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« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2018, 13:50 »
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This Q-result every quarter, I'm beginning to think theyre cooking the books! after 14 years with this outfit I know people in every camp and I dont know ANYBODY who's doing any good or who really cares if the place is down or not??.

come on Paws whats  youre opinion youre good at this?
My opinion is as they are audited accounts and Oringer could go to prison for a very long time if they were fraudulent they are most likely correct. As has been said over and over again new supply far outstrips demand therefore most contributors will lose out. Its really that simple.

The supply otstripping the demand!  jeez we have known that for year now, nothing new!  no I dont buy that anymore theres got to be something else. before it was just some people, some camps crying and complaining NOW it almost everyone!

Wow. You mean all that crying and complaining that certain people were doing was actually about something real? I guess crossing fingers and wishing hard didnt make the problems go away after all. Its just easier to attack them rather than stand united against a company thats screwing you with your own property to make profits for themselves.

Supply is outstripping demand at Shutterstock because they made it so. I believe they opened the gates to anyone to desperately inflate their library and make as much money as they could for themselves before the stock photo market totally collapses. This is why sales are down everywhere:

newbielink:https://unsplash.com/ [nonactive]

Decent quality photos for completely free. Multiple sites are out there like this and they are growing fast. Web traffic stats show free sites getting constant high growth while most micro sites are falling. Shutterstock web traffic shows an increase but I'm sure thats the flood of new amateur contributor traffic and not paying customers.
Sites like Unsplash have convinced tons of naive photographers to give their portfolios away for free so they could stick the word free on the front page and generate mountains of traffic for themselves, starving out the existing market. This new trend does nothing but train consumers that our images have no value and that they DESERVE our images for free... even for commercial use. Why would they pay anything for images now?
There are tons of unaddressed legal issues at these sites that will create problems for them in the future such as the lack of releases but its pretty tough to compete with free in the minds of consumers. I believe the only course of action to take is to draw a line in the sand and that line is quality. Let the garbage images be free and the consumers will tire of it and will pay for quality again. Thats Shutterstocks mistake. They prioritize the garbage over the quality.

The ironic part is that all of this happened because contributors allowed it to. Its our property. Its our photos that make these sites even possible. Contributors chose to follow Shutterstocks poor choices and stick their head in the sand. What would happen to Shutterstock if contributors stood up to them and said no. What if contributors united together and opted out of sales on their portfolios in protest? They cant ignore their store literally shrinking. They cant ignore that loss of sales, especially under these conditions. Its our images that make all of this even possible.

Food for thought:
newbielink:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M_OZWtpokc [nonactive]
« Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 13:53 by JEDphoto »


« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2018, 16:49 »
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I am now getting reviews in about 30 hours, vs the 2 hours I was getting up to a week ago.  Still plenty fast. A year from now, I will not remember that it took an extra day at the front.  Not sure why people get so freaked out over minor delays in getting images up that will presumably be selling for years...?

OTOH, BigStock is my biggest problem. Not from delays, but from major bugs in their web submission.  If you select more than one image, then ONLY set the category, the buggy site changes EVERYTHING to match.  You end up with the same title, description, keywords. Everything!

They have known about this bug for at least 4 months, which is when tech support told me they knew about it and were "working to fix it."  They told me the workaround was to only submit one image at a time.

Yeah, right. I have roughly 1000 images to upload to them, and they want me to do one at a time because they are too sloppy to fix such an obvious and major bug in 4 months???  No, thank you.  BS simply hasn't gotten anything from me in that time, and from the looks of it, may never again. :(

« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2018, 23:13 »
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This Q-result every quarter, I'm beginning to think theyre cooking the books! after 14 years with this outfit I know people in every camp and I dont know ANYBODY who's doing any good or who really cares if the place is down or not??.

come on Paws whats  youre opinion youre good at this?
My opinion is as they are audited accounts and Oringer could go to prison for a very long time if they were fraudulent they are most likely correct. As has been said over and over again new supply far outstrips demand therefore most contributors will lose out. Its really that simple.

The supply otstripping the demand!  jeez we have known that for year now, nothing new!  no I dont buy that anymore theres got to be something else. before it was just some people, some camps crying and complaining NOW it almost everyone!

Wow. You mean all that crying and complaining that certain people were doing was actually about something real? I guess crossing fingers and wishing hard didnt make the problems go away after all. Its just easier to attack them rather than stand united against a company thats screwing you with your own property to make profits for themselves.

Supply is outstripping demand at Shutterstock because they made it so. I believe they opened the gates to anyone to desperately inflate their library and make as much money as they could for themselves before the stock photo market totally collapses. This is why sales are down everywhere:

https://unsplash.com/

Decent quality photos for completely free. Multiple sites are out there like this and they are growing fast. Web traffic stats show free sites getting constant high growth while most micro sites are falling. Shutterstock web traffic shows an increase but I'm sure thats the flood of new amateur contributor traffic and not paying customers.
Sites like Unsplash have convinced tons of naive photographers to give their portfolios away for free so they could stick the word free on the front page and generate mountains of traffic for themselves, starving out the existing market. This new trend does nothing but train consumers that our images have no value and that they DESERVE our images for free... even for commercial use. Why would they pay anything for images now?
There are tons of unaddressed legal issues at these sites that will create problems for them in the future such as the lack of releases but its pretty tough to compete with free in the minds of consumers. I believe the only course of action to take is to draw a line in the sand and that line is quality. Let the garbage images be free and the consumers will tire of it and will pay for quality again. Thats Shutterstocks mistake. They prioritize the garbage over the quality.

The ironic part is that all of this happened because contributors allowed it to. Its our property. Its our photos that make these sites even possible. Contributors chose to follow Shutterstocks poor choices and stick their head in the sand. What would happen to Shutterstock if contributors stood up to them and said no. What if contributors united together and opted out of sales on their portfolios in protest? They cant ignore their store literally shrinking. They cant ignore that loss of sales, especially under these conditions. Its our images that make all of this even possible.

Food for thought:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M_OZWtpokc

This what is mentioned by Unsplash:

"We do not actively encourage professional photographers to join and upload all of their photos. Were designers, developers and photographers ourselves, and we know that giving everything away isnt a sustainable way to make a living from your profession."

I hope this answers to why people are submitting to SS or other paid platforms and not to the free ones.

« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2018, 08:42 »
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This Q-result every quarter, I'm beginning to think theyre cooking the books! after 14 years with this outfit I know people in every camp and I dont know ANYBODY who's doing any good or who really cares if the place is down or not??.

come on Paws whats  youre opinion youre good at this?
My opinion is as they are audited accounts and Oringer could go to prison for a very long time if they were fraudulent they are most likely correct. As has been said over and over again new supply far outstrips demand therefore most contributors will lose out. Its really that simple.

The supply otstripping the demand!  jeez we have known that for year now, nothing new!  no I dont buy that anymore theres got to be something else. before it was just some people, some camps crying and complaining NOW it almost everyone!

Wow. You mean all that crying and complaining that certain people were doing was actually about something real? I guess crossing fingers and wishing hard didnt make the problems go away after all. Its just easier to attack them rather than stand united against a company thats screwing you with your own property to make profits for themselves.

Supply is outstripping demand at Shutterstock because they made it so. I believe they opened the gates to anyone to desperately inflate their library and make as much money as they could for themselves before the stock photo market totally collapses. This is why sales are down everywhere:

https://unsplash.com/

Decent quality photos for completely free. Multiple sites are out there like this and they are growing fast. Web traffic stats show free sites getting constant high growth while most micro sites are falling. Shutterstock web traffic shows an increase but I'm sure thats the flood of new amateur contributor traffic and not paying customers.
Sites like Unsplash have convinced tons of naive photographers to give their portfolios away for free so they could stick the word free on the front page and generate mountains of traffic for themselves, starving out the existing market. This new trend does nothing but train consumers that our images have no value and that they DESERVE our images for free... even for commercial use. Why would they pay anything for images now?
There are tons of unaddressed legal issues at these sites that will create problems for them in the future such as the lack of releases but its pretty tough to compete with free in the minds of consumers. I believe the only course of action to take is to draw a line in the sand and that line is quality. Let the garbage images be free and the consumers will tire of it and will pay for quality again. Thats Shutterstocks mistake. They prioritize the garbage over the quality.

The ironic part is that all of this happened because contributors allowed it to. Its our property. Its our photos that make these sites even possible. Contributors chose to follow Shutterstocks poor choices and stick their head in the sand. What would happen to Shutterstock if contributors stood up to them and said no. What if contributors united together and opted out of sales on their portfolios in protest? They cant ignore their store literally shrinking. They cant ignore that loss of sales, especially under these conditions. Its our images that make all of this even possible.

Food for thought:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M_OZWtpokc
Not going to happen is it though?....even the people who cry and complain the loudest haven't withdrawn their images. Pointing out the simple laws of supply and demand is not really attacking people.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2018, 08:49 by Pauws99 »

« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2018, 01:32 »
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SS is down In Los Angelas again Sat Night PST 11:31

« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2018, 01:45 »
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Looks like the contributor side is down. Customer side is fine.

« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2018, 01:45 »
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I don't care

« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2018, 15:20 »
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Again: The websites of Shutterstock and Bigstock do not work (for contributors and buyers), at least not from the Netherlands.

« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2018, 15:21 »
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Looks like the contributor side is down. Customer side is fine.

No the customer site is showing Error code: 500 too

Maybe the server cable caught fire again  ::)

« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2018, 15:25 »
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Again: The websites of Shutterstock and Bigstock do not work (for contributors and buyers), at least not from the Netherlands.

Yes, I can't get consistent loading of my rejected files, for instance.

« Reply #60 on: August 28, 2018, 16:59 »
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Couldn't sign on to BS today, but it's working again.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2018, 17:02 by HughStoneIan »

« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2018, 12:13 »
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Looks like SS has broken yet again.  Contributor side anyway.
Dashboard broken, earnings broken, app broken.

« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2018, 12:13 »
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Yes, its broken.

« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2018, 12:19 »
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..and its not even Sunday this time!

« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2018, 12:27 »
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Customer side is dead too.  Search works but nobody can go into an image or download anything.
People already complaining on their official FB.

Wonder what the excuse will be this time?

« Reply #65 on: August 29, 2018, 14:12 »
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Bad situation but shutterstock dont want this too they also lost money. Bad Code, they have to do something. Look Like istockphoto bug.


 

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