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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2018, 05:54 »
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Here is the definition of blame game

a situation in which one party blames others for something bad or unfortunate rather than attempting to seek a solution.


« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2018, 06:54 »
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It's obvious here that there are many (who are probably doing well) looking at life through SS tinted glasses. Sales have stopped dead for no reason for a few days THIS IS NOT NORMAL !!!!!!! THIS IS MANIPULATION OF THE ALGORITHMS.

« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2018, 08:12 »
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It's obvious here that there are many (who are probably doing well) looking at life through SS tinted glasses. Sales have stopped dead for no reason for a few days THIS IS NOT NORMAL !!!!!!! THIS IS MANIPULATION OF THE ALGORITHMS.
It may not be normal there are many explanations manipulation of algorithms is one possible one.  But I doubt anyone has the evidence to claim certainty. Your sales also increased hugely one month for "no reason" was that manipulation of algorithms? Anyway this argument has cycled many times so I doubt anyone will change their mind. To me you only have to look at the increase in content vs the increase in sales to see a simpler explanation.

« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2018, 08:13 »
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It's obvious here that there are many (who are probably doing well) looking at life through SS tinted glasses. Sales have stopped dead for no reason for a few days THIS IS NOT NORMAL !!!!!!! THIS IS MANIPULATION OF THE ALGORITHMS.

Well, according to you every site is "manipulating" the algorithms and have personal vendettas against you (Envato, Pond5, Shutterstock etc.). The only thing that repeats each month is your posts at every forum around the web.

I don't think anyone thinks that the algorithms don't change, of course they do! That is part of any site's operation - to maximize OVERALL sales, and to do that, they have to constantly tweak algorithms to see what works.

That does not, however, mean that they are "manipulating" your sales.

If you focused more on improving your work and SEO rather than trying to find reasons everyone is against you, I'm sure your sales would be better.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 08:15 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2018, 08:34 »
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There is nothing wrong with my work thank you very much. You also assume to know more about me than you think.

« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2018, 08:56 »
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There is nothing wrong with my work thank you very much. You also assume to know more about me than you think.

Everyone's work can ALWAYS be improved. That includes you, me, and everyone else who isn't the top stock producer in the world. And snapshots of broken bicycles will only get you so far...

I know you don't want to be "mainstream" and create what sells, but here's a tip: what sells is what is needed.  :)

And regarding SEO, that can definitely be much improved.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 09:00 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2018, 09:45 »
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It's obvious here that there are many (who are probably doing well) looking at life through SS tinted glasses. Sales have stopped dead for no reason for a few days THIS IS NOT NORMAL !!!!!!! THIS IS MANIPULATION OF THE ALGORITHMS.

Several things:
SS (probably) doesn't manipulate individual algorithms. However, they are frequently modifying it, which is understandable. Tbh, I would pay a lot to know how to be always on first position, as I would be able to earn even more money. Therefore, the algorithm remains secret, but time passing by, several criteria start to become obvious, thus leading SS to change it, even slightly. Furthermore, it is a good way to experiment parameters that could be more profitable. It lacks of transparency, but at least it prevents spam and algorithm bombing.

Seen from the point of view of someone who has been managing webadvertisement accounts, I don't see it shocking. Even on mid businesses, with several hundred sales a month, there were huge differences, day after day. Furthermore, there are business specifics you don't always understand. Coming back to SS, for instance, I have noticed over the past months that most of my sales will occur during the middle of the month. Knowing the fact that I have uploaded pictures of various topics during this time, I can't explain it, but I don't call this a trend, and, in some case, seasonality.

To summarize, I see as well pretty impressive stalls (-70% sales between the first and the second half of March, for instance), they are pretty stressful, but I don't see them as an issue, as long as the mid term and long term indicators remain positive.

One last thing: if there were a conspiracy I could believe in that could explain most of the irregularities, but that I haven't been able to prove, it's the theory that SS is trying to hide technical issues impacting the sales record adjusting the revenue afterwards with SOD's and other "adjustable" rates. Over the past months, I have noticed indeed that every drop in sales that was due to an official (or non official) issue on the website was followed by one or several SOD's of higher rates that I could not track. I have no proofs of it, maybe it's just my need for order, but it's not that impossible, given that I have done it in another field of webmarketing, working for a platform dealing with digital inventories.

« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2018, 09:59 »
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There is nothing wrong with my work thank you very much. You also assume to know more about me than you think.

any link of your work? I also don't know you.

« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2018, 10:08 »
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There is nothing wrong with my work thank you very much. You also assume to know more about me than you think.

Everyone's work can ALWAYS be improved. That includes you, me, and everyone else who isn't the top stock producer in the world. And snapshots of broken bicycles will only get you so far...

I know you don't want to be "mainstream" and create what sells, but here's a tip: what sells is what is needed.  :)

And regarding SEO, that can definitely be much improved.


I have no idea what  "SEO" means.

Why did you pick out the old bicycle shot when there are better examples of better stock images ?

« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2018, 10:13 »
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I have no idea what  "SEO" means.

Why did you pick out the old bicycle shot when there are better examples of better stock images ?

SEO means Search Engine Optimization = the way you keyword, write descriptions and titles.

That is the most important part, more important than quality, and should be a big part of the time spent on stock work.

To optimize sales, you need to thoroughly test each search engine and apply metadata accordingly. It is NOT the same on the different sites.

« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2018, 10:34 »
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I haven't the time to do this.  all the relevant keywords are there. Trust me.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 10:41 by Herg »

« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2018, 10:40 »
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I haven't the time to do this. Besides, all the relevant keywords are there. Trust me.

Yeah, it's not that simple.

No time to do this? Then don't complain about sales. SEO is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING when selling anything online.

You need to find out for each search engine:

"industry secrets"

And much more. I don't really care if you do this or not, it's just a bit tiring with the constant "everyone is against me" posts on each and every forum. Everyone is not against you. Only yourself by not doing 100% of what you can to maximize sales.

Just take the time you spend here, on the Pond5 forum, the Envato forum etc. and apply it to something productive.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2018, 01:50 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2018, 10:42 »
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They change the algorithms every 5 mins anyway so that would be time wasted.

« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2018, 10:43 »
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Only they don't... I have clips in roughly the same (page 1-2) positions for common search terms that have stayed like that for years. If they get sales, they stay.

Well, now you know what can be done at least. Best of luck!
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 11:05 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2018, 11:17 »
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Only they don't... I have clips in roughly the same (page 1-2) positions for common search terms that have stayed like that for years. If they get sales, they stay.

Well, now you know what can be done at least. Best of luck!

That list you made is impossible to cover. I think this is a wind up or you have a lot of time on your hands.

« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2018, 11:20 »
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Only they don't... I have clips in roughly the same (page 1-2) positions for common search terms that have stayed like that for years. If they get sales, they stay.

Well, now you know what can be done at least. Best of luck!

That list you made is impossible to cover. I think this is a wind up or you have a lot of time on your hands.

Impossible? Sure, I've spent quite a few hours on it, but impossible? I don't think so.

And yes, I do have quite a bit of time these days, because I have worked a lot to get regular sales and don't have to stress about creating new content all the time.

Isn't that the whole point of this type of job? To have a lot of free time once a big enough (and good enough) portfolio is up?
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 11:24 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2018, 12:14 »
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I can't possible find out all that criteria by searching every single file. If you did this with relative ease why not share the results and save us all the time ?


« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2018, 12:21 »
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I can't possible find out all that criteria by searching every single file. If you did this with relative ease why not share the results and save us all the time ?

Well, I have spent quite a few hours on it and I'm not that helpful (or dumb) to give it all away to the competition. Do the work. And keep it to yourself.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 12:27 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2018, 12:27 »
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Surely you have nothing to worry about the competition if you are confident in your work ? Simply bragging about it and pulling up the ladder isn't helpful to fellow members here. :-\

« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2018, 12:29 »
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Everyone has a lot to worry about from competition. I worry about it. As I said, SEO is more important than quality. Being overconfident in your work and spilling the recipe for success is one of the dumbest things you can do in a business with zero barrier to entry, and a sure way to decrease your sales.

Do the work instead of coming up with conspiracy theories all day long.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 12:37 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2018, 12:39 »
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No because it's impossible. How do you know you are not just lucky with your exposure ? Like I said, once all the keywords are there it's pretty much covered. I have no problem finding my work on all sites.

« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2018, 12:41 »
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I have no problem finding my work on all sites.

Perfect! Then you know that the customers find other assets that they prefer over yours when they search and it's the content you need to improve, not the SEO.

Or that the market simply isn't there for your content.

But I guess since you have perfect SEO (even though you didn't even know of the term SEO) and perfect content, the only possible reason for low sales must be a conspiracy from all sites (Envato, Pond5, Shutterstock etc.) to single YOU out and make sure you don't get the sales you so clearly deserve.

It's time to wake up.  :)
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 12:44 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2018, 12:48 »
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Nope because I earned a lot of sales in March. I will leave you to wallow in your smugness.

« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2018, 04:24 »
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Also, why so many other people suddenly experiencing an unusaly sudden drop in sales ? This thread for instance ? Again, this is abnormal and beyond our control.

« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2018, 05:43 »
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Sales are avg here.. nothing too much dropped and neither its on high


 

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