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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2014, 10:35 »
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I think it's a great idea.

I do see some searches though where it's really clear why these images have never sold. I'm guessing it's particularly the case in relatively low volume keywords where there's not a ton of new stuff.

I'd love to post some examples, but I don't think that's an appropriate thing to do in this case - let's just say that if you were looking for fodder for those "crazy stock photo concepts" web sites, this would be a great way to find them :)


Uncle Pete

« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2014, 10:49 »
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I cannot see it. Maybe it is not visible for every user.


http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?gallery_id=######

You user number at the end where it says ######

« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2014, 11:43 »
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Good both for contributors (more downloads on overlooked images) and buyers (underused content).

ACS

« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2014, 11:54 »
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Very good idea.

Undiscovered files may be like a hidden treasury for the buyers I believe.

« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2014, 12:02 »
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+1 for Shutterstock :)

ruxpriencdiam

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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2014, 12:12 »
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It could backfire!

Think about it from a buyers perspective for a minute.

A buyer goes and looks at the chit you have and then uses WOM to spread it around that you do crap and have nothing good of any use to any of them and then they start to stay away from your port because you now have a bad rep from WOM from a new search???

It is possible.

« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2014, 12:23 »
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I have to say my downloads at SS this month are almost double previous months and this is a short month...could be related? When was this implemented?

Ron

« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2014, 12:24 »
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It could backfire!

Think about it from a buyers perspective for a minute.

A buyer goes and looks at the chit you have and then uses WOM to spread it around that you do crap and have nothing good of any use to any of them and then they start to stay away from your port because you now have a bad rep from WOM from a new search???

It is possible.
That might be true for your chit, but I have only 30% that havent sold, and 28% are great images that just never got to see daylight. I have fantastic images that never sold over simple 3 second illustrations that sell like gang busters.

EDIT: Please help me understand the down votes.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2014, 06:17 by Ron »

lisafx

« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2014, 12:55 »
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Excellent idea. The "be the first..." is a great 'added value' line too. Working as an art director I often clicked past pages and pages to avoid stuff that has been overused when designing something a bit more creative. This is a great reminder for those who haven't been smart enough to recognize this issue, and it might help less files to get dropped out of the system just for not getting lucky in time.

Very true. I would love to see this implemented on other sites too, particularly those that delete unsold images after a period of time.

« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2014, 17:31 »
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This way to push unsold content is better than Fotolias way to make such content cheaper. And it will be  more successful, I think. Well done, Shutterstock!

mlwinphoto

« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2014, 17:50 »
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It could backfire!

Think about it from a buyers perspective for a minute.

A buyer goes and looks at the chit you have and then uses WOM to spread it around that you do crap and have nothing good of any use to any of them and then they start to stay away from your port because you now have a bad rep from WOM from a new search???

It is possible.

Don't upload chit in the first place.  Your port is only as good as it's weakest content, or something like that.

Ron

« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2014, 17:59 »
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« Last Edit: February 27, 2014, 18:22 by Ron »

« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2014, 19:02 »
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It's helped my sales and seems like a good idea - a way to add value to the files and give those undiscovered gems a second chance.

« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2014, 19:35 »
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It could backfire!

Think about it from a buyers perspective for a minute.

A buyer goes and looks at the chit you have and then uses WOM to spread it around that you do crap and have nothing good of any use to any of them and then they start to stay away from your port because you now have a bad rep from WOM from a new search???

It is possible.

Don't upload chit in the first place.  Your port is only as good as it's weakest content, or something like that.

While I believe that uploading chit is not smart what defines chit? Who defines chit? That aside if one uploads chitless work, you cannot control the fact that chitless images generally go right to the back of the pack anyway. Chit or no chit, placement is by far more influential to what sells than the image being chitty.  Oh, and key word quality should be in there too as a key factor.

ShadySue

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« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2014, 19:41 »
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While I believe that uploading chit is not smart what defines chit? Who defines chit? That aside if one uploads chitless work, you cannot control the fact that chitless images generally go right to the back of the pack anyway. Chit or no chit, placement is by far more influential to what sells than the image being chitty.  Oh, and key word quality should be in there too as a key factor.
And spelling. I had no idea what rux was going on about a chit, which is something different altogether.
As I don't know what WOM is, I couldn't work out what written note you'd get which would be spread via WOM and backfire on you.

And FWIW, I think Undiscovered is a great idea, as there must be some more confident buyers like to see something which hasn't been used many times, possibly by direct rivals.

« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2014, 21:19 »
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I translated the comments with WOM = word of mouth and chit = excrement

My thoughts would be that buyers won't be looking at whose "chit" they see in a search (and that's what's most likely, not what contributors do and view their own portfolios) - the idea that they'd waste more time discussing "chit" with other buyers seems unlikely.

ShadySue

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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2014, 21:37 »
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I translated the comments with WOM = word of mouth and chit = excrement

My thoughts would be that buyers won't be looking at whose "chit" they see in a search (and that's what's most likely, not what contributors do and view their own portfolios) - the idea that they'd waste more time discussing "chit" with other buyers seems unlikely.

Oh, is that an American spelling?
I only know chit as a little handwritten note, though quite specific in usage. (I believe it's from Hindi.)

I agree totally. I don't think most buyers bother much about portfolios or discuss them with others, unless they like someone's unique style.


lisafx

« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2014, 23:18 »
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No, "chit" isn't any American spelling I'm familiar with.  I think it was an attempt to get past the censorship program, which would not have accepted the word s_h_i_t. 

« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2014, 04:09 »
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It works fine for me. I sold a dozen of old files yesterday. I like it!  :)

« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2014, 05:25 »
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After the first few days, I can state that the sales of of previously unsold images clearly have increased. I'm not sure, what's going happen with my good selling pics, but untill now there is no change.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2014, 06:16 by roede-orm »

« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2014, 06:05 »
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Good or bad, at least those guys(SS) are trying to improve the exposure of the unsold content. Hope it`s positive move.

ShadySue

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« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2014, 06:54 »
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No, "chit" isn't any American spelling I'm familiar with.  I think it was an attempt to get past the censorship program, which would not have accepted the word s_h_i_t.

Oh, I thought it accepted sh*t, which is the conventional 'spelling'.

In any case, I don't accept that files that haven't sold are rubbish. On any site, files just get swamped by their equivalent of Best Match on the day they're accepted, and never see the light of day again. Actually, a surprisingly high proportion of my recent sales on iS have been very-low-selling files from 2007/8. As these are mostly from trips, I don't have any updates, so that's fine by me. Also I've noticed that a good proportion of ELs are older files with fewer sales, which makes sense.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2014, 06:59 by ShadySue »

« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2014, 08:42 »
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No, "chit" isn't any American spelling I'm familiar with.  I think it was an attempt to get past the censorship program, which would not have accepted the word s_h_i_t.

That's how I was using the word. I know what Rux was really saying and it is the last word in your sentence. :P

« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2014, 09:43 »
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Last week I was wondering why I had several downloads of images that were never sold before.
So when you are right this explains it AND it seems that it works too... :D

It started Monday and you saw a change last week?

« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2014, 11:51 »
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It started Monday and you saw a change last week?

Didn't know it started monday. Seems that it was accidental then...


 

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