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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: melastmohican on May 16, 2008, 17:23

Title: Your keywords must directly relate to the image...
Post by: melastmohican on May 16, 2008, 17:23
What is wrong with them?

Rosa, Tea, beautiful, beauty, bouquet, bunch, closeup, flower, flowering, garden, genus, love, petal, pink, plant, red, romantic, rose, shrub, valentine

(http://upload3.shutterstock.com/uploads/thumb_large/56679/56679,1210857524,3.jpg)
(http://upload3.shutterstock.com/uploads/thumb_large/56679/56679,1210857625,3.jpg)
(http://upload3.shutterstock.com/uploads/thumb_large/56679/56679,1210858759,4.jpg)
(http://upload3.shutterstock.com/uploads/thumb_large/56679/56679,1210852869,1.jpg)
(http://upload3.shutterstock.com/uploads/thumb_large/56679/56679,1210853507,1.jpg)
(http://upload3.shutterstock.com/uploads/thumb_large/56679/56679,1210854021,1.jpg)
(http://upload3.shutterstock.com/uploads/thumb_large/56679/56679,1210854561,1.jpg)

Do they expect that I will have individual set of tags for every picture?
Title: Re: Your keywords must directly relate to the image...
Post by: icefront on May 16, 2008, 17:52
Rosa - rose
Tea - there is no tea
bouquet, bunch - everywhere is only one flower
shrub - bush may be better?

Also it's good to include the latin name...
Title: Re: Your keywords must directly relate to the image...
Post by: melastmohican on May 16, 2008, 19:10
Explanation (shall I also send to to reviewer?)

Rosa is Latin name for genus and rose is common name
Tea rose is a type of rose
Rose is a flowering shrub and also name of the flower of this shrub
Buoquet or bunch - right I did not have more than one on this photo but I am tagging all pictures with roses with the same set.
Title: Re: Your keywords must directly relate to the image...
Post by: hatman12 on May 16, 2008, 20:34
What makes you think it is okay to have pink AND red as keywords for every picture regardless of the actual color of each rose?  Do you think Shutterstock should accept 'pink' as a keyword for a picture of a red rose?

Also, these are roses growing in a garden - the words bouquet, love, romantic etc do not apply.

Shutterstock are correct to reject your pictures.
Title: Re: Your keywords must directly relate to the image...
Post by: PaulieWalnuts on May 16, 2008, 20:43
What's wrong with them? You're kidding right?

If I'm a buyer that does a search for "red rose" and over 70% of the roses are not red, I wouldn't be happy. In fact I would probably go use another site that I don't need to weed through tons of irrelevant BS to find what I need which is why they rejected your stuff. They should continue to reject stuff like this until you decide to start keywording properly.

It's not that you don't know how to, it's that you feel it would take too long to describe each image properly, right?
Title: Re: Your keywords must directly relate to the image...
Post by: snurder on May 17, 2008, 01:25
In my opinion, in no way do these flower pics relate to Valentine. Cut one, put a ribbon on it, light it properly, and shoot in studio or equivalent. Then maybe I'll buy the valentine keyword.
Title: Re: Your keywords must directly relate to the image...
Post by: rjmiz on May 17, 2008, 04:39
All the keywords in question are acceptable by my standards. Every single one.
The images themselves? Kinda redundant if you ask me. One white and one red would be enough.

Although they may be of different species, from a designer point the minor changes mean nothing.
A rose is a rose, is a rose. They are all frontal shots, all eye level, all perfectly centered in the frame.
REDUNDANT any one of them could be plugged into a design and not make any difference in the design.

Cranky MIZ

Title: Re: Your keywords must directly relate to the image...
Post by: lisafx on May 17, 2008, 09:29
... I am tagging all pictures with roses with the same set.

Well, basically you aren't supposed to do that.  It's called keyword spamming and every site frowns on it.

Each image is supposed to be keyworded individually.  It's fine to cut and paste, but only as a starting point.  The irrelevant words have to be removed from the images they don't apply to, and relevant ones unique to that image should be added. 

FYI, if you want to use a compound word like Tea Rose, it's better to use tea-rose, so that the words are connected in the search, rather than separate, where tea has no relevance whatsoever.

I get the feeling from your post that you aren't really asking for suggestions, but more venting about the rejections.    Fine for getting out your frustrations, but if you are serious about getting images accepted you should pay attention to the advice in this thread because it is dead accurate. 

Title: Re: Your keywords must directly relate to the image...
Post by: lathspell on May 17, 2008, 10:52
Tea rose is a type of rose

In this case please use

"tea rose", rose

(mind the quotes!) instead of just

tea, rose

This marks "tea rose" as a phrase so the picture doesn't come up in a search for "tea" while the picture can still be found in a search for "rose".
Title: Re: Your keywords must directly relate to the image...
Post by: leaf on May 21, 2008, 04:34
What is wrong with them?

Rosa, Tea, beautiful, beauty, bouquet, bunch, closeup, flower, flowering, garden, genus, love, petal, pink, plant, red, romantic, rose, shrub, valentine
Do they expect that I will have individual set of tags for every picture?

yes they do.
Every picture that is different in any case.

If the picture is of the same object but from a different angle the two image can share the same keywords, but if the image is of something different it should not contain the same keywords - unless all the keywords apply to the second image just as well.