earning-table-is-not-good/page-2
and from SS
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/90213-refreshed-earnings-pages-coming-soon/?pl=SubGF
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there's a screen shot in the SS forums
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/90202-new-design-of-earning-table-is-not-good/page-2
and from SS
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/90213-refreshed-earnings-pages-coming-soon/?pl=SubGF
Thanks. Judging by that one screenshot with the empty table, it doesn't look so bad. It's actually quite similar to the current table. Dunno.
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I don't think it's bad or good, it's just a change in the arrangement of the data.
What I DO think is that it's not what needs to be done at the moment.
You want to patch the roof before you put up the fancy wallpaper.
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Doesn't work.
It'd be good if someone took a screenshot.
Great, easy to read, organized, shows what we need first.
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It was back.......now its gone again and just whirring.....oh no - I lie - it's meercats (scouting around for a solution maybe?)
What a state of affairs when it is one of the things that didn't actually need fixing.
:(
On the other hand, soon may not have to go there so often. Not a single additional sale has been reported since this morning.
Note to self: update CV.......
:(
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It was back.......now its gone again and just whirring.....oh no - I lie - it's meercats (scouting around for a solution maybe?)
What a state of affairs when it is one of the things that didn't actually need fixing.
:(
On the other hand, soon may not have to go there so often. Not a single additional sale has been reported since this morning.
Note to self: update CV.......
:(
Works for me dont like it...nothing wrong with the original
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It was back.......now its gone again and just whirring.....oh no - I lie - it's meercats (scouting around for a solution maybe?)
What a state of affairs when it is one of the things that didn't actually need fixing.
:(
On the other hand, soon may not have to go there so often. Not a single additional sale has been reported since this morning.
Note to self: update CV.......
:(
Works for me dont like it...nothing wrong with the original
I guess I shouldn't complain since I can't see it and my sales are reporting just fine. :D
If it's not broken, don't fix it. Fix the things that are broken!
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Since today I'm seeing the new table.
And I don't like it: too many clicks to see the same data that was visible in a single page before.
Also, showing total on the top line instead of bottom seems an upside-down way of doing things.
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The cynic in me thinks this has been implemented on purpose to cause a smokesreen, whilst the new pricing structure gets quietly slipped into place.
Shutterstock will make a 'we listen to our contributors' announcement, revert back to how it was, and quietly cut our earnings in the process.
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The cynic in me thinks this has been implemented on purpose to cause a smokesreen
Yes, it certainly does make you wonder. The old one allowed you to see daily earnings of all types on a single page, and now it takes multiple clicks to get the same information. There was no problem with the old version and no clamoring for improvements so why go to the bother of changing it unless there are ulterior motives. It's terrible that we have all become so cynical.
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It was back.......now its gone again and just whirring.....oh no - I lie - it's meercats (scouting around for a solution maybe?)
What a state of affairs when it is one of the things that didn't actually need fixing.
:(
On the other hand, soon may not have to go there so often. Not a single additional sale has been reported since this morning.
Note to self: update CV.......
:(
Works for me dont like it...nothing wrong with the original
oh-oh, i smell a new IT dept at the new expensive tower,
therefore need to show they are better than the one who left to"spend time with family".
so, since they can't fix the real problem that the predecessor failed to improve,
they decided to send their own smokescreen..
to fix what does not need to be fixed....
ie. but reducing the available infos of easy access for the contributors
so it looks like the new IT knows their stuff.
(psst: no doubt , another cousin of another major shareholder's cousin's cousin 8)
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Works fine, shows everything shows and I can select by each earnings in the right order not like old pages. Now I see my top earning in every category. Rank by earnings or downloads.
(http://i.imgur.com/xiQoAKZ.jpg)
What's wrong?
I thought you hated image gallery stats that never worked. Now we have what does work.
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It is time for a (new) petition……
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Works fine, shows everything shows and I can select by each earnings in the right order not like old pages. Now I see my top earning in every category. Rank by earnings or downloads.
([url]http://i.imgur.com/xiQoAKZ.jpg[/url])
What's wrong?
I thought you hated image gallery stats that never worked. Now we have what does work.
But we cannot see the top earning "all categories included", and this is bad if we want to know the (grand) total earned with a single image
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Works fine, shows everything.....
Seriously? I need to see how my new images are performing and they have removed sorting by ID or Date uploaded from both the Earning stats and Image Gallery Stats. I know my all time best sellers. I need to know the performance of my newest images. If it makes any sense to keep uploading... Where can you find it? I cant see it.
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Works fine, shows everything.....
Seriously? I need to see how my new images are performing and they have removed sorting by ID or Date uploaded from both the Earning stats and Image Gallery Stats. I know my all time best sellers. I need to know the performance of my newest images. If it makes any sense to keep uploading... Where can you find it? I cant see it.
Shutterstock does not want that you can do that, it is obvious…
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You can sort them in the catalog manager.
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But we cannot see the top earning "all categories included", and this is bad if we want to know the (grand) total earned with a single image
And I can't see last year, or January, except spreadsheet. So agreed it's not perfect, but it's better. Better separation of sales by types and image. Real number of sales and income data finally.
Maybe this isn't the end of all changes?
If you want a total, look at any set with the image, https://submit.shutterstock.com/catalog_manager total is shown. Yes, it's not as easy. Personally I like seeing the sales by type, more than just one crummy total with no sense to it, or how that was earned?
Doesn't anyone else find the types of sales more interesting than a total number sold and $ and nothing else?
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mine just switched over.
In general I think the new look is ok, although it will take some getting used to (and I don't think the old one needed to change - they could have just made the old columns sortable as they once were for a while as I recall).
I would like to see a sort by date and also a total sales column. It was hard to tell without a subs only column before though how much of the total was subs and how much were the other sales.
They also should show the images with 0 sales at the end of the sort.
edited....
I take it back - the way they report sales for a single day is just lame and stupid requiring extra clicks etc... Why did they change that?
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But we cannot see the top earning "all categories included", and this is bad if we want to know the (grand) total earned with a single image
And I can't see last year, or January, except spreadsheet. So agreed it's not perfect, but it's better. Better separation of sales by types and image. Real number of sales and income data finally.
Maybe this isn't the end of all changes?
If you want a total, look at any set with the image, https://submit.shutterstock.com/catalog_manager total is shown. Yes, it's not as easy. Personally I like seeing the sales by type, more than just one crummy total with no sense to it, or how that was earned?
Doesn't anyone else find the types of sales more interesting than a total number sold and $ and nothing else?
I don't say that I don't like to have the different types of sales separated, but was it so difficult to make also the total of them?
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Lots of wasted space so I have to look at two (or more if it's a good day) pages to see subscription sales for a single day. Something I could quickly get with one click - what sold today - now requires lots of clicks for more than one page.
Not sure what problem they were trying to solve, but I don't think this is helpful. I can live with it, but I don't see it as a step forward even though it looks a little less old fashioned than before. It is certainly nice that I can sort on column headings, but why can't I have more than one column to fill my monitor's available space?
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It's poor usability design. You have to click more than before the see the same information, like 3 more clicks. I stick to the app these days. It's much easier to navigate.
The new design does lighten the server load for SS though. Maybe presenting everything at once was too server intensive and this new design was created to make the things run faster.
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And maybe it's designed to keep us from checking our stats so often.
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I don't like ...
Thumbs small, strange order of images (i prefer sorted by ID number), too much clicks and blank space ... >:(
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Doesn't anyone else find the types of sales more interesting than a total number sold and $ and nothing else?
Two different things:
I find it a welcome improvement on the Gallery [beta] indeed, that's what it should replace.
I just don't find it an improvement on the Earnings page, which was easier to understand at a glance in the old version.
On a positive note, my F5 obsession is over.
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Good or bad, i really don't care.
This was not the first thing to do.
Something is
Broken , there is a to do list on ss forum, admin please watch it !!!!
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My Earnings Page just got back to the old version, which is much much better! I hope they don't change it because 99% of contributors don't like the new one!
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Would be better to see unsold images at the end of the Top Performers list. It's important to consider what doesn't sell in order to improve.
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My Earnings Page just got back to the old version, which is much much better!
Mine got back to the old version too for a while... and now back to the new one again, unfortunately
I hope they don't change it because 99% of contributors don't like the new one!
I am sure they will change it instead, because 99% of contributor don't like the new one!
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I honestly don't see how anyone can like this change. I suppose the monthly view is ok but it is kind of awkward to have the all time total and the monthly total at the top instead of the bottom. Once used to it it will probably be just fine.
The daily stats view is terrible though. I had to visit 5 different pages to see what I sold today when just this morning I could have seen it all on 1 page. The old view also sorted images with the oldest on top and the newest on the bottom which made it easy to quickly scan and see how your whole portfolio was performing; old, new, and everything in between.
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the more I look at it the less I like it. For instance - the daily total is now gone. That is the most important data point for the day, and it is no longer visible. oops - no it is just at the front of the column.
Also you can get to the total sales by all methods via "top performers" under "insights". You can only sort on total $ though and they don't show the 0 sales images.
They should leave us both options and see which ones get used, especially for the daily sales page.
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Doesn't anyone else find the types of sales more interesting than a total number sold and $ and nothing else?
Two different things:
I find it a welcome improvement on the Gallery [beta] indeed, that's what it should replace.
I just don't find it an improvement on the Earnings page, which was easier to understand at a glance in the old version.
On a positive note, my F5 obsession is over.
;D F5 stopped for me years ago. When I saw it was updated every 24 hours in some places, what's the rush.
Yes and I'm just hoping that this is a step on the way to making things better. It's an upgrade from broken, and there's room to make it better in the future.
In some ways it's cleaner and in others it's missing parts.
I still like the sales by type of download all in one and sorted by income or sales.
Now add a total for everything, because we know it's already there. I can see it on the catalog page. Just needs to be codded into a way for us to see on earnings.
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I like the visual appeal of the new interface. However, it doesn't quite work right on mobile devices. I agree with all who are saying purchases should all be shown on one page instead of switching between multiple. However, I can live with that. The thing I really would like to see go back is sorting on the Insights pages. I sort by Total Number Sold. The new method of Dollars Earned isn't as helpful to me as I have files that jumped way up because because of single high-dollar sales.
My number two image listed on the page I know has only sold twice, but I only know that because I remember. Just looking at the stats it appears like it must be very popular, when really it's not, and if I uploaded more like it I wouldn't have much sales luck.
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I like the visual appeal of the new interface. However, it doesn't quite work right on mobile devices. I agree with all who are saying purchases should all be shown on one page instead of switching between multiple. However, I can live with that. The thing I really would like to see go back is sorting on the Insights pages. I sort by Total Number Sold. The new method of Dollars Earned isn't as helpful to me as I have files that jumped way up because because of single high-dollar sales.
My number two image listed on the page I know has only sold twice, but I only know that because I remember. Just looking at the stats it appears like it must be very popular, when really it's not, and if I uploaded more like it I wouldn't have much sales luck.
If you're on mobile, you should use their app. It's so much cleaner and easier to use.
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I really prefer the old design - everything on one page, newest images at the bottom so you could see how they were doing, one simple click and everything was there. The new design is nothing like as user friendly or useful to me.
Steve
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If you're on mobile, you should use their app. It's so much cleaner and easier to use.
I never actually checked it out before. I downloaded it. I really like it visually. I wish it had the world map that the website does, although I recognize that a map of where people are downloading stuff from doesn't really tell me much. However, it's completely missing an Image Insights page. I can individually click on each picture to find out how often it's been downloaded, but it doesn't have an overall Insights page.
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I like the visual appeal of the new interface. However, it doesn't quite work right on mobile devices. I agree with all who are saying purchases should all be shown on one page instead of switching between multiple. However, I can live with that. The thing I really would like to see go back is sorting on the Insights pages. I sort by Total Number Sold. The new method of Dollars Earned isn't as helpful to me as I have files that jumped way up because because of single high-dollar sales.
My number two image listed on the page I know has only sold twice, but I only know that because I remember. Just looking at the stats it appears like it must be very popular, when really it's not, and if I uploaded more like it I wouldn't have much sales luck.
If you're on mobile, you should use their app. It's so much cleaner and easier to use.
There are advantages to the app. Maybe that's what's going on. I prefer a computer, laptop or desktop, but when I looked tonight on the Android I see what they are trying to do, to make them more alike.
I also saw the sold for the first time, that browsers don't show. That was amusing.
I'd agree that there are parts which are less friendly and new parts that are interesting for watching sales by types. It's got more data, but not arranged enough like the old for all of us.
Map? Is there still that screwed up toy map that's broken half the time, doesn't show things and reads unreliable data for people who'd believe it can actually tell us a location by IP address? Yes it's fun, but don't rely on any of it.
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the app doesnt update the daily earnings properly, it leaves out sales, so thats useless and the new desktop earnings tab now needs about 7 clicks to see all your earnings, compared to 1 click before. so yes, they broke something that wasnt broken. add to that the new subscription plans, and shutterstock is now ishutterstock. why on earth would they follow istock example, ss were leaders, now they are followers. i am sure the stockholders couldnt give a rats ass though, and neither will jon, their pockets are lined
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the app doesnt update the daily earnings properly, it leaves out sales, so thats useless and the new desktop earnings tab now needs about 7 clicks to see all your earnings, compared to 1 click before. so yes, they broke something that wasnt broken. add to that the new subscription plans, and shutterstock is now ishutterstock. why on earth would they follow istock example, ss were leaders, now they are followers. i am sure the stockholders couldnt give a rats ass though, and neither will jon, their pockets are lined
AdobeStock is the future leader. Some people can't see that. Financially and from an artistic business sense, they are smarter.
SS has got to catch up with forward thinking, or be passed. IS is already sinking and hopeless to try to rescue. I think Getty has seen that and is dumping IS and us.
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AdobeStock is the future leader. Some people can't see that. Financially and from an artistic business sense, they are smarter.
SS has got to catch up with forward thinking, or be passed. IS is already sinking and hopeless to try to rescue. I think Getty has seen that and is dumping IS and us.
Agreed. SS is just a 1 trick pony, but a very popular pony. Adobe has so many products that they can integrate their stock business with. They're already doing it with Creative Cloud. They may integrate it with Adobe Post and Adobe Spark next, giving their stock business extra exposure. They definitely have more potential for growth.
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I was hoping for the best. Yet new earning table design knocked in my door as well. :'(
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What I dislike with new earning table is, that when you go to Insight/Image gallery stats, you can't sort images by date uploaded and see what keywords were used for download, or, how many times new images have been downloaded. I mean is it so hard to add that option or what? It's disaster.
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The main table is fine, not very different to the old one. The fact you need to go to different tabs for a breakdown of individual sales, rather than all on one page, is an absolute nightmare and pretty much means I wont be checking that info anymore. I wonder if that's the idea? I can't think why else they would take such a retrograde step
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Ridiculous. it now takes many many clicks to see what I saw in one click before. Clicks at the bottom of the page, clicks at the top for different tabs. This new IT guy should start spending more time with his family. Immediately.
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This new IT guy should start spending more time with his family. Immediately.
There's always a new one outside the door waiting for the signal to start making improvements. A coder's gotta eat.
This new design is not the end of the world, I'll get used to it eventually and manage. Nothing new here, "technology" push and all that...
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This new IT guy should start spending more time with his family. Immediately.
There's always a new one outside the door waiting for the signal to start making improvements. A coder's gotta eat.
This new design is not the end of the world, I'll get used to it eventually and manage. Nothing new here, "technology" push and all that...
This is not the problem. The problem is that they have changed something that was almost perfect in something bad.
There are a lot of things to fix on the Shutterstock site.
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/88885-things-that-are-broken-on-ss/page-4?hl=broken#entry1580857
So it would be better if they fix what is broken and let as it is what is working.
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This new IT guy should start spending more time with his family. Immediately.
There's always a new one outside the door waiting for the signal to start making improvements. A coder's gotta eat.
This new design is not the end of the world, I'll get used to it eventually and manage. Nothing new here, "technology" push and all that...
This is not the problem. The problem is that they have changed something that was almost perfect in something bad.
There are a lot of things to fix on the Shutterstock site.
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/88885-things-that-are-broken-on-ss/page-4?hl=broken#entry1580857
So it would be better if they fix what is broken and let as it is what is working.
Yep thats the point why change stuff that works when there is stuff to fix. Or as was well put earlier fix the roof before you change the wall paper.
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There are a lot of things to fix on the Shutterstock site.
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/88885-things-that-are-broken-on-ss/page-4?hl=broken#entry1580857
So it would be better if they fix what is broken and let as it is what is working.
Yep thats the point why change stuff that works when there is stuff to fix. Or as was well put earlier fix the roof before you change the wall paper.
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ah yes, but only those who know what they are doing can fix broken things;
those who are clueless can only pretend to be doing something by "improving" something that is already working well. 8)
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So it would be better if they fix what is broken and let as it is what is working.
That of course would be ideal, but that's not how corporate giants operate. Smaller companies and start-ups make more sense when it comes to day-to-day operations, but they don't bring us any money, so we ignore them. I have not seen anyone praising any obscure stock for being great at how they treat contributors. "Oh my god, they bring me $5 per month but look at the love letters they write me". I am just gonna take the good with the bad.
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So it would be better if they fix what is broken and let as it is what is working.
That of course would be ideal, but that's not how corporate giants operate. Smaller companies and start-ups make more sense when it comes to day-to-day operations, but they don't bring us any money, so we ignore them. I have not seen anyone praising any obscure stock for being great at how they treat contributors. "Oh my god, they bring me $5 per month but look at the love letters they write me". I am just gonna take the good with the bad.
Actually I've seen lots of praise for small outfits that bring in almost nothing....yes in the end we have to suck it up but its a fair observation...big corporations often fail when they lose sight of the basics.
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Actually I've seen lots of praise for small outfits that bring in almost nothing....yes in the end we have to suck it up but its a fair observation...big corporations often fail when they lose sight of the basics.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for supporting underdogs. It is my anecdotal observation though that people who complain the most, as soon as in a position of power change their tune very quickly. It's only human I s'pose.
Technically big corporations are not persons, they can't have a vision or anything like that, they are collections of people with very different personal goals. A herd of cats most of the time.
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Actually I've seen lots of praise for small outfits that bring in almost nothing....yes in the end we have to suck it up but its a fair observation...big corporations often fail when they lose sight of the basics.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for supporting underdogs. It is my anecdotal observation though that people who complain the most, as soon as in a position of power change their tune very quickly. It's only human I s'pose.
Technically big corporations are not persons, they can't have a vision or anything like that, they are collections of people with very different personal goals. A herd of cats most of the time.
Hmm…, they are collections of people with the only and unique goal to make the most possible money in the less possible time.
They are called shareholders…
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Actually I've seen lots of praise for small outfits that bring in almost nothing....yes in the end we have to suck it up but its a fair observation...big corporations often fail when they lose sight of the basics.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for supporting underdogs. It is my anecdotal observation though that people who complain the most, as soon as in a position of power change their tune very quickly. It's only human I s'pose.
Technically big corporations are not persons, they can't have a vision or anything like that, they are collections of people with very different personal goals. A herd of cats most of the time.
Hmm…, they are collections of people with the only and unique goal to make the most possible money in the less possible time.
They are called shareholders…
so true!!! shareholders :- synonym for scavengers 8)
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Hmm…, they are collections of people with the only and unique goal to make the most possible money in the less possible time.
They are called shareholders…
Not really sure where this is going... Shareholders don't get to decide how the earning table design looks like.
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Hmm…, they are collections of people with the only and unique goal to make the most possible money in the less possible time.
They are called shareholders…
Not really sure where this is going... Shareholders don't get to decide how the earning table design looks like.
Or what new pay scheme is going to be tested on us. I'm a shareholder of a number of stocks and they don't ask me much except about what the board should do. Certainly now how to market or run the business.
Time to stop blaming web design, the search, reviews, spam, or falling sales on shareholders. IT people don't just change things, they are asked to make changes.
The cause is management incompetence in the big tower.
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Well, when things don't sell well, I usually start taking a hard look at my own competence (or lack thereof) 8). At least this is something I can change.
For some reason I don't see drops in sales related to SS alone. Just regular seasonal variations.
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Hmm…, they are collections of people with the only and unique goal to make the most possible money in the less possible time.
They are called shareholders…
Not really sure where this is going... Shareholders don't get to decide how the earning table design looks like.
Or what new pay scheme is going to be tested on us. I'm a shareholder of a number of stocks and they don't ask me much except about what the board should do. Certainly now how to market or run the business.
Time to stop blaming web design, the search, reviews, spam, or falling sales on shareholders. IT people don't just change things, they are asked to make changes.
The cause is management incompetence in the big tower.
I was wondering why you are not upset with the most of the new changes at SS! Now I know...
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if you go here you can still get to the full overview
https://submit.shutterstock.com/stats_date.mhtml?date=2017-02-04
just adjust the date at the end
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Nice 8)
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if you go here you can still get to the full overview
https://submit.shutterstock.com/stats_date.mhtml?date=2017-02-04
just adjust the date at the end
Perfection! Many thanks! :)
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Hmm…, they are collections of people with the only and unique goal to make the most possible money in the less possible time.
They are called shareholders…
Not really sure where this is going... Shareholders don't get to decide how the earning table design looks like.
Or what new pay scheme is going to be tested on us. I'm a shareholder of a number of stocks and they don't ask me much except about what the board should do. Certainly now how to market or run the business.
Time to stop blaming web design, the search, reviews, spam, or falling sales on shareholders. IT people don't just change things, they are asked to make changes.
The cause is management incompetence in the big tower.
I was wondering why you are not upset with the most of the new changes at SS! Now I know...
Can you explain what that means. I don't understand how investing in a railroad or airline makes someone like SS changes. Why would he like that?
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Thanks man!!
and if you put the link without the date var, it's the stats of today
https://submit.shutterstock.com/stats_date.mhtml
if you go here you can still get to the full overview
https://submit.shutterstock.com/stats_date.mhtml?date=2017-02-04
just adjust the date at the end
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Thanks man!!
and if you put the link without the date var, it's the stats of today
https://submit.shutterstock.com/stats_date.mhtml
if you go here you can still get to the full overview
https://submit.shutterstock.com/stats_date.mhtml?date=2017-02-04
just adjust the date at the end
Thanks now bookmark.
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The cynic in me thinks this has been implemented on purpose to cause a smokesreen
Yes, it certainly does make you wonder. The old one allowed you to see daily earnings of all types on a single page, and now it takes multiple clicks to get the same information. There was no problem with the old version and no clamoring for improvements so why go to the bother of changing it unless there are ulterior motives. It's terrible that we have all become so cynical.
when all's said an done we still know what sold, when and the resulting $ - I prefer this to what getty tells us
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doesn't work :( I think the file is deleted
https://submit.shutterstock.com/stats_date.mhtml
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... and pretty much means I wont be checking that info anymore. I wonder if that's the idea?
I guess it is. That's probably also why they started hiding unsold images from the catalog manager.
"Smokescreen" hits the nail on its head - regarding their timing as well. I don't think it's a coincidence that the new pricing plans were announced (almost) at the same time.
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yeah, they obviously read this forum and disabled the old urls. just another case of bullying the contributor. oh look they found another way to see the old format, lets remove it.
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Looks like microstock sites are going through a major BS. The new earning report is crap, the app is not working either properly. I wish they ALL close down and we can have a fresh start where actually we get paid something for the photos not ridiculous pennies. Even the highest level at SS is a slap in the face. For these prices they should accept photos taken with $100 cameras.
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I would pay a dollar or two per month for some service with good statistics about my portfolio.
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For these prices they should accept photos taken with $100 cameras.
They do.
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(http://i.imgur.com/A56XWP9l.jpg)
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Pearls on a pig
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Anyone getting this email? "
Your new contributor dashboard is coming soon. Here's a quick look at some of the great new features."
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... and pretty much means I wont be checking that info anymore. I wonder if that's the idea?
I guess it is. That's probably also why they started hiding unsold images from the catalog manager.
"Smokescreen" hits the nail on its head - regarding their timing as well. I don't think it's a coincidence that the new pricing plans were announced (almost) at the same time.
I see unsold images in catalog manager. Nothing hiding.
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... and pretty much means I wont be checking that info anymore. I wonder if that's the idea?
I guess it is. That's probably also why they started hiding unsold images from the catalog manager.
"Smokescreen" hits the nail on its head - regarding their timing as well. I don't think it's a coincidence that the new pricing plans were announced (almost) at the same time.
I see unsold images in catalog manager. Nothing hiding.
I don't see them when you go to the stats page in the catalog manager I think this is a serious flaw. I also can't figure out how to remove images from sets I don't remember how you used to do it, but I remember you could.
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I also can't figure out how to remove images from sets I don't remember how you used to do it, but I remember you could.
Mark an image in a set, then a trash can icon appears. Click on that.
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I also can't figure out how to remove images from sets I don't remember how you used to do it, but I remember you could.
Mark an image in a set, then a trash can icon appears. Click on that.
I have done that, it even pops up a dialogue box about deleting it, but then it is still there. I suppose I'll try in some other browsers eventually when I feel up for dealing with the captchas.
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... and pretty much means I wont be checking that info anymore. I wonder if that's the idea?
I guess it is. That's probably also why they started hiding unsold images from the catalog manager.
"Smokescreen" hits the nail on its head - regarding their timing as well. I don't think it's a coincidence that the new pricing plans were announced (almost) at the same time.
I see unsold images in catalog manager. Nothing hiding.
I don't see them when you go to the stats page in the catalog manager I think this is a serious flaw. I also can't figure out how to remove images from sets I don't remember how you used to do it, but I remember you could.
When you tick the box in the upper right, a trash can appears along the bottom of the image. Click and it's gone.
Now the page changed, only sold images show for earnings and other two can't be selected anymore. But this is all in process and new email shows more changes and updates. We should be a little calmer about a few day change that's going away in a few more?
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Anyone getting this email? "
Your new contributor dashboard is coming soon. Here's a quick look at some of the great new features."
I got that one too - looks like an improvement so hope to see it live soon.
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Has anyone tried to write Jon Oringer on twitter or facebook about new earning table design or whatever? What was his answer? I personally don't have accounts on twitter or facebook.
It looks like shutterstock is more concerned about Executive Order on immigration than about contributer needs. Yet Executive Order on immigration may affect the same people shutterstock does not care about as contributors. Just for show.
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Has anyone tried to write Jon Oringer on twitter or facebook about new earning table design or whatever? What was his answer? I personally don't have accounts on twitter or facebook.
It looks like shutterstock is more concerned about Executive Order on immigration than about contributer needs. Yet Executive Order on immigration may affect the same people shutterstock does not care about as contributors. Just for show.
I may or may not like the new table when it comes out but to be honest its no big deal really ....I guess you can discuss it on the forum.
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Just got access to the new dashboard. My initial impression is that it looks good and is an improvement - it will take a little getting used to but I like it.
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Can't stand it. For god's sake stop "fixing" things that aren't broken and bring back followers, similars that make sense and images from the same artist that have some relevance to the current search.
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world map is to small on new dashboard - and everything else is bad - but this thing whit wm is worst - good is that we can read exact location
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I don't care about the dashboard.
Is there any way to see all sales of a certain day on one page sorted by oldest uploaded on the top (like it used to be) ?
Looks like they have too much time there in the Empire State Building or too many people hired who have to do something - even unimportant. Why did they even touch it ? It should be the bottom of they priority list (it worked just fine and was better than it is now) given there are so many bugs, image spamming etc.
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Why top performers cannot be sorted by number of downloads?
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I hate that new crappy design >:( how can I see our image statistics? e.g. last download date, upload date, view count vs??? anyone know???
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It looks like Kate Sutterstock is a robot. She visited forum yesterday and started new topic about new dashboard. At the same time there was no answer in a topic about new earning table design. A human would write, "Hey, don't worry, we are listening to you and are planning to make everything back soon.".
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It looks like Kate Sutterstock is a robot. She visited forum yesterday and started new topic about new dashboard. At the same time there was no answer in a topic about new earning table design. A human would write, "Hey, don't worry, we are listening to you and are planning to make everything back soon.".
+10000
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we surely need back followers and undiscovered images search. it's something that is good for contributors and buyers.
this redesign is not that bad, there are some helpful stats, but bring map up (most important thing that makes SS different from other agencies and we love it)
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yes - I m starting to like this new look - but still - main problem - put world map on top - and it will be more or less - fine
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I like the new layout, but the bar graph shows me at glance that my earnings are basically half of what they were a year ago.
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to like or not to like it's just a matter of personal taste....what makes me think is that shutterstock made a substantial change in 24h vs istock taking 4-5 months to change things...
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to like or not to like it's just a matter of personal taste....what makes me think is that shutterstock made a substantial change in 24h vs istock taking 4-5 months to change things...
actually, there is no need to change something that works. the need is to change things that don't.
the dashboard now reminds me of all the other not so successful agencies
which make things so complicated to use,..
sort of like the first days of web-design when every site was an IT's delight of "look ma, i am so
incredible in web-designing.." which makes no sense to most plain-sense web user.
ss previous home page was just plain sensible... one look at you see all you needed.
then turn the page to see the detailed earnings, click a button and navigate ,etc..
today, it just seems to be just that, an IT's delight. hopeless for someone who wants to just
KISS (keep it simple stupid !!!)
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I hate that new crappy design >:( how can I see our image statistics? e.g. last download date, upload date, view count vs??? anyone know???
There was a view count on SS? Old stats didn't work right, by dollars was crazy wrong disabled, number of downloads didn't sort right. I like this version much better. The portfolio count is finally the same on stats, app and portfolio view.
I miss the image statistics for each image. Maybe it will come back? Totals and counts should be on the bottom.
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To you folks who like the design, I'm guessing you don't get many sales? If you get 20 or fewer sales per day I guess it's not a big deal, but if you get more than that it's a royal PITA. There are contributors who get thousands of sales per day...I can't imagine how frustrating it is for them to have to click a zillion times to see everything.
And since a very small percentage of contributors make a very large percentage of overall sales, they're aggravating the very people who bring home the bacon.
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i just dont understand people are moaning over the freaking LOCATION of the MAP !!! seriously, there is complaining and there is just being anal
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new dashboard says there are not new uploaded files to edit
AND there are, instead, if you use other menus (the old ones remaining)
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new dashboard says there are not new uploaded files to edit
AND there are, instead, if you use other menus (the old ones remaining)
Yes, here it says that I have had 3 rejections in the last 3 weeks. In fact there are 3 months that I have not had a rejection
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what is bothering me the most right now is that
1. No longer getting emails thanking mt for submitting content
2. Under pending approval, the number is now inaccurate (less than uploaded)
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To you folks who like the design, I'm guessing you don't get many sales? If you get 20 or fewer sales per day I guess it's not a big deal, but if you get more than that it's a royal PITA. There are contributors who get thousands of sales per day...I can't imagine how frustrating it is for them to have to click a zillion times to see everything.
Here we are. No need to design a table fitted for big numbers anymore.
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I do actually like the new dashboard design (if only it could give accurate results).
What I don't like is the detailed earnings report, especially only 20 records per page.
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Am I the only one that could care less about the map? It is just a pointless gimmick. I guess if you only make one or two sales a day it could be fun to see where those people are from. As a useful tool to help me run my business it is utterly pointless.
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Am I the only one that could care less about the map? It is just a pointless gimmick. I guess if you only make one or two sales a day it could be fun to see where those people are from. As a useful tool to help me run my business it is utterly pointless.
Me too can any one explain how they use it to improve sales?
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Don't know if it's already been said but i really dislike the total earnings in the middle of the page. Also in a ridiculous large font. It's none of peoples business in the rest of the room.
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If the home page would remember that you had changed that to current month it would actually be OK, but it always returns to total earnings which is a useless bit of information in my mind.
I also could get used to the images sold that day if they were sorted to show the most recently uploaded images first. I don't tend to care much about whether a 5 year old image has sold and the current order is either random or the order they were sold that day, which is equally useless information.
Steve
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Am I the only one that could care less about the map? It is just a pointless gimmick. I guess if you only make one or two sales a day it could be fun to see where those people are from. As a useful tool to help me run my business it is utterly pointless.
If they get rid of it, I wouldn't care at all. It's fun for the first few times you look at it, then it becomes useless.
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If the home page would remember that you had changed that to current month it would actually be OK, but it always returns to total earnings which is a useless bit of information in my mind.
I also could get used to the images sold that day if they were sorted to show the most recently uploaded images first. I don't tend to care much about whether a 5 year old image has sold and the current order is either random or the order they were sold that day, which is equally useless information.
Steve
Probably it is a simple problem of cookie.
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I want to see my non-downloaded images, how??? >:(
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For a Videographer the new design is a step backwards.
If you mainly sell videos you have to click on way more buttons as the interface defaults to photos. The old interface used to show both video and photo without clicking on anything.
There's an extra click just to submit a video.
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I also think old dashboard was better - more information in less space.
I don't need an image thumbnail of the set. All time earnings don't add any value to me, can't save the chart settings to default, they removed earning from new content - which was useful to me. Map is ok, I'm sometimes surprised to see sales from certain places, but also if I wouldn't know I would be fine.
I also don't like new earnings page - too many clicks to see what you want.
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Kate to SS management, "Many contributors complain that new design is inconvenient."
SS management, "What is design?"
Kate to SS management, "New earning table is inconvenient."
SS management; "It`s okay, will get used!"
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I used to like seeing everything I had sold in one day on one page. No idea why they would make it worse than it was? Hope they see sense and scrap the new look. They usually improve things but this time they have made it much worse.
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Am I the only one that could care less about the map? It is just a pointless gimmick. I guess if you only make one or two sales a day it could be fun to see where those people are from. As a useful tool to help me run my business it is utterly pointless.
I agree, they could put it on a separate page for those that want it.
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So, I had SOD sale today and I noticed thumb has blue edge on a map, while sub sales have grey edge. Is that new or just didn't notice before?
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I think the most recent thumb is blue bordered - the one with the location listed.
In other news after using the new pages for a bit I find it hard to believe they actually consulted any users about this. There are so many things I'd have done differently and I can't believe that most others would want the info they put at the top to be at the top. Someone posted the old page and it was just so much better. Sure they improved a few things, but for the most part it was a step backwards in terms of information and useability.
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I think the most recent thumb is blue bordered - the one with the location listed.
Correct.
I think that the idea of the new dashboard is to constantly remind us ungrateful peasants just how much we have earned in our lifetime with Shutterstock (hence the largest size font) and to distract us from the more recent earnings decline that many have complained about. :-\
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Personally they could scratch it on parchment with swans quills for all I care
I just want to know how much money I made
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Can't find number of followers ... :-\
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Can't find number of followers ... :-\
Believe that hasn't worked for a year or two
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Can't find number of followers ... :-\
Believe that hasn't worked for a year or two
Dunno whether that worked or didn't work when last seen....now it's completely disappeared with the new layout. Sorry....found it. Go to 'Earnings' in the new dashboard and click on 'delayed earnings'. Hover mouse over earnings and you'll get current month earnings with dl's and followers. First I had zero followers, then it jumped to 6 and sometime last year it went to 7 where it remained since then.(http://)
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Can't find number of followers ... :-\
Believe that hasn't worked for a year or two
Dunno whether that worked or didn't work when last seen....now it's completely disappeared with the new layout. Sorry....found it. Go to 'Earnings' in the new dashboard and click on 'delayed earnings'. Hover mouse over earnings and you'll get current month earnings with dl's and followers. First I had zero followers, then it jumped to 6 and sometime last year it went to 7 where it remained since then.(http://)
Wow!!
They can't do more simple!
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Did anyone notice that they took away the copyright line when they changed the image page? It's now "By so-and-so" instead of "Copyright so-and-so."
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I think the most recent thumb is blue bordered - the one with the location listed.
In other news after using the new pages for a bit I find it hard to believe they actually consulted any users about this. There are so many things I'd have done differently and I can't believe that most others would want the info they put at the top to be at the top. Someone posted the old page and it was just so much better. Sure they improved a few things, but for the most part it was a step backwards in terms of information and useability.
must be a new trend...I just visited another website who has a "new and improved design"...it's a mess too. An example: you can set your account to auto renew. If you dont want it to auto renew, wouldnt you think the button would say "manually renew" or maybe "auto renewal off"? No, it says "Cancels". Good grief, its like everything's a trick and convoluted just to confuse people.
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Oh, my. If one read it very attentively and slowly:
"As you know, we are investing heavily in upgrading the technology... These back-end upgrades...improved functionality...new features and innovations...
As part of this this investment you will begin to see changes... The update provides a visual refresh, and highlights the totals our contributors use the most.
This update is a part of a larger set of changes we’ll be rolling out in the coming weeks and months..............."
The worse is still coming. So good that it isn't infectious!
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I do not like the new design either
1. I can not see all daily sales on one page as I could before. Very frustrating
2. I can not order downloads by ID. This is important for me.
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1 - I'dlike to see thumbnail of "not yet submit" and "waiting approval" section on the contributor dashbord. The same as active image ... 3 thumbnail at least.
2 - same thing with the video, on the same pannel as the images. Additional resources don't need to be this big at the left.
3 - I'd like to see daily earning on the dashboard
4 - switch the frame of the map with the earning type section.
5 - Sets don't need thumbnail
Tha's how I see the dashboard from my contributor eye ! It's not bad but it need few changes.
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I do not like the new design either
1. I can not see all daily sales on one page as I could before. Very frustrating
2. I can not order downloads by ID. This is important for me.
How do you like the new dashboard on isuck? If the SS tables are terrible what's isucks a total disaster area?
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istock is always going bad showing less and less for the contributor, shutterstock usually made good changes ! It's good ! But just need few improvement but it's ok to me like that also !
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istock is always going bad showing less and less for the contributor, shutterstock usually made good changes ! It's good ! But just need few improvement but it's ok to me like that also !
Yes I like the way you put it, instead of the negative complaining. SS gave us more data and more information and new pages. Now it needs to be improved and made better. More than a few improvements, but the fact that it's changed and getting better, means there's room to improve, not some old page with lack of details.
Let the past be the past and focus on what is ahead. Don't forget what history has taught us, but also don't be stuck or dwell there.
This is new and better, people should stop picking and fault finding and maybe appreciate that the agency is trying to make the reporting better!