Trouble with initial acceptance at SS

michealo

« on: January 01, 2008, 08:44 »

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I have submitted 4 times. First time 4 of 10 were accepted so I resubmitted those 4 plus 6 new new ones. Then some of the initial 4 were rejected. This has happened each time. I have over 10 that were accepted at one stage subsequently not to be. It seems a bit bizarre and random. Most of the images have been accepted by FT, IS and DT. Any thoughts ? Any suggestions?


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LanaLanglois

« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2008, 11:15 »

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Because there is a wainting time before resubmitting, I believe it is not a good idea to resubmit same images. I'm sure you do improve yourself while waiting the resubmission date... so your most recent images are probably your bests ! ;-)

Except for some occasional mistakes that can occur (they are only humans, just like us!), I believe most reviews at SS are similar and enough right. If the acceptance/refusal are always different for some images, maybe your images are sitting just at their acceptable limits?! It is hard to say without seeing it, and without knowing the rejection reasons you got. Also, they are told more "capricious" for the first ten.

Also, each stock sites have their own criteria. It is hard to create photos that please totaly to many different sites. I don't know what subject you are usually shooting, but I believe human, food and business images will help alot to be accepted at SS first ten. Avoid flowers, landscape and animals; And avoid noise, they don't tolerate any noise.


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ale1969

« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2008, 11:45 »

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Quote from: LanaLanglois on January 01, 2008, 11:15

And avoid noise, they don't tolerate any noise.

Out of the same frustrating experience I can assure that when people here say "no noise" they really mean no noise for SS. To easily see if your image is noisy just have a look at the blue channel where most of it lays.
Shot to the right, use some noise removal plugins and downsize your images to the minimum 4MP.
I managed to get in with my second trial following these advices from people of this forum and they were * right (10 out 10 accepted against 7 refused in my first trial). Btw, the 7 refused were accepted by other "picky" sites like IS or DT.


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michealo

« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2008, 12:57 »

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"downsize your images to the minimum 4MP" that is a great tip, I will give that a go


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TreeOfLife

« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2008, 09:15 »

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When I first submitted to SS, only 6 were accepted (needed 7).

I then asked the question on the SS forum what I should do for my next try- resubmit the 6 that got accepted plus 4 new ones, or submit 10 new ones. I got a reply from a SS reviewer that said to submit 10 new ones. That's what I did, and 7 got accepted. I then went back and resubmitted the ones from the first batch that were "accepted," and wouldn't you know, some of them got rejected the second time around. Oh well.


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JerryL5

« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2008, 10:26 »

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Remember SS has a critique section on it's forums. You can show your work there before uploading for opinions/suggestions.


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a.k.a.-tom

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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2008, 20:37 »

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....man... I think I got shot down by SS 3 times before I got on... I know it was at least twice....
Don't give up. Keep plugging away at it!! Cool

=tom


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mwp1969

« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2008, 17:37 »

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Currently "Up for Rejection ..." in another couple of weeks ...

The Quote from the movie "Shawshank Redemption"

Mark


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michealo

« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2008, 06:26 »

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Finally got in on attempt number 5, and already 2 sales on a portfolio of 7 images ...


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snurder

« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2008, 07:32 »

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Congrats. Remember that SS is the eating machine that must be fed on a consistent basis. You will like it there.


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PixelsAway

« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2008, 07:46 »

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I needed 4 attempts to get accepted by SS:
http://www.pixelsaway.com/C911796005/E20080308090659/index.html
Marek


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Smiling Jack

« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2008, 09:01 »

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Hi
My experience with SS is kinda difference from most. Got accepted the first try(9out of 10). Then they rejected every thing since. Must have slipped in under their radar.
Smiling Jack


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contrastaddict

« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2008, 21:20 »

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I've been rejected twice now, lots of poor composition and not commercial value. Can you submit pictures of people in the first 10?


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oboy

« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 09:59 »

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Here are my rejections of my 4th try:

Image 1
Composition--Limited commercial value due to framing,
cropping, and/or composition.
Poor Lighting--Poor or uneven lighting, or shadows. White balance may
be incorrect.

Image 2
Composition--Limited commercial value due to framing,
cropping, and/or composition.
Limited Commercial Value--We do not need this image at this time

Image 3
Composition--Limited commercial value due to framing,
cropping, and/or composition.

Image 4
mark as illustration

Image 5
mark as illustration

The reason the fractals had the keyword illustration, because another
agency ask for fractals to be marked as illustration. The other three
images had no complains in previous evaluation from Shutterstock.
It can be so frustrating sometimes.


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Pixart

« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008, 10:26 »

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Quote from: contrastaddict on April 20, 2008, 21:20

I've been rejected twice now, lots of poor composition and not commercial value. Can you submit pictures of people in the first 10?

Oh, yes. Do (if you have MR). The seem to be somewhat more lenient if a person is in the photograph. My second ap was mostly people and 10 were approved.


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leaf

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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2008, 10:33 »

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your links are messed up. if you fix them we can perhaps give you some feedback.


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oboy

« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2008, 10:53 »

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Not sure what happened, but I fixed them and they are working now.


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CofkoCof

« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2008, 11:21 »

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For fractals you would just need to tick the illustration box, I think they would get accepted with that.


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fotoKmyst

« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2008, 14:59 »

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is SS so important that you would put up with waiting for 30 days?
i'm not even sure i 'd consider that an option.
i'd rather go elsewhere. like who 's dying to get into SS???

not me? Grin

as if the others are not just as good, if not better.

we all heard of numero uno getting too big for their shoes.
the only way from numero uno is down.
for that reason, i prefer to stay with the other of the big 6
BECAUSE they seem to want your photos.

it takes two to do business. Roll Eyes


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Waldo4

« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2008, 15:10 »

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Quote from: fotoKmyst on April 25, 2008, 14:59

is SS so important that you would put up with waiting for 30 days?
i'm not even sure i 'd consider that an option.
i'd rather go elsewhere. like who 's dying to get into SS???

not me? Grin

'Cept that if you like making money in this buisiness, especially with a less established portfolio, SS is your friend. I can see, given a while to mature, my port on IS and DT will probably overtake SS in total monthly earnings. But until I've got several hundred files approved at each and have been around for several months or years for some files to get up there in the download rakings, SS is kicking their butt in earnings, hands down. I'll have reached at least 2 or 3 payouts at SS before I get my first elsewhere.


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fotoKmyst

« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2008, 15:16 »

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Quote from: Waldo4 on April 25, 2008, 15:10

ha! good point! thks waldo.

i guess in my case, stock is only something i do aside from regular photo assignments, so it's not to pay the rent. so it probably a pain rather than a necessity for me to wait in line at the SS 30 day hyperqueque Grin

cheers again for the insight ! Cool


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Waldo4

« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2008, 15:24 »

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Quote from: fotoKmyst on April 25, 2008, 15:16

Quote from: Waldo4 on April 25, 2008, 15:10

cheers again for the insight ! Cool

Hey, this is just a means of making petty cash to buy some new equipment for me, maybe someday it will be something greater (highly doubt that it could ever get even close to replacing my actual salary), but if I tried to live off my stock earnings I would have to sell the van that I was living in down by the river Wink


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oboy

« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2008, 21:30 »

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Thank you for all your comments and tips. Well, in thirty days there is another try.


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Roadrunner

« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2008, 14:56 »

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I thought I broke a record! I got rejected 8 times, and they even stopped giving me reasons? Shocked

Do you guys and gals think I'm a marked man? The only feedback I get via e-mail is "Though some of your images meet our standards, you have not supplied the required 7 acceptable images." Is anyone else getting that eedback as a reply?

I have been trying to get on that site for two years, guess I need a little practice. Perhaps I should just be happy with iS and DT.

Of course I am tempted to try 10 new images shrunk down from 12 MP to 4 MP. Will that really help?


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Dreamframer

« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2008, 10:02 »

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I was accepted third time. They are extremely picky at this first batch, but after it...everything goes smooth

....sales too. ALWAYS post your images in their forum, correct them and post them again, and again, and again until you decide to send them to reviewers. I think that's a key to success. I did like this. Some of important people are members of their forum. They will recognize your effort.


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