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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2016, 00:14 »
+8
Looks like SS took down all most of the spammers. I was following a few portfolios with high ranking images that had spammy titles. They're no longer showing up on search results and their portfolios are gone from the site.

I think many contributors will see a small sales bump next week.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2016, 00:16 by Minsc »


« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2016, 01:16 »
+6
Looks like SS took down all most of the spammers. I was following a few portfolios with high ranking images that had spammy titles. They're no longer showing up on search results and their portfolios are gone from the site.

I think many contributors will see a small sales bump next week.
Wow! That's good.

« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2016, 07:23 »
0
I really want a explanation from the company why several month nothing happens and the contributors were ignored.
To be honest I rather think its a waste of your energy if they did give an explanation you may well not believe it.  I may be too fatalist but I think to survive in this environment its best to focus on what you can control.

I believe that to focus on things you can control is always a good action maxim, no matter what environment. (Under the premise you know what you can control and whether it is purposeful.)
And I assume that you wanted to tell me that you do not expect a statement and if only an unsatisfactory. My expectation is the same.

But: I really want a explanation from the company why several month nothing happens and the contributors were ignored.

« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2016, 07:26 »
+5
I really want a explanation from the company why several month nothing happens and the contributors were ignored.
To be honest I rather think its a waste of your energy if they did give an explanation you may well not believe it.  I may be too fatalist but I think to survive in this environment its best to focus on what you can control.

I believe that to focus on things you can control is always a good action maxim, no matter what environment. (Under the premise you know what you can control and whether it is purposeful.)
And I assume that you wanted to tell me that you do not expect a statement and if only an unsatisfactory. My expectation is the same.

But: I really want a explanation from the company why several month nothing happens and the contributors were ignored.
For what its worth my explanation is contributors were ignored but once buyers started complaining, and possibly defecting to the likes of Adobe something had to be done........

OM

« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2016, 07:35 »
0
I really want a explanation from the company why several month nothing happens and the contributors were ignored.
To be honest I rather think its a waste of your energy if they did give an explanation you may well not believe it.  I may be too fatalist but I think to survive in this environment its best to focus on what you can control.

I believe that to focus on things you can control is always a good action maxim, no matter what environment. (Under the premise you know what you can control and whether it is purposeful.)
And I assume that you wanted to tell me that you do not expect a statement and if only an unsatisfactory. My expectation is the same.

But: I really want a explanation from the company why several month nothing happens and the contributors were ignored.
For what its worth my explanation is contributors were ignored but once buyers started complaining, and possibly defecting to the likes of Adobe something had to be done........

I remember thinking as much a couple of weeks ago. Only when the buyers start voting with their feet will something be done. Looks like the buyers started shuffling out the door.

« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2016, 07:37 »
+2
In the current market its buyers who wield the power...not as some think the agencies

OM

« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2016, 07:55 »
+1
I noticed that Jon Orringer posted a FB message thanking SS contributors for their help in weeding out the title spammers.

« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2016, 08:49 »
+3
In the current market its buyers who wield the power...not as some think the agencies
Isn't it always the end user who decides? Not consciously, perhaps, but simply by making spending decisions.
It's a curious fantasy among microstockers that proclaims they have the power because they control the supply. It's been shown time and time again that fragmentation of supply leaves the suppliers powerless.
We're just like farmers supplying supermarkets ... absolutely exactly like them. The supermarket competes with others over price, squeezes the farmers to beat the competition, and if the farmers aren't sqeezed hard enough to bring down prices the consumer goes to a cheaper supermarket.

« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2016, 09:51 »
+1
Its an interesting parallel in the UK some farmers have done very well by adopting a more vertical model with "farmers markets" or making their own end products. I'm sure for the more talented photographers this is more lucrative but don't think I'm dedicated/good enough. Also if you can create a restricted supply you can retain prices e.g Champagne, Melton Mowbary Pork pies etc.

« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2016, 10:40 »
0
Yes, same is on his twitter page too
https://twitter.com/jonoringer


Hope he take some strict action against such spammers.
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/Tamara.Z

« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2016, 12:13 »
0



Hope he take some strict action against such spammers.
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/Tamara.Z
Looks like he already has.  I just clicked on 3 of those imagesa and they are no longer availabe.

« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2016, 14:27 »
+2
Its an interesting parallel in the UK some farmers have done very well by adopting a more vertical model with "farmers markets" or making their own end products. I'm sure for the more talented photographers this is more lucrative but don't think I'm dedicated/good enough. Also if you can create a restricted supply you can retain prices e.g Champagne, Melton Mowbary Pork pies etc.

i don't think anyone is saying they are more talented, but asking for things to get back to norm
like what ss became #1 to most of us who chose to submit to the 7/10 entry criterion...
and to see there is no switch flipping once you hit that monthly average...
or see amazing garbage like title spamming getting approved while your proper standard stuff
is rejected for some strange reason like atilla used to do,etc..

we are not looking for some great miracle...
although the return of the $80, $28, $102 single earning ... would be wonderful...!!!

we're just looking to see things getting back to when Oringer was the sole proprietor with no
main shareholders' @ss to lick...


but perharps the last financial report meeting had some heads rolling when questions were being
asked...

or adobe did the trick to get ss to sit up...

whatever the reason,  ( i am sure the vultures have already all short sold and taken profit
to go elsewhere to suck blook)...
so let's hope we see a good 2017 start to get back to ss ...



« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2016, 14:29 »
+2
They could fire some of the reviewers or people who do contributor portfolio management. If I had a stock agency, and things like this happened for 6 months, I wouldn't be mad at the people who are abusing the system, I'd be mad I obviously hired the wrong and incompetent people. From the reviewers to the coders who couldn't identify spammy portfolios by writing a script in 30 minutes and the management who perhaps hasn't communicated the problem to the coders. In the end, I'd fire myself since I'm obviously a douche who can't run a company. But yeah, not happening. They wanted these spammy accounts so that they could pay out less royalties and "touch up" their Q3 results. :)



well put !


definitely... it has to be the reviewers ...
as how else can these spammers get past the front door???

other than someone inside letting them all in from the back door without any curatorship.

unless it's some major shareholders retard child
letting in their cousins cousins and best buddies..

« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2016, 14:38 »
+2
i don't know it this because of removing spammers or something else (search engine) but my new files finally have great sales


« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2016, 16:12 »
+7
Unless they algorithmically do something to stop it from happening, whether on initial submission or on edit, it will continue to happen. Once a cheater, always a cheater.

angelawaye

  • Eat, Sleep, Keyword. Repeat

« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2016, 16:15 »
+5
It is nice they are finally doing something. Only 4 days until the end of the month and it is still shocking to compare this year's November sales with last year's November sales. OUCH.

I'm still not uploading anything new though. I think they are still working on these spammers and it will take a couple more months until it is a "safe" again...


« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2016, 17:52 »
0
Its an interesting parallel in the UK some farmers have done very well by adopting a more vertical model with "farmers markets" or making their own end products. I'm sure for the more talented photographers this is more lucrative but don't think I'm dedicated/good enough. Also if you can create a restricted supply you can retain prices e.g Champagne, Melton Mowbary Pork pies etc.

i don't think anyone is saying they are more talented, but asking for things to get back to norm
like what ss became #1 to most of us who chose to submit to the 7/10 entry criterion...
and to see there is no switch flipping once you hit that monthly average...
or see amazing garbage like title spamming getting approved while your proper standard stuff
is rejected for some strange reason like atilla used to do,etc..

we are not looking for some great miracle...
although the return of the $80, $28, $102 single earning ... would be wonderful...!!!

we're just looking to see things getting back to when Oringer was the sole proprietor with no
main shareholders' @ss to lick...


but perharps the last financial report meeting had some heads rolling when questions were being
asked...

or adobe did the trick to get ss to sit up...

whatever the reason,  ( i am sure the vultures have already all short sold and taken profit
to go elsewhere to suck blook)...
so let's hope we see a good 2017 start to get back to ss ...
That wasn't really my point I was making a more general one that a mass market place is never going to be the place to sell the highest quality work in the long run  and am am merely being realistic when I say I'm not a great photographer and and even worse self publicist. If I was I would look at higher value outlets setting up my own site etc. I certainly agree though that SS is not performing as it was.

« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2016, 18:35 »
+6
Unless they algorithmically do something to stop it from happening, whether on initial submission or on edit, it will continue to happen. Once a cheater, always a cheater.

Exactly. Or if they would severely penalize the spammed images in the search the problem would take care of itself.

« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2016, 19:49 »
0
I really want a explanation from the company why several month nothing happens and the contributors were ignored.
To be honest I rather think its a waste of your energy if they did give an explanation you may well not believe it.  I may be too fatalist but I think to survive in this environment its best to focus on what you can control.

I believe that to focus on things you can control is always a good action maxim, no matter what environment. (Under the premise you know what you can control and whether it is purposeful.)
And I assume that you wanted to tell me that you do not expect a statement and if only an unsatisfactory. My expectation is the same.

But: I really want a explanation from the company why several month nothing happens and the contributors were ignored.
For what its worth my explanation is contributors were ignored but once buyers started complaining, and possibly defecting to the likes of Adobe something had to be done........


« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2016, 11:51 »
+1
This guy's port seems to be a live and kicking..... and spamming. As well as repeating words, he just pastes all his keywords into the title as well as the keywords box!

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/MIKHAIL+GRACHIKOV

« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2016, 16:00 »
0
Here's a portfolio to look out for:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/Malyshev+Maksim

He's got some good work, but the spammy titles has got to go. If you're on this board, please change it before you get kicked out by SS.

« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2016, 16:13 »
+1
Unless they algorithmically do something to stop it from happening, whether on initial submission or on edit, it will continue to happen. Once a cheater, always a cheater.

true!
they're like mice... eventually they get smarter and realise the cat is not as smart as they are..
and come back.

i don't know what you can do really.
maybe instead of putting their port here,

This guy's port seems to be a live and kicking..... and spamming. As well as repeating words, he just pastes all his keywords into the title as well as the keywords box!

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/MIKHAIL+GRACHIKOV
Here's a portfolio to look out for:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/Malyshev+Maksim

He's got some good work, but the spammy titles has got to go. If you're on this board, please change it before you get kicked out by SS.

... where nothing can be done about it...
maybe do it at Oringer's twitter site or wherever he has his own web address.
not bother with ss site because the frontline ppl will surely delete it as the dirty cock inside the henhouse

« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2016, 00:18 »
+2
Great SS started taking action against them. My sales at SS are decreasing constantly and I have already stop uploading to them as new contents are burred so quickly.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2016, 02:24 by Kamran »



 

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