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« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2012, 01:14 »
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To answer the OP. Yes it was announced a while back with the new email contact who must review and approve the credentials, before we can bother uploading anything. Then you'll get a code number / case number to add to the note to reviewer, so they know we have been cleared.

Also yes, Editorial is news is unprotected, free speech. The agencies make their own rules. IS has a similar rule now, I have to attach the credentials in place of a model release there. Other than that, same requirement. Proof that we were working media at an event and have the right to distribute images for publication.

I'll be forced to repeat myself now. The laws and the agency rules are not the same thing. Never assume that because some agency makes a rule and claims it's because of the laws, that it actually IS the law.  ;D

Thanks for the info! Why couldn't they just explain about the procedure with the code in their original e-mail? In your experience, how long does it take to get your credentials reviewed? And have any of them ever be denied?


RacePhoto

« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2012, 20:50 »
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Well aside from ribbing Warren about real credentials,  :D I haven't sent in anything editorial since the new policy started. Sorry I can't answer. If I do start editing and uploading after the season is over, I'll try to remember to come back.

I just worked 2 1/2 weeks, with a Wed. off in the middle of each one. Just getting things culled and backed up, sorted, renamed, ID'ed takes up most of my energy. But of course I have time to play here and watch TV? LOL


To answer the OP. Yes it was announced a while back with the new email contact who must review and approve the credentials, before we can bother uploading anything. Then you'll get a code number / case number to add to the note to reviewer, so they know we have been cleared.

Also yes, Editorial is news is unprotected, free speech. The agencies make their own rules. IS has a similar rule now, I have to attach the credentials in place of a model release there. Other than that, same requirement. Proof that we were working media at an event and have the right to distribute images for publication.

I'll be forced to repeat myself now. The laws and the agency rules are not the same thing. Never assume that because some agency makes a rule and claims it's because of the laws, that it actually IS the law.  ;D

Thanks for the info! Why couldn't they just explain about the procedure with the code in their original e-mail? In your experience, how long does it take to get your credentials reviewed? And have any of them ever be denied?


« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2012, 01:33 »
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...They just want to make sure we are legit is the impression I've got.  It doesn't need to be too in depth...

Thanks for the info, Mat, I'll try it today...

RacePhoto

« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2012, 15:05 »
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...They just want to make sure we are legit is the impression I've got.  It doesn't need to be too in depth...

Thanks for the info, Mat, I'll try it today...

Yeah, interesting since they say we have to have approval before uploading and it has to be emailed to credentials and then we get some magic code to add to notes to the editor. Simply adding a media pass link sure seems much faster and efficient. Good idea. (if it continues to work)

I may be forced to upload something just to test it. LOL


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« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2012, 18:34 »
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So what now i need credentials to shoot the Christmas Parade ?  ;D

« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2012, 21:21 »
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So what now i need credentials to shoot the Christmas Parade ?  ;D

I doubt it.  Well, unless of course Coldplay is performing during the parade.  I think the intent of their policy is more about trademarked, mainstream events.  I shoot a ton of concerts..an unhealthy amount really.  The one thing in common no matter how diverse the acts is that the fans will have their phones and point and shoot cameras up in the air during the entire performance.  I see this requirement as a way of assuring that those aren't the shots that end up for sale.  It's a bit inconvenient but at the end of the day it's pretty minor. 


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« Reply #57 on: August 27, 2012, 21:50 »
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So what now i need credentials to shoot the Christmas Parade ?  ;D

I doubt it.  Well, unless of course Coldplay is performing during the parade.  I think the intent of their policy is more about trademarked, mainstream events.  I shoot a ton of concerts..an unhealthy amount really.  The one thing in common no matter how diverse the acts is that the fans will have their phones and point and shoot cameras up in the air during the entire performance.  I see this requirement as a way of assuring that those aren't the shots that end up for sale.  It's a bit inconvenient but at the end of the day it's pretty minor.
Yeah and when I was going to concerts you couldn't get any kind of camera near the front doors.

And after watching a recent concert yes all you see are cell phones everywhere.

ShadySue

« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2012, 04:45 »
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So what now i need credentials to shoot the Christmas Parade ?  ;D

I doubt it.  Well, unless of course Coldplay is performing during the parade.
That must depend on the country. In the UK, if the parade is on a public street, it doesn't matter if it's Coldplay, Her Maj or Zaphod Beeblebrox, their picture can be taken and sold editorially.
The micros won't accept them because how can their inspectors know for sure where a pic was taken from and the rules are presumably different elsewhere. Also they seem to guarantee their images to be 'safe'.
There are other options. Alamy springs to mind; but plenty more, no doubt. Alamy places responsibility onto the buyer, provided "Pictures have been taken from a legal location". (or have permission, obviously).

RacePhoto

« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2012, 12:42 »
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So what now i need credentials to shoot the Christmas Parade ?  ;D

I doubt it.  Well, unless of course Coldplay is performing during the parade.
That must depend on the country. In the UK, if the parade is on a public street, it doesn't matter if it's Coldplay, Her Maj or Zaphod Beeblebrox, their picture can be taken and sold editorially.
The micros won't accept them because how can their inspectors know for sure where a pic was taken from and the rules are presumably different elsewhere. Also they seem to guarantee their images to be 'safe'.
There are other options. Alamy springs to mind; but plenty more, no doubt. Alamy places responsibility onto the buyer, provided "Pictures have been taken from a legal location". (or have permission, obviously).

True, News is News or Editorial is Editorial. Freedom of speech... There are NO legal restrictions based on professional groups or requirements for having credentials.

Has anyone ever mentioned that the actual laws regulating photos and their Editorial use vs the rules the agency makes up are not the same thing? ???   ::)


« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2012, 02:21 »
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Ooops! Hit post instead of preview.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2012, 02:24 by Newsfocus1 »

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« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2012, 09:14 »
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So what now i need credentials to shoot the Christmas Parade ?  ;D

I doubt it.  Well, unless of course Coldplay is performing during the parade.
That must depend on the country. In the UK, if the parade is on a public street, it doesn't matter if it's Coldplay, Her Maj or Zaphod Beeblebrox, their picture can be taken and sold editorially.
The micros won't accept them because how can their inspectors know for sure where a pic was taken from and the rules are presumably different elsewhere. Also they seem to guarantee their images to be 'safe'.
There are other options. Alamy springs to mind; but plenty more, no doubt. Alamy places responsibility onto the buyer, provided "Pictures have been taken from a legal location". (or have permission, obviously).

True, News is News or Editorial is Editorial. Freedom of speech... There are NO legal restrictions based on professional groups or requirements for having credentials.

Has anyone ever mentioned that the actual laws regulating photos and their Editorial use vs the rules the agency makes up are not the same thing? ???   ::)
You think the sites care?

You know better then that!

They make their own rules and we have to abide by them.


 

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